If it's a Mother Betty's Day, gotta use Pink Floyd's "Mother," pref. Natalie Maines's version.
― dow, Sunday, 10 May 2015 15:11 (nine years ago) link
Lennon's "mother" seems more appropriate esp re: don
― Οὖτις, Sunday, 10 May 2015 15:24 (nine years ago) link
Yeah that'd be good, but was thinking of the warnings, times inner conflicts brought out when Mother Maines is singing. Makes me think of the Philip Larkin poem beginning, "They fuck you up, Mom and Dad, they may not mean to but they do..." Later: "...they were fucked in their turn..." Betty scolded her little brother, reminding him that they were fined for small talk at the table (good way for Squire Glen to get some of that allowance money back).
― dow, Sunday, 10 May 2015 15:56 (nine years ago) link
'They fuck you up your MUM and dad', please.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Sunday, 10 May 2015 15:58 (nine years ago) link
slowly getting nervous about tonight's. hope Rog doesn't have a heart attack, was convinced he was gonna keel over after all that Vermouth last week.
― piscesx, Sunday, 10 May 2015 18:52 (nine years ago) link
mutant alligators take over new york, everything to be resolved in last episode
― “audience participation” otherwise known as “touching” (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 10 May 2015 21:34 (nine years ago) link
The last Mad Men episode will be animated, a joint production with the The Simpsons crew.
― dow, Sunday, 10 May 2015 21:46 (nine years ago) link
Haha I occasionally sing to myself "They're Mad! They're Men!" ala the Itchy & Scratchy theme
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Sunday, 10 May 2015 22:22 (nine years ago) link
If it follows the prestige-TV template, tonight's the night the bullets fly and next week is the denouement.
― ... (Eazy), Sunday, 10 May 2015 22:43 (nine years ago) link
*has The Fear for Roger*
― camp event (suzy), Sunday, 10 May 2015 22:48 (nine years ago) link
chekhov's heart problem
― cis-het shitlord (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 10 May 2015 23:08 (nine years ago) link
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― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 11 May 2015 01:10 (nine years ago) link
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― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 11 May 2015 01:11 (nine years ago) link
DUCK
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 11 May 2015 02:02 (nine years ago) link
MERLE!
― Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 11 May 2015 02:04 (nine years ago) link
Mrs. Robinson!
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 May 2015 02:11 (nine years ago) link
Geez--Happy Mother's Day, Betty.
― clemenza, Monday, 11 May 2015 02:16 (nine years ago) link
i...did not expect that.
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 11 May 2015 02:17 (nine years ago) link
Don Draper turns his lonely eyes to you.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 May 2015 02:18 (nine years ago) link
Enjoying the sight of him reclining in bed reminded me for one of the first times of what a beautiful man Hamm can be.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 May 2015 02:26 (nine years ago) link
He is the man who drinks in the motel room
― ultimate american sock (mh), Monday, 11 May 2015 02:30 (nine years ago) link
I wonder what Don thinks about Lucy Mancini's gigantic vagina.
― tokyo rosemary, Monday, 11 May 2015 02:34 (nine years ago) link
the secret hotel room xp
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 11 May 2015 02:42 (nine years ago) link
pete campbell, voice of reason who knew
ptsd and alcoholism, not modern conditions by any reach
― ultimate american sock (mh), Monday, 11 May 2015 02:55 (nine years ago) link
I'm not following the Pete-Duck strand at all. Paraphrase?
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 May 2015 02:57 (nine years ago) link
That was so weird (Don's part of the story, I mean)--I thought it was another dream when the Legion guys showed up in his room. Betty's letter was nice. Didn't find Pete and Trudy's reconciliation all that credible. And those people trying to guess at the music, they must be nuts.
― clemenza, Monday, 11 May 2015 03:12 (nine years ago) link
Duck is trying to recruit Pete. Pete thinks he is stuck with McCann, is respected, and is pretty much the main SC&P guy left. But he's completely unfulfilled.
Duck is trying to hustle by giving McCann a Learjet connection, get a commission for delivering an internal marketing man, and give Pete what is actually a good job. He did it in the most obnoxious Duck way, though.
― ultimate american sock (mh), Monday, 11 May 2015 03:14 (nine years ago) link
Don's part of the story was great because small town people are supposed to be wholesome and they're all crooked in the stupidest ways, and these are the detritus of wars gone by and dumb travelers.
― ultimate american sock (mh), Monday, 11 May 2015 03:16 (nine years ago) link
Maybe historic spoiler
― ... (Eazy), Monday, 11 May 2015 03:18 (nine years ago) link
When drunk Duck left Pete's room, he did this thing that was really funny where he looked right, then left.
― clemenza, Monday, 11 May 2015 03:21 (nine years ago) link
Gimme a Vegas bookie to give me odds on "American Pie" ending the series.
― ... (Eazy), Monday, 11 May 2015 03:22 (nine years ago) link
When the WWII guy told his traumatic story, was that about cannibalism? I didn't quite get the gist of that.
― clemenza, Monday, 11 May 2015 04:00 (nine years ago) link
"In three days, it will fall off by itself!"
