MAD MEN on AMC - Seasons 7(a) & & 7(b)

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Wondered about Tammy drawing a man with a moustache - a metajoke about facial hair becoming ubiquitous or a particular man she was seeing?

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 27 April 2015 23:09 (nine years ago) link

duh, particular man TRUDY was seeing

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 27 April 2015 23:09 (nine years ago) link

Poor Trudy.(update: good call, SLB, hope Trudy's got somebody.) Always liked her, but she seems to be one of those characters just floating around in the background, underemployed by the writers, and altogether, I guess.
Maybe Pete will get a call from Rory, who got her memory back--electroshock wouldn't affect her as much as they both thought, not in 1970, unless she got into the clutches of that guy at McGill, who tried to blast his patients back to infancy, and rebuild their personalities (forgot his name, for some reason---but he was the president of the American Psychological Association and the World Psychological Association). Of course, both characters were depressive, but that was part of their bonding.

Come to think of it, this would prob be too damn sweet for MM, since the actor who plays Pete and the actress who played Rory are married.

dow, Monday, 27 April 2015 23:20 (nine years ago) link

Just to clarify, wasn't questioning Trudy's exasperation--rather my ability to hear correctly.

clemenza, Monday, 27 April 2015 23:50 (nine years ago) link

I feel like Trudy was genuinely annoyed but it was also a little bit of a humblebrag.

ultimate american sock (mh), Tuesday, 28 April 2015 00:49 (nine years ago) link

THE KING ORDERED IT!

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 28 April 2015 11:42 (nine years ago) link

"Always liked her, but she seems to be one of those characters just floating around in the background, underemployed by the writers, and altogether, I guess."

I believe issue is Allison Brie has Community conflicts which preclude her being used in Mad Men with any consistency.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 28 April 2015 12:11 (nine years ago) link

sounds like they need to give community to sterling cooper west

bureau belfast model (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 28 April 2015 12:25 (nine years ago) link

I'm noticing a move away from cocktails to beer this season. They're all getting on, I suppose.

tayto fan (Michael B), Tuesday, 28 April 2015 12:27 (nine years ago) link

"I feel like Trudy was genuinely annoyed but it was also a little bit of a humblebrag"

She also points out that she's just a few years from being ignored altogether by the same men. She's pretty astute.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 28 April 2015 12:30 (nine years ago) link

xpost Hobart suggested they all crack open champagne, so getting beer instead was a kind of passive-aggressive spite move

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 28 April 2015 12:41 (nine years ago) link

A friend and I had an idea for some writing...Can someone clarify where exactly they are on the timeline right now? Is it mid-1970, late '70, or are they into '71 yet?

clemenza, Tuesday, 28 April 2015 13:47 (nine years ago) link

"humblebrag": seems like a genuine source of frustration, and while she might possibly be attracted to some of the guys making passes, still they're all "husbands," or those are the ones she mentions, of course Pete was a husband, not a good advertisement for the status, and she's being invited to be the cheater or cheatee, having been the cheated-on, and doesn't feel good about that. Plus, there are so many of these guys: the sheer frequency of having to deal is an annoyance in itself (prob gets bits of attitude from wives too).
Also, she's conditioned to think of herself in terms of attractiveness, and she sees how it is for older women, also conditioning makes it come out like she's a poor little orphan princess (and she was raised as a princess of industry, pretty sane and adaptable considering). But she has to say all this to somebody, she would like Pete to commiserate/have *some* clue, and maybe a bit of a reproach for casting her adrift (also maybe "You lost a good thing," understandably so).
He should have stayed, and these upper-class bullshit-damaged waifs could have made their way through the forest together.

dow, Tuesday, 28 April 2015 14:05 (nine years ago) link

very otm, thanks dow

ultimate american sock (mh), Tuesday, 28 April 2015 14:19 (nine years ago) link

season started in April 1970, so it's probably around July now?

Number None, Tuesday, 28 April 2015 14:53 (nine years ago) link

I thought Pete/Trudy story echoed the main Sterling Cooper story in that both were about trying to repeat what has worked in the past, with little success. What made the private-school thing funny was that it seemed like it was at first about how the family name doesn't mean as much anymore, with the move toward merit-based achievement tests and so forth, but then the twist was that it still carried a lot of weight ... to an absurd degree.

jaymc, Tuesday, 28 April 2015 15:11 (nine years ago) link

Don's fabled powers of persuasion utterly failing him twice in one episode was a marvel to behold. he's officially a relic now, prospects are grim

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 28 April 2015 20:48 (nine years ago) link

yep

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 28 April 2015 21:10 (nine years ago) link

Draper looked more destroyed when the McCann guy told him to sit than when Megan and Betty left him.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 April 2015 21:13 (nine years ago) link

loool so true

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 28 April 2015 21:13 (nine years ago) link

I love how being freshly-minted millionaires provided absolutely no solace for anybody

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 28 April 2015 21:16 (nine years ago) link

I liked Roger planting a drunken kiss on Don, "you are okay"

Last five minutes of Mad Men is gonna be Lou's "Scout's Honor" cartoon.

painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture (DavidM), Tuesday, 28 April 2015 21:22 (nine years ago) link

