Rolling Marvel Cinematic Universe thread (+ a poll: Classic or Dud?)

it's a great bit

yep - really top-notch craft and payoff on that

and yeah actually point taken - the hammer, throughout, is the exception to the massy CGI rule

Seeing this Thursday night — I idly wondered if there would be a midnight show, so I checked Fandango. Turns out the cinema isn't even waiting until midnight, so we're going to the 2D screening at 8. (I wouldn't have gone to a midnight show, btw.)

I think movie studios realize the midnight release thing was great, but it was depriving them of even more income by releasing a few hours earlier. I can't wait until it goes full cycle through the week and they start releasing on Friday again.

Martin Freeman confirmed for Cap 3.

should start working out right now

Heh. I'm guessing president or other pol behind Registration Act.

i was thinking the porcupine

for the more sane among you: http://marvel.com/universe/Porcupine_%28Alexander_Gentry%29

http://www.hollywood-elsewhere.com/2015/05/plague/

"Fant4stic II" grebt movie title

Fantastic Fourtuitussle

well these things aren't gonna any less crowded

Set for release in the United States on May 6, 2016, “Captain America: Civil War” is directed by Anthony and Joe Russo (Marvel’s “Captain America: The Winter Soldier,” “Community”) from a screenplay by Christopher Markus & Stephen McFeely (“Captain America: The Winter Solider,” Marvel’s “Captain America: The First Avenger”). The film returns Chris Evans (“Captain America: The Winter Soldier,” Marvel’s “Avengers: Age of Ultron”) as the iconic Super Hero character Steve Rogers/Captain America along with Robert Downey Jr. (“Avengers: Age of Ultron,” Marvel’s “Iron Man 3”) as Tony Stark/Iron Man, Scarlett Johansson (“Avengers: Age of Ultron,” “Captain America: The Winter Soldier”) as Natasha Romanoff/Black Widow, Sebastian Stan (“Captain America: The Winter Soldier,” “Captain America: The First Avenger”) as Bucky Barnes/Winter Soldier, Anthony Mackie (“Avengers: Age of Ultron,” “Captain America: The Winter Soldier”) as Sam Wilson/Falcon, Paul Bettany (“Avengers: Age of Ultron,” “Iron Man 3”) as The Vision, Jeremy Renner (“Avengers: Age of Ultron,” Marvel’s “The Avengers”) as Clint Barton/Hawkeye, Don Cheadle (“Avengers: Age of Ultron,” “Iron Man 3”) as Jim Rhodes/War Machine and Elizabeth Olsen (“Avengers: Age of Ultron,” “Godzilla”) as Wanda Maximoff/Scarlet Witch.

After his debut in Marvel’s “Ant-Man” on July 17, 2015, Paul Rudd (“Ant-Man,” ”Anchorman 2: The Legend Continues”) will make his first appearance alongside the Avengers as Scott Lang/Ant-Man in “Captain America: Civil War.”

The film also includes outstanding additional cast, including Chadwick Boseman (“42,” “Get on Up”) as T’Challa/Black Panther, Emily VanCamp (“Captain America: The Winter Soldier,” “Revenge”) as Sharon Carter/Agent 13, Daniel Brühl (“Inglourious Basterds,” “Bourne Ultimatum”), Frank Grillo (“Captain America: The Winter Soldier,” “Warrior”) as Brock Rumlow/Crossbones, William Hurt (“A History of Violence,” Marvel’s “The Incredible Hulk”) as General Thaddeus “Thunderbolt” Ross and Martin Freeman (“The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey,” “The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies”).

“Captain America: Civil War” picks up where “Avengers: Age of Ultron” left off, as Steve Rogers leads the new team of Avengers in their continued efforts to safeguard humanity. After another international incident involving the Avengers results in collateral damage, political pressure mounts to install a system of accountability and a governing body to determine when to enlist the services of the team. The new status quo fractures the Avengers while they try to protect the world from a new and nefarious villain.

woah an incredible hulk callback

that might beat the return of bow wow and lucas black to the fast furious franchise for near-admirable No Episode Left Behind bone-throwing

lotta inverted commas and parentheses there jesus

i saw avengers 2 tuesday night and i kept thinking about how much fun it would be if marvel got back their f4 + x-men rights and did a secret war movie

so they've got thunderbolt ross but no mention of the ruff stuff

Missing u, Liv.

Never has such a silly movie been so boring, recent star wars films aside. Toneless (aside from self-serious), bloated, exhausting and unfun, the whole thing. Mark Ruffalo was the only one who didn't seem bored, RDJ was unusually lazy. Jeremy Renner didn't raise an eyebrow between sniping robots and telling his pregnant wife he'll build that addition to the nursery when he gets back from saving the world, one last time. An hour too long. But also the one marvel movie where the dialogue dragged less then the action.

