Ongoing U.S Police Brutality and Corruption Discussion Thread

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Orson Wellies (in orbit), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 12:12 (nine years ago) link

thanks io!

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 13:18 (nine years ago) link

Joseph K, huh?

jmm, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 14:49 (nine years ago) link

wow @ whole foods

example (crüt), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 14:50 (nine years ago) link

pumped for Turkey & Cheese

resulting post (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 15:13 (nine years ago) link

I also thought Obama was more casually eloquent than I've seen him in months. Through the boilerplate the sentences were sharp and smart.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 17:08 (nine years ago) link

this blew my mind:

"But how does that justify what they did?" Burnett said. "I mean, that's a sense of right and wrong. They know it's wrong to steal and burn down a CVS and an old person's home. I mean, come on." "Come on?" Stokes said. "So calling them thugs — just call them niggers. Just call them niggers." "When you say 'come on,' come on what?" he added. "You wouldn't call your a child a thug if they did something which was not what you'd expect them to do." "I would hope I would call my son a thug if he ever did such a thing," Burnett shot back.

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a34673/thugs-are-in-the-eye-of-the-pundit/

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 17:15 (nine years ago) link

If state power wants people to follow the law they need to set and follow their own example first.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 17:19 (nine years ago) link

can news rebloggers refrain from using phrases like "zipped merrily through the Intertoobz" just this once

example (crüt), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 17:28 (nine years ago) link

I'm oddly tempted to have "thug" tattooed on my arm this week

RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 17:35 (nine years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDux2RJVEAIigZ4.png

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 17:39 (nine years ago) link

only seen this point mentioned once, halfway through this one story, but worth repeating in light of the oft-repeated 'they torched an old folks' home' point:

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/04/the-paradox-at-the-heart-of-police-brutality-protests/391637/

The problem with taking news reports at face value became apparent as the night wore on, when a senior home across the city in East Baltimore caught on fire. Initially, it was believed to be connected to the unrest—reporters even spoke with residents who were aghast that the violence had moved to their neighborhood. Yet the fire department later told The Washington Post the fire was not related to protests and seemed to be an unfortunately timed construction mishap.

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 17:55 (nine years ago) link

&

Eyewitnesses: The Baltimore Riots Didn't Start the Way You Think
Baltimore teachers and parents tell a different story from the one you've been reading in the media.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/04/how-baltimore-riots-began-mondawmin-purge

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 18:01 (nine years ago) link

The senior center fire is still under investigation. They haven't officially linked it to the riots. That caught my eye too, when I saw it, but when I went to the Washington Post to confirm I couldn't find anything.

how's life, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 18:37 (nine years ago) link

The Sun has consistenly been better on the protests and riots, and I am no fan of the Sun.

Three Word Username, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 19:33 (nine years ago) link

eyes out on stalks moment for Britishers there till they remember the Baltimore Sun.

'come around to your house and fuck your ho' (paraphrase) (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 22:40 (nine years ago) link

that took maybe 0.3 seconds tbf

carles the jekyll (imago), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 22:49 (nine years ago) link

almost 2000 comments in 5 hours

sleeve, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 22:58 (nine years ago) link

ughhhh my cousin just shared the line of people "protecting the police" image. "Step 1, in taking their city back!" glsdkgjsldkgjg

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 23:15 (nine years ago) link

Forgive my ignorance, but what was actually going on there?

AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 23:51 (nine years ago) link

they weren't 'protecting the police' so much as keeping a de-escalated presence between the guys with guns and the crowd--more 'keep em separated' than 'leave our cops alone.'

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 30 April 2015 00:36 (nine years ago) link

photos from the front tend to play as 'protecting the cops,' i've seen others from the space between the line and the cops played as 'WE TURN OUR BACKS ON THEM', its a neutral enough gesture for people to be able to do what they want with it.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 30 April 2015 00:37 (nine years ago) link

Just really really loathe the implication that all 'real' Americans love the police, that only some inexplicable outsiders oppose them, that people aligning with the police would be ''taking back 'our' streets,'' the whole bit. barf. granted i did not expect different from these particular cousins but still

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 30 April 2015 00:44 (nine years ago) link

Guy I know noted that the most pro cop / anti rioter people on his Fb feed were the same ones who are most vocal about needing assault rifles in case they need to violently oppose an oppressive police state.

