Maybe it will inadvertently lead to a lounge/easy listening revival in a couple years.
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 14 May 2015 19:02 (eight years ago) link
Is there any evidence that anyone's gotten something besides thrift store garbage from VYNL?
― SCHLITZ MIXED BAG (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 14 May 2015 19:36 (eight years ago) link
Nope. Even with the happy customers.
― Evan, Thursday, 14 May 2015 19:39 (eight years ago) link
Which one?
I was replying quickly on my phone earlier, so my initial response was to the first one, but it truly is disheartening to see so many.
What happened to vinyl fans being diggers? I remember when I first got into vinyl, it was just instinctual to hit second hand stores. Has common sense gone out the window in order to make room for this renewed interest in vinyl?
― austinato (Austin), Thursday, 14 May 2015 19:54 (eight years ago) link
lol crut
― markers, Thursday, 14 May 2015 19:55 (eight years ago) link
Hey, jefferson airplane is not garbage u dummies
― yeovil knievel (NickB), Thursday, 14 May 2015 19:57 (eight years ago) link
as a new vinyl buyer i will say that i have been to many second-hand shops over the last 5 years and the selections - esp re what i'm looking for - tend to be really really bad. otoh if yr in the market for a jefferson airplane album this is a golden time to be alive.
― Mordy, Thursday, 14 May 2015 19:58 (eight years ago) link
most of the good vinyl i've gotten have been donations from relatives, finding stuff on ebay, and -- eek - paying full price for some new reissue
― Mordy, Thursday, 14 May 2015 19:59 (eight years ago) link
Airplane may not suck, but it is an easy, 25¢ thrift store find.
And yeah, genuinely *GREAT* stuff is not going to be found in thrift stores. But when everything's a quarter, you have to expect Cat Stevens, not Velvet Underground.
― austinato (Austin), Thursday, 14 May 2015 20:03 (eight years ago) link
I guess burning n00bs will never get old.
― austinato (Austin), Thursday, 14 May 2015 20:19 (eight years ago) link
dying at the stereogum VNYL story, had not heard of this amazing scam. i'm imagining someone having some kind of account difficulty, they can't turn it off, lost password, and every month three more England Dan & John Ford Coley LPs show up, with "#LazySunday" stickers on the front, because of their interest in Sleater-Kinney, Meat Beat Manifesto and Sun Ra. they run out of places to put them, local stores have them on the blacklist, city sanitation crews rip them out of the trash and hurl them back under their doors. and yet they keep coming. endless England Dan & John Ford Coley. eventually a fire starts and they die of poisonous vinyl fumes. all for only $25 a month --- thanks, kickstarter and #VYNL!
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 14 May 2015 20:19 (eight years ago) link
i've always wanted to buy a dog eared copies of Sesame Street's The Muppet Musicians of Bremen and a Perry Como compilation for 25 bucks
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 14 May 2015 20:19 (eight years ago) link
the best part of the kickstarter economy part of the story is that nobody bothered to see if pay-for-records is legal, so it's now technically pay-for-whatever
the fact that they have no actual curation and it's just backstock and secondhand garbage is icing
― ultimate american sock (mh), Thursday, 14 May 2015 20:26 (eight years ago) link
Quoting the owner:
“It fucking sucks when we disappoint our members. We honestly feel incredibly sad when a member doesn’t like what we sent. That sucks for them and also for us. It’s like you just spent all this time planning out what you think is an awesome surprise gift idea for someone and then they can’t mask the look of disappointment when they open it up right in front of you. It’s completely deflating. Unfortunately, this comes with the territory of being a human curated service."
I imagine in the back of his mind he's thinking: "Nailed it! Just got to stay in character, then nobody can call us out! It's all subjective, I'll say. As long as enough r/vinyl or Urban Outfitters type kids keep subscribing we should be just fine."
