congratulations on yr opinion
mad men is 70% furniture & ppl standing around in rooms do u want a medal
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:09 (nine years ago) link
Season 1 was decent, season 2 a bit better, season 3 not bad (though that ATF agent was one of the worst characters in tv history in terms of depiction and treatment and execution, pun intended.) downhill from there big time.
― ceres, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:10 (nine years ago) link
who am i throwing shade at? aside from my girlfriend's dad?
― he quipped with heat (amateurist), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:10 (nine years ago) link
SOA is the same but the furniture is motorcycles and the rooms have skulls and hubcaps instead of heywood wakefield
― ceres, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:11 (nine years ago) link
I think Mad Men is more cohesive and the plot has more merit overall, but it's had its duds when it comes to narrative threads?
I don't know, I differ from amateurist in a lot of opinions but I would definitely find it difficult to relate to some SoA mega-fans who find some of the shit in the show "cool" rather than problematic
― ultimate american sock (mh), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:14 (nine years ago) link
Are there any Poochies of Mad Men who made it to the last season? Harry has his moments but it was mostly to burn him down.
― ultimate american sock (mh), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:15 (nine years ago) link
idk maybe its just me, but there's just a weird smugness about mad men that reminds me of npr listeners who lol at low forms of culture
i hated the last couple of soa seasons anyway, i'll shut up
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:15 (nine years ago) link
lol
I think Mad Men has a lot of viewers across the spectrum, but there's probably a segment who think it's somehow a "higher" form of entertainment.
― ultimate american sock (mh), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:18 (nine years ago) link
ppl at work say it allllll the time! and I'm like, it's a goddamn soap opera with better wardrobe & nicer sets, calm down
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:19 (nine years ago) link
I think any MM smugness is maybe from the veneer of classiness and viewers who get kinfolky over the interior design aesthetic but I think the show itself isn't particularly smug. Also it's the funniest of the prestige cable shows despite its image.
― ceres, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:21 (nine years ago) link
Poochies of Mad Men
lol @ this phrase btw
(I don't think there are any actual characters that qualify tbh)
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:22 (nine years ago) link
yeah, mad men also benefited from some, uh, highly problematic mid-century nostalgia, especially w/r/t ideas of masculinity.
― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:23 (nine years ago) link
the only potential poochie I can recall got his foot run over by a lawnmower
― ceres, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:25 (nine years ago) link
xpost totallyi have one coworker that completely idolizes don draper which is just O_o
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:27 (nine years ago) link
well he does drink at work
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:27 (nine years ago) link
but it's like, do you WATCH the show? he's the worst!!
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:28 (nine years ago) link
I def have a Facebook acquaintance whose eyes get misty about the symbolism and treats Don Draper as a serious comment on the American condition.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:28 (nine years ago) link
drinking at work def a reasonable draper takeaway, everything else not so much
― slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:29 (nine years ago) link
xp i mean, he kind of is, largely because almost all his problems are his own fault (idk if your friend gets the second part of that tho)
― slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:30 (nine years ago) link
i think MM has been pretty generous to its characters in how it renders them as products of their own era and doesn't look back to judging them from a contemporary context, which i think has been one of its great strengths as a period piece. judgy, ahistorical presentism is the worst! but for sure, it also unleashed a legion of cufflinked assholes looking to class up their chauvinism.
― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:31 (nine years ago) link
to judge* them
― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:32 (nine years ago) link
i don't even really like mad men all that much! i watch it mainly b/c it's the only long-term TV drama i'm invested in ATM. i don't really have time for any others.
― he quipped with heat (amateurist), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:33 (nine years ago) link
i have a hard time seeing don draper as a coherent "person"--i feel like a lot of "analysis" of the show shows its desperation in trying to explain don's actions in some episode in terms of his previous actions. it can get pretty tangled.
― he quipped with heat (amateurist), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:34 (nine years ago) link
fwiw
i don't know why i put analysis in scare quotes, that was kind of snobby of me
― he quipped with heat (amateurist), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:35 (nine years ago) link
MM is just pretentious Melrose Place.
― schwantz, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:35 (nine years ago) link
i find myself only halfwatching most of the time, it's so laconic it's like it doesnt even care that its on tv lol
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:35 (nine years ago) link
schwantz otm
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:36 (nine years ago) link
"just"
― he quipped with heat (amateurist), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:36 (nine years ago) link
PF: I just don’t think about it very often. It’s just the way it is. It can often happen that way. You get cast on a show and you don’t know what’s going to happen eight episodes from now. When you’re doing television, it’s not like a play or a movie where you know what’s coming and can plan for it. I do remember on Mad Men, Matt Weiner told me a line that was four episodes later at the time I booked it. He told me that I say, “I’ve been standing behind guys like that my whole life,” about Don Draper. Matt told me that line when I got cast because he wanted me to know that’s what I’m feeling about Don. That one line was like, “Oh yeah, of course.”http://www.avclub.com/article/patrick-fischler-mad-men-lost-and-secrets-mulholla-218573
http://www.avclub.com/article/patrick-fischler-mad-men-lost-and-secrets-mulholla-218573
Realest MM has gotten for me. And that one episode w the poor guy who got fired for taking Don's advice and promptly told him off.
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:38 (nine years ago) link
, it's so laconic it's like it doesnt even care that its on tv lol
That is hilarious. I'm totally going to steal this.
― Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:39 (nine years ago) link
― ceres, Wednesday, May 13, 2015 5:10 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
season 4 was ok too, then they were just making shit up because they hadn't thought ahead about what if they didn't get cancelled
― entry-level umami (mild bleu cheese vibes) (s.clover), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:40 (nine years ago) link
in season finale, it is revealed that Bob Benson is actually Layne Price - who faked his own death but is now BACK to exact a terrible revenge
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:40 (nine years ago) link
:D
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:41 (nine years ago) link
can someone please mow roger down with a car
omigod guys imagine '92 era Grant Show in 1961 finery.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:42 (nine years ago) link
*swoon*
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:42 (nine years ago) link
start crossover fanfic... NOW
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:43 (nine years ago) link
and still called Jake
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:45 (nine years ago) link
of course
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:45 (nine years ago) link
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, May 13, 2015 5:41 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
b-b-b-but his bon mots though
― slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:46 (nine years ago) link
they obvs make up for his wholesale destruction of his family and the epic selfcenteredness of his self loathing
― slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:47 (nine years ago) link
now trying to think of what Roger would say after being hit by a car
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:48 (nine years ago) link
"it was.... fun"
"now I'm definitely too tired"
dada da dada da *applause*
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:50 (nine years ago) link
ie two tire-d
ok so cars have four but its funnymaybe a moped instead
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:51 (nine years ago) link
you've been saving that one up haven't ou
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:52 (nine years ago) link
"Figures it'd be a Toyota"
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:52 (nine years ago) link
awesome
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:53 (nine years ago) link
irl lols
― slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:53 (nine years ago) link