joygoat, Thursday, 30 April 2015 01:06 (nine years ago) link

lol @ upworthy's awkward effort to switch their headline style up

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 30 April 2015 01:31 (nine years ago) link

https://org2.salsalabs.com/o/7315/donate_page/ows-bail-fund

Bail fund for NYC arrests btw

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Thursday, 30 April 2015 04:10 (nine years ago) link

wow. Fuck CNN

“I have to say, you’re a leader and so many people have said don’t say it in rap, don’t say it so loosely, don’t assume you can say it because you’re one color and another color can’t. It’s just so painful to hear it no matter what color we are and I’m glad you decided not to use it on this show.”
http://gawker.com/white-cnn-anchor-scolds-black-baltimore-councilman-for-1701025065

fucking moron

flappy bird, Thursday, 30 April 2015 18:43 (nine years ago) link

omg that Hayes thing is awesome

Οὖτις, Thursday, 30 April 2015 18:50 (nine years ago) link

It took less than 24 hours for the lie that Freddie Gray had a pre-existing back injury to become accepted CW among the FOX news/Beetbort crowd. Amazing.

I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Thursday, 30 April 2015 18:54 (nine years ago) link

Would like the media to shut up about how the culture is to blame when they are defining that culture themselves dumb-heads.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 30 April 2015 18:57 (nine years ago) link

I don't get it has the internet destroyed all history or do these people need to go back to school and learn about the history of power structures?

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 30 April 2015 18:58 (nine years ago) link

It's a mixture of ignorance and cynical disingenuousness but I'm not sure of the ratio.

More Fetid Than Fêted (Old Lunch), Thursday, 30 April 2015 19:01 (nine years ago) link

It makes sense from a corporate/state standpoint. Hype up the influence of the media over people while simultaneously deflecting any blame for the results of its actions (like running violent murders on daytime TV) or the actions of the powers it represents. It's probably a tactic developed by insurance adjusters.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 30 April 2015 19:29 (nine years ago) link

These people are astounded at the destruction of private property rather than real violence done to humans because to them money is more valuable than human life.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 30 April 2015 19:31 (nine years ago) link

From how people talk, I don't think they see it as money vs humanity? I think they see the money/property part as the result of someone's else's hard work & success, a person who must have "followed the rules" to get where they are, who must deserve their success. And now that store or those items are now synonymous with that person? Are imbued with their deservingness? So attacking their...holdings? Possessions? Is the same as attacking their person.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Thursday, 30 April 2015 19:45 (nine years ago) link

can we call this phenomenon "Ozymandius by proxy"

DJP, Thursday, 30 April 2015 19:49 (nine years ago) link

Well, and people who have to work at that store or fill their prescriptions there.

a mad urea nub (how's life), Thursday, 30 April 2015 19:54 (nine years ago) link

uh I think its because some people dont consider the people rioting to be 'humans' like they are

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 30 April 2015 19:55 (nine years ago) link

Well, and people who have to work at that store or fill their prescriptions there.

Yeah but honestly if the those who talk shit about "riots and looting" actually cared about the people who work in the stores or live in low-income and primarily Black communities, they'd be showing that in how they live, vote, and talk about other issues as well. Concern trolling about how seniors will fill their prescriptions is just a convenient angle for them to use to respectability-shame Black people and discredit popular uprising.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Thursday, 30 April 2015 20:00 (nine years ago) link

^^^

DJP, Thursday, 30 April 2015 20:05 (nine years ago) link

I want to like the last in orbit post a hundred times

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 April 2015 20:08 (nine years ago) link

I'd like to think that a lot of it is actual concern, rather than concern trolling, but no doubt a lot ddrddddddddddddddddddddd666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666t6 t 6666 y

a mad urea nub (how's life), Thursday, 30 April 2015 20:13 (nine years ago) link

A rain drop fell on my phone and hit submit post for me.

a mad urea nub (how's life), Thursday, 30 April 2015 20:14 (nine years ago) link

post interrupted by passing satan train

Karl Malone, Thursday, 30 April 2015 20:14 (nine years ago) link

I was concerned that someone burned down the drugstore where you get your medication.

More Fetid Than Fêted (Old Lunch), Thursday, 30 April 2015 20:15 (nine years ago) link


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