― Evan, Thursday, 14 May 2015 20:27 (eight years ago) link
If this was mine I'd just buy the contents of a record store that is going out of business with the kickstarter money and pay someone to put four random records that aren't too beat up in an envelope monthly
that'd be like a half-dozen kids working minimum wage for a couple days per month maximum right?
― ultimate american sock (mh), Thursday, 14 May 2015 20:29 (eight years ago) link
https://media.wnyc.org/media/photologue/images/a7/yourfavoritexmas3_firestone722.jpg
My #XmasVibes arrived! Nice clean copy. No flood damage!
― andrew m., Thursday, 14 May 2015 20:31 (eight years ago) link
^Might be U.S.-centric
― andrew m., Thursday, 14 May 2015 20:32 (eight years ago) link
I'm genuinely at a loss for words after reading the whole Stereogum story.
And a long, disappointed sigh at "kickstarter economy."
― austinato (Austin), Thursday, 14 May 2015 20:32 (eight years ago) link
guys, the people getting burned are college kids and their moms. it'll be ok
― k3vin k., Thursday, 14 May 2015 20:34 (eight years ago) link
haha, my grandparents had that Firestone record.
Ah, the days when major corporations had their own orchestras.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 14 May 2015 20:38 (eight years ago) link
i think gotvnyl retweeted a couple of zings they took at face value
https://twitter.com/aalupului/status/598895797841895424
― ceres, Thursday, 14 May 2015 20:39 (eight years ago) link
psst if you're actually looking for #XmasVibes this is my family's go-to thrift-store-level christmas record and it rules:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/91dwOvGB6TL._SX355_.jpg
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 14 May 2015 20:39 (eight years ago) link
if people are happy with the vinyl unearthed by vnyl's dig squad, well then i'm happy for them
― ceres, Thursday, 14 May 2015 20:40 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moEhGU3m3Ok
― pplains, Thursday, 14 May 2015 20:53 (eight years ago) link
Each box comes with an exclusive 7” vinyl, digital mixtape, three seasonal recipes, ingredients, and tasting notes. One past Pairing Box included recipes for simple tomato pizza with fennel pollen and clam, pancetta and arugula pizza paired with music by Local Natives.
― pplains, Thursday, 14 May 2015 20:54 (eight years ago) link
pizza delivered to your door, what will they think of next
wow thnx Vnyl!
http://eil.com/images/main/Jane-Olivor-Chasing-Rainbows-507207.jpg
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/81qqA4Z0UUL._SX355_.jpg
http://cdn.discogs.com/osmx-dv2q_8kkEG9xTuIP5JwBf0=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb()/discogs-images/R-3524427-1334069248.gif.jpg
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 14 May 2015 20:55 (eight years ago) link
why are all these twitter people bragging about how they got suckered
― italosVEVO (wins), Thursday, 14 May 2015 21:00 (eight years ago) link
Again, Gotvnyl is the parody account. They probably did that purposefully.
― MarkoP, Thursday, 14 May 2015 21:01 (eight years ago) link
I hadn't realized that regarding Doug Martsch earlier. They got me.
― Evan, Thursday, 14 May 2015 21:04 (eight years ago) link
ok. wax and stamp : last blog post : 18th dec 2014.
guess there was no kickstarter funding behind it then.
personally, i find this whole idea weird, but i am not target audience.i dig in the bins (cd, not scratchy vinyl !), and so, i don't need anyone else to help, but for those that do not have the time nor patience, then this sounds rather fun.that said, £30 a month is proper bonkers.if i was wanting a "digging in the vinyl bins" service, then it would have to be a tenner a month, max.
and yes, i know that would mean a constant supply of ray coniff/james last records, but hey ..
― mark e, Thursday, 14 May 2015 21:09 (eight years ago) link
Howard the Duck soundtrack fucking rules.
― turlte party (how's life), Thursday, 14 May 2015 21:15 (eight years ago) link
If they sent me the GOOD James Last record (Voodoo-Party) I'd be pretty stoked. But it wouldn't be that one.