One of my favorite terrible old man jokes, that.
― Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 11 May 2015 04:00 (nine years ago) link
When did Don turn into Strunk & White with the grammar?
― clemenza, Monday, 11 May 2015 04:17 (nine years ago) link
When the WWII guy told his traumatic story, was that about cannibalism? I didn't quite get the gist of that. --clemenza
yea, I mean I can't see what else it could have meant
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 11 May 2015 04:33 (nine years ago) link
i just understood it as these guys surrendered to them and they didn't have the resources to feed them so they just killed them and took their stuff.
― entry-level umami (mild bleu cheese vibes) (s.clover), Monday, 11 May 2015 05:30 (nine years ago) link
He made it sound like the Germans didn't have anything either tho.
― Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 11 May 2015 05:36 (nine years ago) link
― ... (Eazy), lunes 11 de mayo de 2015 4:22 (3 hours ago)
Not a Vegas bookie but I'll give you 20-1 if you're interested.
That was an incredible episode, all my doubts about the show have disappeared, its had rough patches but its still something I will think about and refer to for the rest of my life and the last few episodes have done it justice, give or take a misstep or two. I was in tears several times during that episode. You hear about ideas such as "A woman's medical problems would be dealt with through her husband" and it sounds appalling, of course, but to see it in action is something else entirely different and something I'll never forget.
Who would have thought that both Pete and Betty would turn out to be the Buddy Garriry of the show?
― .robin., Monday, 11 May 2015 07:26 (nine years ago) link
Last night's episode was fine. I liked keeping vague the mortal sin committed by the soldiers -- cannibalism? shooting them dead so the Americans could take their shit? -- although the young con man was too on the nose for my taste (did anyone think he was going to proposition Draper?). The Duck-Pete plot line was clumsier.
The show should end with Sterling alone, wearing Cooper's kimono and padding in his sock feet, the scene garnished with a crane shot of Burger King Corporation.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 May 2015 11:37 (nine years ago) link
Buddy Holly does set up "American Pie" well, but I don't think so either. They'd have to start it well before the credits, like in Six Feet Under--the song's length and the way it's structured make it tricky to edit (you'd really need to come in right on the opening).
Something good has to happen to Peggy next week. First Joan's humiliation, now Betty's diagnosis. All so...Pete can end up happy?
Trying to figure out the meaning of Betty's cancer, beyond the fact that it's the last two episodes and stuff has to happen. Don't mean to be glib--thematically, why did they do this? One thing is that it brings everything back full circle to the very first episode, where the pressing concern was how to work around government legislation on cigarette advertising (Wikipedia's description: "Don rejects company research which suggests that some customers will be drawn to smoke despite the health risks because of a collective 'death wish'").
― clemenza, Monday, 11 May 2015 11:44 (nine years ago) link
Which was, of course, titled "Smoke Gets in Your Eyes."
― clemenza, Monday, 11 May 2015 11:46 (nine years ago) link
The A.V. Club has some nice screenshots up (this'll be too large, probably):
http://i.onionstatic.com/avclub/5427/69/original/960.jpg
― clemenza, Monday, 11 May 2015 11:53 (nine years ago) link
So the whole show has been about Pete Campbell's rise to power in the private aviation industry? OK...
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 11 May 2015 12:14 (nine years ago) link
found this episode to be a little bit overbearing with much more forced sentimentality than usual.
genuinely surprised and confused by Pete and Trudy reconciling, because the show did a pretty effective job of making their marriage out to be a loveless farce. didn't sit right with me.
was happy to see Don in a (relative) state of equanimity right at the end, because he really did suffer through a rotten sequence of events in this episode through no fault of his own. seems that every time he goes walkabout, tremendously strange shit happens.
i'm glad that the hardened, complicated relationship between Betty and Sally endured; kind of fitting that Betty remained typically stern and ungiving during the late-night bedroom scene. i was hoping that scene wasn't going to get too melodramatic and, thankfully, it didn't. that said, the writers didn't really leave themselves much time to resolve such a prodigious plot-line; the whole thing felt, you know, abbreviated, even if Betty has become a bit of an afterthought.
looking forward to seeing what happens with Roger in the final ep!
― charlie h, Monday, 11 May 2015 12:42 (nine years ago) link
Agree with all of that. Sally reading the letter was very moving, as was Betty's stoicism.
― clemenza, Monday, 11 May 2015 12:49 (nine years ago) link
I almost wondered if Betty turning the corner as she proceeded to class was the last we'd see of her--it would have been a graceful last shot--but you would think they'd have to have some kind of resolution with Don and Betty in the last episode.
― clemenza, Monday, 11 May 2015 12:52 (nine years ago) link
there's some poetic justice to don just slipping out of everyone's life for good.
― ryan, Monday, 11 May 2015 12:53 (nine years ago) link
yeah. i mean, Don opts out of his responsibilities and other people's lives regularly, but there is a much stronger sense of finality to it this time round. i wonder if it's particularly necessary for us to see Don tying up loose ends with the other characters, particularly given how lonely, independent and unfulfilled his journey has been throughout the show.
― charlie h, Monday, 11 May 2015 13:06 (nine years ago) link