Would love it if they all jumped ship again to join Freddy Rumsen's fledgling startup.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 28 April 2015 21:24 (nine years ago) link

Rumsen Phillips and Romano

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 28 April 2015 21:37 (nine years ago) link

I also liked the foursome drinking beer in the middle of the day after McCann guy gives them the rest of the day off.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 April 2015 21:40 (nine years ago) link

A reddit thread places it in August 1970 - the calendar on the wall behind Trudy, genuine magazines on desks from that month.

xxxxp

nate woolls, Tuesday, 28 April 2015 21:43 (nine years ago) link

Joan: "No one takes me seriously over there." Yeah we saw that recently, when she and Peggy met with the Three Stooges, who were about to start jacking off at the conference table, 'til one of the gals pulled out some distracting print, ooo, gotta study this, h'mmm, yas.
Mention of contracts (don't think they have all the merger loot yet), but maybe she could buy her own non-advertising business (something she may already know about, like a printing company, IT consultancy[lot of early IT consultants were female]). Can see her on the beach with her geezer, phoning in, to see how things are going. She left the business world behind briefly, when she got married, but that went so wrong, and it's been so long, don't think she'll try that again (although---was that a serious offer, to send her four-year-old away, to please the geezer?)

dow, Tuesday, 28 April 2015 21:49 (nine years ago) link

I liked Roger planting a drunken kiss on Don, "you are okay"

For some reason that made me immediately think "oh no, Roger is going to die!" It felt too much like a final farewell and there was all of this stuff before that about quitting smoking "you're a young man" etc.

wk, Tuesday, 28 April 2015 22:34 (nine years ago) link

although---was that a serious offer, to send her four-year-old away

Lock this thread forever and don't let another one be started if anyone else asks this.

( who ALSO my boss and his sister!) (sic), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 01:20 (nine years ago) link

I figured she did it to check his reaction.

dow, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 01:59 (nine years ago) link

I was drunk

ultimate american sock (mh), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 02:18 (nine years ago) link

I am the man who drinks at home

ultimate american sock (mh), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 02:19 (nine years ago) link

re: upthread: don has paid prostitutes for sex intentionally, remember the prostitute he hired repeatedly to slap him (etc) in the faye era?

jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 16:58 (nine years ago) link

last scene is homeless don draper clutching rotgut in a brown paper bag looking at the 1984 Ridley Scott Mac commercial through an electronics store window

― ultimate american sock (mh), Monday, April 27, 2015 2:05 PM (4 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Serious LOL!

schwantz, Friday, 1 May 2015 18:11 (nine years ago) link

Some of the music in this was odd, especially the Pete and Peggy scene.

As soon as they were all planning to turn things around it was obvious it wasn't going to work. Great episode.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 1 May 2015 20:46 (nine years ago) link

yeah they were obviously setting up a reversal of "that scene" that seems to play out in every other season-ending arc (the one where they hatch and execute a brilliant plan under duress)

i like the idea that the ending of the show will just be all these folks absorbed into the anonymity of a huge ad agency.

he quipped with heat (amateurist), Friday, 1 May 2015 20:50 (nine years ago) link

I want a spinoff where Betty moves to Italy.

gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Friday, 1 May 2015 21:17 (nine years ago) link

I want a spinoff where she becomes a psychologist.

Darin, Friday, 1 May 2015 22:58 (nine years ago) link

ok now this is interesting IMO. vague but interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JI7d4tkz4e4

piscesx, Friday, 1 May 2015 23:37 (nine years ago) link

All three women look gorgeous in that clip.

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Friday, 1 May 2015 23:52 (nine years ago) link

january jones irl is just sensationally beautiful.

so grim that elizabeth moss is a scientologist.

amusing that jon hamm says literally nothing in that entire video, until five seconds at the very end, he is the secret man who drinks at work.

bureau belfast model (LocalGarda), Saturday, 2 May 2015 01:20 (nine years ago) link

so grim that elizabeth moss is a scientologist.

Oh fuck. I liked her until you said that.

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Saturday, 2 May 2015 01:23 (nine years ago) link

i know - disgusting.

bureau belfast model (LocalGarda), Saturday, 2 May 2015 01:26 (nine years ago) link

J Jones looks like she'd be the loopy one. I agree she looks stunning though.

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Saturday, 2 May 2015 01:34 (nine years ago) link

totes can imagine a Cruise/Moss marriage in the not too distant ftr.

piscesx, Saturday, 2 May 2015 02:27 (nine years ago) link

she is not a good token nor capable of being a cypher, especially after her commentary on last marriage

ultimate american sock (mh), Saturday, 2 May 2015 04:08 (nine years ago) link

elisabeth moss was born into a prominent scientology family.

that doesn't exactly excuse her various apologies/evasions, but it gives it a little context i guess.

above all i just find it sad.

didn't january jones date keanu reeves yonks ago? that's how i first heard of her IIRC.

he quipped with heat (amateurist), Saturday, 2 May 2015 05:21 (nine years ago) link

Maybe? I know she dated Ashton Kutcher for a couple years.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 2 May 2015 05:22 (nine years ago) link

No one ever wishes Jane would come back. Poor Jane.

http://literalminded.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/janesiegal.jpg

clemenza, Saturday, 2 May 2015 14:06 (nine years ago) link


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