― andrew m., Thursday, 14 May 2015 21:15 (eight years ago) link
"What happened to vinyl fans being diggers?"
most young/new vinyl buyers do NOT want to dig. they just want that old Smiths record right where they can see it as soon as they walk into a store.
― scott seward, Thursday, 14 May 2015 21:20 (eight years ago) link
Some enjoy targeted ads. It's nuts out there.
― andrew m., Thursday, 14 May 2015 21:22 (eight years ago) link
Looks like they're not even hiding where they're getting their records from:http://t.co/7y4ONBMhaW
― MarkoP, Thursday, 14 May 2015 21:23 (eight years ago) link
xxp In that case I'm going to start a new subscription service where, for a £45 fee per month (non-refundable), we not only select for our customers three random LPs a month, but we also don't send them out and instead listen to them for you as well!
― Hugh G. Wreckjoke (snoball), Thursday, 14 May 2015 21:24 (eight years ago) link
If they sent me the GOOD James Last record (Voodoo-Party) I'd be pretty stoked
recently released :
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/71FQHV19zeL._SL1200_.jpg
highly recommended.
― mark e, Thursday, 14 May 2015 21:24 (eight years ago) link
Howard the Duck soundtrack fucking rules
yeah, I honestly think that someone who sent me a copy of that record really would have nailed my #vibe exactly
― soref, Thursday, 14 May 2015 21:31 (eight years ago) link
not that cheap on discogs tbh
― Mr. Murphy in the wine bar. (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 14 May 2015 21:37 (eight years ago) link
Whoa whoa whoa, there's a good James Last album?!
― austinato (Austin), Thursday, 14 May 2015 22:30 (eight years ago) link
yup.
― mark e, Thursday, 14 May 2015 22:35 (eight years ago) link
tis very balaeric ..
― mark e, Thursday, 14 May 2015 22:36 (eight years ago) link
in an easy kind of groove of course .. not scanda-electronica ..
― mark e, Thursday, 14 May 2015 22:37 (eight years ago) link
a lazy saturday kinda of groove?
― Mr. Murphy in the wine bar. (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 14 May 2015 22:40 (eight years ago) link
shady saturdays are the best.
― mark e, Thursday, 14 May 2015 22:43 (eight years ago) link
Those folks at VNYL really should have considered throwing a #Balaeric vibe in there.
― MarkoP, Thursday, 14 May 2015 22:48 (eight years ago) link
the james last album that andrew mentioned is great! it's called voodoo party and has this awesome song on it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTH4aIqhunI
― yeovil knievel (NickB), Thursday, 14 May 2015 23:04 (eight years ago) link
^^^^soo good. why the crappy compilations/boxsets when there are such wonderful albums as this !
― mark e, Thursday, 14 May 2015 23:10 (eight years ago) link
I can't imagine what it must be like to work for VNYL. I feel like I couldn't physically bring myself to send out one of those packages, let alone handwrite a note about how I much I hope you, valued subscriber and fellow Beach House fan, appreciate these Lionel Richie and Michael Quatro albums.
I do have to wonder, though--what kinds of records did people think they'd be getting three of for $25 a month? Do people not realize that records tend to shoot up in price really fast as soon as they're (a) halfway decent and (b) not ubiquitous? And that halfway-decent, non-ubiquitous records are sufficiently scarce that sending three of them out to hundreds if not thousands of subscribers for a modest price every month is basically impossible?
Not that that justifies sending out crummy dollar-bin staples, which is really impressively shameless.
― JRN, Thursday, 14 May 2015 23:10 (eight years ago) link
I don’t know about vinyl, though, never found any cool discs digging thrift stores, possibly born too late
― brimstead, Wednesday, 22 November 2023 21:02 (five months ago) link
yeah we have St. Vincent De Paul for a good local org
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 21:13 (five months ago) link
my best thrift score in recent memory (i.e maybe 5 years ago) was a Mothers Of Invention album, the Buckingham/Nicks S/T, Miles Davis Quiet Nights, and T Rex Electric Warrior all together.
