Dying at the MacDonald and Campbell feud.
YES! That's not at all where I expected that scene to end up, but it was brilliantly absurd.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 27 April 2015 04:28 (nine years ago) link
The end seemed slightly unrealistic to me. If I'd just been informed my company had been absorbed and we'd be moving to a new office, I'd have a million questions.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 27 April 2015 04:30 (nine years ago) link
(xposts) That was the punchline to the buyout, though, Cutler voting yes and sheepishly saying "It's a lot of money." I don't remember a word after that--maybe I missed something.
Agree the ending has an unreal quality to it, but thematically, there may be something there. It felt like the world that's so important to these five people is losing its grip on everyone else...although Meredith certainly didn't behave that way.
― clemenza, Monday, 27 April 2015 04:49 (nine years ago) link
Undoubted significance that someone will uncover tomorrow: the reappearance, during Peggy and Stan's big scene, of "Stranger on the Shore." (Maybe it was used on one of the episodes concerning Peggy's pregnancy?)
― clemenza, Monday, 27 April 2015 05:03 (nine years ago) link
Checked it out, and yes--it goes back to "Meditations in an Emergency," which ended season 2 and where Peggy told Pete that she'd had his child and given it away.
― clemenza, Monday, 27 April 2015 05:11 (nine years ago) link
Good catch.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 27 April 2015 05:15 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/qaRE8pt.png
Cryptic tweet from IRL McCann.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 27 April 2015 05:54 (nine years ago) link
Diana is Ted Chaough's new girlfriend
― tayto fan (Michael B), Monday, 27 April 2015 13:15 (nine years ago) link
I said that as well, though I don't believe it, just thought it would be funny.
I did decide that Ted is basically anti-Don, or bizarro world Don. He wants and gets exactly the opposite of Don. He slept with Peggy. He went to California. Then he doesn't want to go to California. He's satisfied with the pharmaceutical account. There was more to that I thought about last night but now I've forgotten.
― dan selzer, Monday, 27 April 2015 14:00 (nine years ago) link
Sayonara, my friend! Enjoy the rest of your miserable life.
― ultimate american sock (mh), Monday, 27 April 2015 14:22 (nine years ago) link
Speaking of circles 'n' cycles (the California subsidiary office did seem like a good idea at the time; never did quite understand how they avoided that no-compete clause when outright splitting from the Brits), Betty and Glenn's farewell scene perfectly matched her best moment ever, sweetly dissuading the younger Glenn, way back when. He now reveals himself to feel as lost--trying to re-orient by her light--as in the first scene, despite all his wised-up confidence and advice to Sally in the years betwee. Not a fake confidence or wising-up, but his system has broken down, in confused and traumatic times, the burnt cusp of the 60s and 70s, as some things just get even worse (Sally reminds him that he was in tears after Kent State, for instance). Yes, they were standing still in profile, with no distractions; it worked.Struck by how much of last night's ep was about women being gratuitously reminded of limited options.
― dow, Monday, 27 April 2015 14:56 (nine years ago) link
Maybe Draper could teach a New School course on advertising: analysis, expose, how-to---students can take it as they please, though McCann wouldn't be pleased. Maybe, like I always figured, he'll go to California anyway. Teach or do something just beyond the no-compete bit (publicity, artists' agent? He's got contacts out there).
― dow, Monday, 27 April 2015 15:15 (nine years ago) link
He'll kill Harry Crane and assume his identity.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 27 April 2015 15:16 (nine years ago) link
I enjoyed the only Harry footage with him in the background being an irritant on the phone
― ultimate american sock (mh), Monday, 27 April 2015 15:50 (nine years ago) link
Harry was also in the big meeting at the end, impotently telling people "This is good news!"
― Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 27 April 2015 18:35 (nine years ago) link
two hilarious scenes in this - the pete/macdonald feud, which reminded me a bit of anchorman. and duck phoning up don - ludicrous.
pretty great ep, i loved the scene with roger and don at the bar.
also i dunno if it was meant to be funny, but the mccann guy saying the names of the brands was kind of strange, esp the way he pronounced "coca-cola".
― bureau belfast model (LocalGarda), Monday, 27 April 2015 18:38 (nine years ago) link
that wasn't duck
― polyphonic, Monday, 27 April 2015 18:42 (nine years ago) link
Don on the phone in his empty apartmentDon deciding California office is empty and trying to rally the troopsDon in defeat looking for somewhere to go and finding nothing and no one
― ultimate american sock (mh), Monday, 27 April 2015 18:42 (nine years ago) link
yeah that was Lou Avery, the great cartoonist
― ultimate american sock (mh), Monday, 27 April 2015 18:43 (nine years ago) link
sorry my bad - i can't remember what happened to duck
― bureau belfast model (LocalGarda), Monday, 27 April 2015 18:47 (nine years ago) link
last seen providin the dirt on Bob Benson to Pete
― Οὖτις, Monday, 27 April 2015 18:47 (nine years ago) link
cracking episode. so many call-back moments; Pete and Peggy on the couch just like at the end of Season 2, Don and Roger in the bar together in the Season 1-3 style etc.
particularly great direction i thought too this week (from Jared 'Lane' Harris).
― piscesx, Monday, 27 April 2015 18:48 (nine years ago) link
am really gonna miss these characters when they're gone.