That party scene in the first third was highly watchable, a half dozen mega-stars squirming through their wink wink one liners in a sad and increasingly uncomfortable attempt to establish they're just a couple of bros, underneath the tights. Sharing a few brews in the lounge while trading stories about that one time in Asgard with the staff and the demi-god. Yet to see a filmmaking team who can not make it completely awkward.

Despite packing in more digression's on morality per half hour then any piece of popular entertainment I can remember, this is a movie lacking anything resembling soul or heart or humanity. Professions of love and camaraderie emerge lifelessly from every major character. There's a lot of ive-got-your-back/knowing nods to each other in the midst of battle that fail to even reach enjoyable corniness because they're so devoid of playfulness.

No memorable action scenes either, or anything resembling a thrill in them. Lots of spinning cameras and slow mo cgi while people yammer on their earpieces to each other. Marvel costume department also meets the low bar set for itself, wtf is Hawkeye wearing? Quicksilver modelling yoga apparel, scarlett witch teenage rebellion.

Audiences deserve better from a summer blockbuster imho.

still loads better than most summer blockbusters tbh

Sometimes the more someone types "worst ever," "most since forever" etc the less you actually believe they see a lot of movies

That said I love the irony of an avengers pan full of hollow melodramatic language

In fairness, the party scene with a half-dozen megastars is the rock on which nearly every other film-making team has floundered.

Are they really megastars? Downey and Johansson maybe, but Cheadle and Ruffalo are perennial supporting actors, and the others are basically famous only because they play superheroes in these movies.

Marvel movies in general aren't flawless, but I think casting has been one of their strongest points, pretty much every main character embodies their roles really well, except maybe for Renner and Johansson, who are kinda bland. (Johansson was actually pretty good in Winter Soldier, but that movie gave her a meatier role than Avengers 2.)

While the hulk/widow story was not unaffecting for me, I completely understand the pain people are having seeing ScarJo spend so much of this movie making googoo eyes knowing no spinoff is on the horizon, esp post winter soldier

Was really in the right mental space for this movie and loved it.

http://36.media.tumblr.com/fbc4fc46d4421683461e36193623253c/tumblr_mu2q8gouWu1s01fsdo1_500.jpg
this is not a great peter parker choice

is that natalie dorners brother bc he look like her

Is that confirmed now? He was pretty good in Hugo and Ender's Game and I know they were looking for someone who was actually a teenager for a change.

Man, they're never gonna do Grown-Assed Spider-Man, are they?

“Marvel is courting Selma filmmaker Ava DuVernay to direct one of its diverse superhero movies.... Insiders suggest that Black Panther, due first in July 2018, is the most likely possibility.”

http://www.thewrap.com/marvel-courting-ava-duvernay-to-direct-diverse-superhero-movie-exclusive/

Tilda Swinton as the Ancient One in Strange — maybe.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/tilda-swinton-talks-join-benedict-798348

I used to want a Dr. Strange movie but now I don't anymore tbh

It's going to take a little shoehorning to fit Strange mysticism into the sleek teched-up vision of the MCU. The Thor films run into that problem as well. It suddenly occurred to me that an unmentioned but close comparable to the MCU is Doc Smith's "Lensmen" series.

I would be down with Ancient One Tilda; that's good casting

They were doing pretty well with the 'in my realm technology and magic are one and the same' thing until the mystical pool of whatever showed up in Avengers 2.

way to look for a Tibetan actor Hollywood

RUH-OH

That's an interesting Civil War rumour.

With love and respect, fuck off if you're not going to tell us what it is.

"Are they really megastars? Downey and Johansson maybe, but Cheadle and Ruffalo are perennial supporting actors, and the others are basically famous only because they play superheroes in these movies."

Not sure I would call them megastars, but Evans, Renner, Ruffalo, Cheadle, Jackson are all very recognizable actors who have a fair resumes outside of these films. Hemsworth is the only one who could credibly be said to be famous initially due to his Thor casting, but he's been in quite a bit since then and he's from a "ooh sexy young Aussie star family" to boot.

"fair resumes" /= megastars

is the thing

Ok Andrew, since you asked so nicely.

William Hurt is back as General Ross. But he might also be playing Ross' current alter-ego. The Rulk.

If he doesn't punch The Watcher I'll be disappointed, but seemingly he just punches The Hulk. "Like the Hulkbuster fight, but bigger."

god bless Ruffalo, but he is no megastar.

I guess I am not even sure who is a megastar anymore, but Avengers cast feels like a lot of pretty big egos at this point.

Downey, as noted, couldn't get the public to get much of an interest in The Judge. They're none of them a Bogart, or even Schwarzenegger - which is definitely to the Avengers's benefit.

(The closest is probably Jackson? But his egalitarian approach to what he'll appear in means very few people are going to turn up just because it's his name on a film)

xp thank you, Aldo! I would go see that (but then I will go see it anyway)

Even huge stars are in bombs that no one wants to see. Look back over Stallone's 80s filmography to see a choice few.

Although I guess the Judge was supposedly kinda good whereas Over The Top is uh not (or at best is good very ironically).