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 21:14 (five months ago) link
we have a local SVDP too, actually two. i agree that it's good people. also the scores there are way better across categories
― budo jeru, Wednesday, 22 November 2023 21:17 (five months ago) link
yes that score above was at SVDP, also the time I found a stash of like half a dozen mint Brazilian 45s from 1970-72, Veloso etc
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 21:19 (five months ago) link
Not quite getting what this is, exactly, but it probably belongs here: http://repress.qrates.com
― a full playlist of presidential sex jams (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, August 15, 2016 5:11 PM (seven years ago) bookmarkflaglink
if i'm reading this right they'll straight up bootleg anything?! wtf
― andrew m., Wednesday, November 2, 2016 4:20 PM (seven years ago) bookmarkflaglink
"QRATES gives artists, labels and brands the tools..."
It's aimed at artists and labels, not just random people. How much checking they do is open to question though.
― koogs, Thursday, November 3, 2016 4:46 AM (seven years ago) bookmarkflaglink
not going qreat...
https://www.reddit.com/r/vinyl/s/inBLbNHOsx
https://www.reddit.com/r/VinylReleases/comments/18lkvuz/just_a_reminder_do_not_buy_from_qrates/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CzkCDvkveh0/
― Evan, Tuesday, 19 December 2023 19:53 (four months ago) link
original url doesn't work so i'm having trouble understanding what this is
― budo jeru, Tuesday, 19 December 2023 19:59 (four months ago) link
It was service that pressed to vinyl anything you sent in to them (copyright be damned).
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 19 December 2023 20:08 (four months ago) link
sending in carrots
― Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 December 2023 20:38 (four months ago) link
i thought this was an interesting comment in the first reddit thread:
Qrates uses GZ Media as their pressing plant. GZ was known for being a “safe” plant for sample-based music. Lots of vaporwave artists got their stuff pressed there, for instance. Around June of this year, GZ started using AI technology to identify samples and require clearance documentation. A LOT of Qrates’ projects were sample-based music, and around the middle of this year, a lot of projects had to be mass-refunded. This is my speculation. Qrates ran out of money to get anything pressed because GZ Media started cracking down on samples, and they had to mass refund a bunch of projects and ran out of cash.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 19 December 2023 20:42 (four months ago) link
the sad thing about those reddit threads is just how many comments were basically, "whaaa! we should be able to press any sample we want, this is bullshit".
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 19 December 2023 20:45 (four months ago) link
― budo jeru, Tuesday, December 19, 2023 2:59 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
Ah I didn't realize that, here: https://qrates.com
― Evan, Tuesday, 19 December 2023 21:38 (four months ago) link
i have only ever made records by physically going somewhere and having lacquers cut, which you then would mail off to be plated. it always seemed to me like the places where you sent files w/ music and art were weird because surely you'd end up with a disappointing product? or maybe i'm just too cynical about the QC at these kinds of places, although this story . . .
― budo jeru, Tuesday, 19 December 2023 22:37 (four months ago) link
iirc, CZ does direct metal masters
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 00:31 (four months ago) link
i'm not saying it's not legit, nor do i think my caveman process is the only way. but i've only ever been able to make it happen by doing as much as i possibly could myself
― budo jeru, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 01:38 (four months ago) link
plus it's more fun that way
― budo jeru, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 01:39 (four months ago) link
I won't go as far as calling it a shady scam, but I can't image why anyone would want to listen to Feldman's String Quartet II, an extremely long and quiet piece, on vinyl. Any tiny flaw, pop, or crackle will likely be louder than the music, and you have to switch sides every 25 minutes. Oh, and the label only offers this recording on vinyl - no CD, download, or streaming. (Luckily there are two other recordings of the piece out there).
https://www.discogs.com/release/14771547-Morton-Feldman-Pellegrini-Quartet-String-Quartet-II
― Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapük), Monday, 11 March 2024 04:56 (one month ago) link