― bureau belfast model (LocalGarda), Monday, 27 April 2015 18:50 (nine years ago) link
yeah man, big time.
― piscesx, Monday, 27 April 2015 18:51 (nine years ago) link
it was v relieving after the first two episodes - which were by no means bad but meandered even more than usual mad men style at times - to have last week and last night be certified great installments. especially last night.
"peter, you can't punch everybody"
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 27 April 2015 18:52 (nine years ago) link
sorry my bad - i can't remember what happened to duck― bureau belfast model (LocalGarda), Monday, April 27, 2015 7:47 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― bureau belfast model (LocalGarda), Monday, April 27, 2015 7:47 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
You're quacking up.
― i blow goat farts, aka garts for a living (waterface), Monday, 27 April 2015 18:52 (nine years ago) link
Peggy getting her moments to introspect and interact in uncharacteristic ways
her interaction with children is so awkward
― ultimate american sock (mh), Monday, 27 April 2015 18:55 (nine years ago) link
"THE KING ORDERED IT!"
― Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 27 April 2015 19:00 (nine years ago) link
waddle i do
― bureau belfast model (LocalGarda), Monday, 27 April 2015 19:02 (nine years ago) link
not much 'rock' / 70s type music on the last few episodes i notice.
― piscesx, Monday, 27 April 2015 19:03 (nine years ago) link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_Glencoe
― polyphonic, Monday, 27 April 2015 19:06 (nine years ago) link
They're part of the establishment now and not really hip to the culture anymore. The core group of SC&P is bound for management and divorced several levels from creative. No one knows what the youth are into, and if they do, it's a role relegated to the entry level.
― ultimate american sock (mh), Monday, 27 April 2015 19:08 (nine years ago) link
xp the private school guy being super-influenced by historical meaning of surnames and thinking it has relevance to life in NY in the 1970s is so completely foreign to my understanding of human relations
― ultimate american sock (mh), Monday, 27 April 2015 19:09 (nine years ago) link
urgh Ken though.. what became of him.
― piscesx, Monday, 27 April 2015 19:10 (nine years ago) link
http://i.onionstatic.com/avclub/5413/96/original/432.jpg
― piscesx, Monday, 27 April 2015 19:12 (nine years ago) link
lots of stan the stallion in this episode -- is this leading to something or they just want to feature stan?
― Florianne Fracke (La Lechera), Monday, 27 April 2015 19:13 (nine years ago) link
Peggy telling Stan about having to give up her kid drove me to tears. Also, it occurred to me then that Stan:Peggy :: Peggy:Don
― Roz, Monday, 27 April 2015 19:51 (nine years ago) link
That scene where all of the board were standing there with whiskey in hand after learning from Roger about the consolidation made me think of "I am the man who drinks at work"
― ultimate american sock (mh), Monday, 27 April 2015 19:52 (nine years ago) link
I'm shaken by how bad the seventies have been to Ken so far.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 April 2015 20:29 (nine years ago) link
Two people, Lou and Ken, got to give Don and/or SCP the middle finger last night. Neither of them is particularly likeable. (I guess Ken was early on.) Maybe that'll be the last two episodes, one aggrieved party after another exacting his/her revenge on Don/SCP.
― clemenza, Monday, 27 April 2015 20:36 (nine years ago) link
I really liked the scene with Peggy and the headhunter. Felt like her finally getting the respect she's due, and his advice was nicely straightforward. (It's also a sign of how effective the show's oppressive sexism is that I'm glad for her or any of the women to get through a scene without a guy hitting on them.)
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 27 April 2015 20:37 (nine years ago) link
McCann Erickson in 1971:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ib-Qiyklq-Q
― dan selzer, Monday, 27 April 2015 20:48 (nine years ago) link
Hadn't thought about it, but I could actually see that turning up in the last couple of episodes. I'd rather have CCR, but if it happens, I'd be okay with that.
― clemenza, Monday, 27 April 2015 20:51 (nine years ago) link
one aggrieved party after another exacting his/her revenge on Don/SCP
though what was funny about lou doing it was that it was a monumental moment for him while don hovered between confusion and indifference.
clan solidarity with pete, one eeeensy weensy massacre and the world holds it against you forever. (also, a very rare example of pete delivering rather than being on the receiving end of a punch.)
― cis-het shitlord (Merdeyeux), Monday, 27 April 2015 20:54 (nine years ago) link
last scene is homeless don draper clutching rotgut in a brown paper bag looking at the 1984 Ridley Scott Mac commercial through an electronics store window
― ultimate american sock (mh), Monday, 27 April 2015 21:05 (nine years ago) link
series ends with Don marrying a pregnant Meredith + moving to Malibu to the tune of "Big Yellow Taxi"
― Οὖτις, Monday, 27 April 2015 21:07 (nine years ago) link
the children of Bert Parks and Coca Cola.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 April 2015 21:10 (nine years ago) link
would be ok with either of those tbh xps
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 27 April 2015 21:15 (nine years ago) link
Only thing I didn't get/only thing I didn't think I got: Campbell vs. MacDonald punch-out. ???
― dow, Monday, 27 April 2015 21:18 (nine years ago) link
I know about the ancient massacre etc, but why this bit here?