MAD MEN on AMC - Seasons 7(a) & & 7(b)

Well, now you're just ruining everything with facts.

If it's a Mother Betty's Day, gotta use Pink Floyd's "Mother," pref. Natalie Maines's version.

Lennon's "mother" seems more appropriate esp re: don

Yeah that'd be good, but was thinking of the warnings, times inner conflicts brought out when Mother Maines is singing. Makes me think of the Philip Larkin poem beginning, "They fuck you up, Mom and Dad, they may not mean to but they do..." Later: "...they were fucked in their turn..." Betty scolded her little brother, reminding him that they were fined for small talk at the table (good way for Squire Glen to get some of that allowance money back).

'They fuck you up your MUM and dad', please.

slowly getting nervous about tonight's. hope Rog doesn't have a heart attack, was convinced he was gonna keel over after all that Vermouth last week.

mutant alligators take over new york, everything to be resolved in last episode

The last Mad Men episode will be animated, a joint production with the The Simpsons crew.

Haha I occasionally sing to myself "They're Mad! They're Men!" ala the Itchy & Scratchy theme

If it follows the prestige-TV template, tonight's the night the bullets fly and next week is the denouement.

*has The Fear for Roger*

chekhov's heart problem

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DUCK

MERLE!

Mrs. Robinson!

Geez--Happy Mother's Day, Betty.

i...did not expect that.

Don Draper turns his lonely eyes to you.

Enjoying the sight of him reclining in bed reminded me for one of the first times of what a beautiful man Hamm can be.

He is the man who drinks in the motel room

I wonder what Don thinks about Lucy Mancini's gigantic vagina.

the secret hotel room xp

pete campbell, voice of reason who knew

ptsd and alcoholism, not modern conditions by any reach

I'm not following the Pete-Duck strand at all. Paraphrase?

That was so weird (Don's part of the story, I mean)--I thought it was another dream when the Legion guys showed up in his room. Betty's letter was nice. Didn't find Pete and Trudy's reconciliation all that credible. And those people trying to guess at the music, they must be nuts.

Duck is trying to recruit Pete. Pete thinks he is stuck with McCann, is respected, and is pretty much the main SC&P guy left. But he's completely unfulfilled.

Duck is trying to hustle by giving McCann a Learjet connection, get a commission for delivering an internal marketing man, and give Pete what is actually a good job. He did it in the most obnoxious Duck way, though.

Don's part of the story was great because small town people are supposed to be wholesome and they're all crooked in the stupidest ways, and these are the detritus of wars gone by and dumb travelers.

Maybe historic spoiler

When drunk Duck left Pete's room, he did this thing that was really funny where he looked right, then left.

Gimme a Vegas bookie to give me odds on "American Pie" ending the series.

When the WWII guy told his traumatic story, was that about cannibalism? I didn't quite get the gist of that.

"In three days, it will fall off by itself!"

One of my favorite terrible old man jokes, that.

When did Don turn into Strunk & White with the grammar?

When the WWII guy told his traumatic story, was that about cannibalism? I didn't quite get the gist of that.
--clemenza

yea, I mean I can't see what else it could have meant

i just understood it as these guys surrendered to them and they didn't have the resources to feed them so they just killed them and took their stuff.

He made it sound like the Germans didn't have anything either tho.

Gimme a Vegas bookie to give me odds on "American Pie" ending the series.

― ... (Eazy), lunes 11 de mayo de 2015 4:22 (3 hours ago)

Not a Vegas bookie but I'll give you 20-1 if you're interested.

That was an incredible episode, all my doubts about the show have disappeared, its had rough patches but its still something I will think about and refer to for the rest of my life and the last few episodes have done it justice, give or take a misstep or two. I was in tears several times during that episode. You hear about ideas such as "A woman's medical problems would be dealt with through her husband" and it sounds appalling, of course, but to see it in action is something else entirely different and something I'll never forget.

Who would have thought that both Pete and Betty would turn out to be the Buddy Garriry of the show?

Last night's episode was fine. I liked keeping vague the mortal sin committed by the soldiers -- cannibalism? shooting them dead so the Americans could take their shit? -- although the young con man was too on the nose for my taste (did anyone think he was going to proposition Draper?). The Duck-Pete plot line was clumsier.

The show should end with Sterling alone, wearing Cooper's kimono and padding in his sock feet, the scene garnished with a crane shot of Burger King Corporation.

Buddy Holly does set up "American Pie" well, but I don't think so either. They'd have to start it well before the credits, like in Six Feet Under--the song's length and the way it's structured make it tricky to edit (you'd really need to come in right on the opening).

Something good has to happen to Peggy next week. First Joan's humiliation, now Betty's diagnosis. All so...Pete can end up happy?

Trying to figure out the meaning of Betty's cancer, beyond the fact that it's the last two episodes and stuff has to happen. Don't mean to be glib--thematically, why did they do this? One thing is that it brings everything back full circle to the very first episode, where the pressing concern was how to work around government legislation on cigarette advertising (Wikipedia's description: "Don rejects company research which suggests that some customers will be drawn to smoke despite the health risks because of a collective 'death wish'").

Which was, of course, titled "Smoke Gets in Your Eyes."

The A.V. Club has some nice screenshots up (this'll be too large, probably):

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So the whole show has been about Pete Campbell's rise to power in the private aviation industry? OK...

found this episode to be a little bit overbearing with much more forced sentimentality than usual.

genuinely surprised and confused by Pete and Trudy reconciling, because the show did a pretty effective job of making their marriage out to be a loveless farce. didn't sit right with me.

was happy to see Don in a (relative) state of equanimity right at the end, because he really did suffer through a rotten sequence of events in this episode through no fault of his own. seems that every time he goes walkabout, tremendously strange shit happens.

i'm glad that the hardened, complicated relationship between Betty and Sally endured; kind of fitting that Betty remained typically stern and ungiving during the late-night bedroom scene. i was hoping that scene wasn't going to get too melodramatic and, thankfully, it didn't. that said, the writers didn't really leave themselves much time to resolve such a prodigious plot-line; the whole thing felt, you know, abbreviated, even if Betty has become a bit of an afterthought.

looking forward to seeing what happens with Roger in the final ep!

Agree with all of that. Sally reading the letter was very moving, as was Betty's stoicism.

I almost wondered if Betty turning the corner as she proceeded to class was the last we'd see of her--it would have been a graceful last shot--but you would think they'd have to have some kind of resolution with Don and Betty in the last episode.

there's some poetic justice to don just slipping out of everyone's life for good.