MAD MEN on AMC - Seasons 7(a) & & 7(b)

how does On the Road end? embarrassed to say i've never read it.

― ryan, Wednesday, May 13, 2015 11:33 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"And that's when I knew that the time had come for me to get off.. the road."

In one of the Molly Lambert pieces she makes a case for Don to set up in Las Vegas.

xxp final shot is him sitting alone at a cardinals game

on the road sucks

would love Mad Men to end with a close-up of Draper's uncomprehending face dissolving into Daniels and Pearlman having intense sex .

i thought the breaking bad ending was totally in line with the way the show ended, for better or worse. sopranos ending still the best, though justified's last scene is (im)probably the most eerily moving ending for a show that i've seen lately. sort of in line with the 'no country' ending somehow too.

Don gets run over. Driver shouts "hey buddy, you shouldn't have been... on the road!"

that is actually the ending of Sons of Anarchy

breaking bad finale was the biggest melodramatic j/o session i've ever seen, let's never speak of it again

I will yield it was not peak-BB, and that the show could've ended after season 4 and I would've been very happy. But this isn't the Seinfeld finale here.

breaking bad's ending was good but mechanically so and the show didn't seem to have a heart in the last half season, except for a cold black one. which is okay but it felt forced on occasion. still a great show for most of its run and the couple of episodes before the finale were peak level despite my caveats.

this comment:

a parody of what i imagine really macho "quality" cable to be like.

is OTM for 'sons of anarchy', which exists as a cautionary tale to those who would let MRA dudes run shows in the future.

See also whoever greenlit the Entourage movie.

sons of anarchy is a garbage program written by a comically hypermasculine lunatic

i figure it's got the be the same people who negotiated to keep Arli$$ on the air for seven seasons xpost

admittedly im kind of interested in that southpaw movie sutter wrote but i'm a sucker for boxing movies and jake gyllenhaal

I have seen one half of one episode of Entourage years ago, and it was right before my girlfriend of the time came over. I think I got shit for years as the guy who strongly insists he does not watch Entourage.

there were about five compelling 'sons of anarchy' characters and they were either killed off or marginalized so we could spend more time with juice

obviously the best character on the show, apparent only to the writers

An arbitrary etc ending could be good, but in that interview quoted upthread, January Jones contrasts the MM ending w Sopranos, so prob not meant as something oh so tricky (although Weiner has said that, as a viewer, he always likes to imagine the lives of characters after the end, so we'll prob get some implications).

I think I got shit for years as the guy who strongly insists he does not watch Entourage.

you have unpleasant friends and/or acquaintances if they attempted to make you feel bad for that lol, entourage fuckin sucked & was egregiously chauvinistic in a way that never came close to passing the "depiction is not endorsement" test

He's even said something like, "I always think, 'They *might* have dodged that collapsing building at the last second, it just got in the way of the camera.'"

we're going to betty's funeral for the finale, right? i don't expect all the loose ends to be tied into a neat little bow but i'd be surprised if don & sally's final scene was a phone conversation about her selling her field hockey equipment

nah, they thought Entourage was horrible, too, but I was so adamant that I was just watching a little to see what it was like that they were able to tease me about being a secret Entourage lover

she really should sell that field hockey equipment, if for no other reason than to pay for her Spain trip. I guess she might skip out on Spain if her mom might die while she's gone, though.

finale is just 65 minute static shot of abandoned field hockey equipment

in the last minute of the shot, don draper parachutes down with 200k and jumps into roger sterling's waiting car.

^^Soundtracked by a loop of Sinatra crooning "Summer Wind".

if Don moves out west and starts a brothel I am turning off the tv

I am turning off the tv

Steady on, that's a bit strong.

I lost my cool

i thought the breaking bad ending was totally in line with the way the show ended, for better or worse.

typo here or...?

my partner's dad really likes sons of anarchy. he likes anything "edgy." he is hard to converse with.

can we dispense with throwing shade at "lesser" forms of tv viewing itt

tbh we're mostly comparing shows that have some high aims with multi-season arcs and character development

it's not like we're throwing Burn Notice into the mix and trying to compare it to Mad Men

(nothing can compare with the purity of vision that was the multi-season Hyundai commercial that we called Burn Notice)

shade-throwing comment mostly directed at amateurist

boo-rns notice the last couple seasons imo

I'm sorry, VG, but Sons of Anarchy was very bad

I watched the whole thing.

congratulations on yr opinion

mad men is 70% furniture & ppl standing around in rooms do u want a medal

Season 1 was decent, season 2 a bit better, season 3 not bad (though that ATF agent was one of the worst characters in tv history in terms of depiction and treatment and execution, pun intended.) downhill from there big time.

who am i throwing shade at? aside from my girlfriend's dad?

SOA is the same but the furniture is motorcycles and the rooms have skulls and hubcaps instead of heywood wakefield

I think Mad Men is more cohesive and the plot has more merit overall, but it's had its duds when it comes to narrative threads?

I don't know, I differ from amateurist in a lot of opinions but I would definitely find it difficult to relate to some SoA mega-fans who find some of the shit in the show "cool" rather than problematic

Are there any Poochies of Mad Men who made it to the last season? Harry has his moments but it was mostly to burn him down.

idk maybe its just me, but there's just a weird smugness about mad men that reminds me of npr listeners who lol at low forms of culture

i hated the last couple of soa seasons anyway, i'll shut up

lol

I think Mad Men has a lot of viewers across the spectrum, but there's probably a segment who think it's somehow a "higher" form of entertainment.

ppl at work say it allllll the time! and I'm like, it's a goddamn soap opera with better wardrobe & nicer sets, calm down

I think any MM smugness is maybe from the veneer of classiness and viewers who get kinfolky over the interior design aesthetic but I think the show itself isn't particularly smug. Also it's the funniest of the prestige cable shows despite its image.

Poochies of Mad Men

lol @ this phrase btw

(I don't think there are any actual characters that qualify tbh)

yeah, mad men also benefited from some, uh, highly problematic mid-century nostalgia, especially w/r/t ideas of masculinity.

the only potential poochie I can recall got his foot run over by a lawnmower