Rolling Marvel Cinematic Universe thread (+ a poll: Classic or Dud?)

Is that confirmed now? He was pretty good in Hugo and Ender's Game and I know they were looking for someone who was actually a teenager for a change.

Man, they're never gonna do Grown-Assed Spider-Man, are they?

“Marvel is courting Selma filmmaker Ava DuVernay to direct one of its diverse superhero movies.... Insiders suggest that Black Panther, due first in July 2018, is the most likely possibility.”

http://www.thewrap.com/marvel-courting-ava-duvernay-to-direct-diverse-superhero-movie-exclusive/

Tilda Swinton as the Ancient One in Strange — maybe.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/tilda-swinton-talks-join-benedict-798348

I used to want a Dr. Strange movie but now I don't anymore tbh

It's going to take a little shoehorning to fit Strange mysticism into the sleek teched-up vision of the MCU. The Thor films run into that problem as well. It suddenly occurred to me that an unmentioned but close comparable to the MCU is Doc Smith's "Lensmen" series.

I would be down with Ancient One Tilda; that's good casting

They were doing pretty well with the 'in my realm technology and magic are one and the same' thing until the mystical pool of whatever showed up in Avengers 2.

way to look for a Tibetan actor Hollywood

RUH-OH

That's an interesting Civil War rumour.

With love and respect, fuck off if you're not going to tell us what it is.

"Are they really megastars? Downey and Johansson maybe, but Cheadle and Ruffalo are perennial supporting actors, and the others are basically famous only because they play superheroes in these movies."

Not sure I would call them megastars, but Evans, Renner, Ruffalo, Cheadle, Jackson are all very recognizable actors who have a fair resumes outside of these films. Hemsworth is the only one who could credibly be said to be famous initially due to his Thor casting, but he's been in quite a bit since then and he's from a "ooh sexy young Aussie star family" to boot.

"fair resumes" /= megastars

is the thing

Ok Andrew, since you asked so nicely.

William Hurt is back as General Ross. But he might also be playing Ross' current alter-ego. The Rulk.

If he doesn't punch The Watcher I'll be disappointed, but seemingly he just punches The Hulk. "Like the Hulkbuster fight, but bigger."

god bless Ruffalo, but he is no megastar.

I guess I am not even sure who is a megastar anymore, but Avengers cast feels like a lot of pretty big egos at this point.

Downey, as noted, couldn't get the public to get much of an interest in The Judge. They're none of them a Bogart, or even Schwarzenegger - which is definitely to the Avengers's benefit.

(The closest is probably Jackson? But his egalitarian approach to what he'll appear in means very few people are going to turn up just because it's his name on a film)

xp thank you, Aldo! I would go see that (but then I will go see it anyway)

Even huge stars are in bombs that no one wants to see. Look back over Stallone's 80s filmography to see a choice few.

Although I guess the Judge was supposedly kinda good whereas Over The Top is uh not (or at best is good very ironically).

Rilliam Rurt as Ruh Rulk

Given only the choices of classic or dud it was impossible to vote for the first, so I was forced to vote the second.

Spidey choice allegedly down to final 3 but Marvel & Sony can't agree:

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2015/06/12/spider-man-rumor-asa-butterfield-no-longer-in-the-running-to-star?

make it happen marvel - the fans are crying out for it

http://images-cdn.moviepilot.com/image/upload/c_fill,h_1000,w_750/t_mp_quality/uploads_13a2abb3-ec2f-4919-a698-d0fc11668e74-spiderman-miles-jpg-16124.jpg

I assume we've all seen the news about Chiwetel Ejiofor playing Baron Mordo?

No dormammu?

Rosie O'Donnell as Dormammu

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEyMv-F9Y5c

Really curious about when people voted for this now - there would be a point (prob. after Guardians of the Galaxy) when I'd have expected it to be a landslide - even now, Age of Ultron stands head and shoulders above EG Jurassic World and Terminator Genisys as well-made blockbusters.

All three of those are well-enough made blockbusters, in the sense that Golden Grahams is a well-made breakfast cereal, but none of them are particularly strong movies. JP is entertaining despite itself, T5 no one was asking for, which leaves AoU the only disappointment, relatively speaking. There were a lot of expectations, and especially in hindsight I'm not sure many really feel it lived up to them.

Does Ant-Man open this weekend? I have no idea if anyone expects *anything* from that one. Though given my track record, maybe it will beat Jurassic World at the BO.

Quite good word of mouth on Ant Man so far.

The other two are terrible whenever anyone opens their mouths, which I don't feel should be a forgiveable fault in blockbusters. But then, most of the blockbusters I've seen over the last ten years have been - Marvel!

(No idea what disappointment has to do with anything except to underline that the general standard of MCU films is quite high).

Ant Man is the first superhero movie in a while I actually have an interest in seeing. From what I've read, it's basically going to be a heist movie, which is to me is likely to be much more enjoyable than the typical people with superpowers punching each other (although I realize there will also be some of that in this movie).

Wellllp, the FF reviews are coming in, and it looks like an even bigger dud than I would've imagined.

I like the cast, but the trailer looks so flat, like more Divergent/ YA fiction than superheroey. so I wasnt sure how it wd go over

the director has already disowned it

https://twitter.com/joshuatrank/status/629467936793559040

I never know how to feel abt that

Part of me feels like it's shitty to do that on release day. I totally get that that is a thing that happens & franchises are unwieldy beasts & movies are made by committee now but also...its not an indie movie & he knew that going in and hes not the only person who worked on the movie & maybe he should own his part in the end result instead of bragging NOW about the awesome unseen version he made? idk.

Since that's apparently been deleted

https://twitter.com/SamuelAAdams/status/629474307140415488

I'd like to be thread fascist and point out that this isn't MCU, but I'm not surprised no-one made a thread just for it - most of the discussion seems to have been in the Star Wars 7 thread!

Also yeah, by all accounts a lousy lousy film - 100 minutes long but they don't get their powers until after the first hour, missing most of the footage people were interested in (including the Thing-drop from the trailer), and establishing that "it's clobbering time" is actually something Ben Grimm's abusive older brother used to say below beating him up as a kid.

i do feel for the guy. matt zoller seitz kinda poignant here:

I have no idea why this movie is so terrible, only that it is terrible ... It's as if somebody took two pretty-decent feature length movies, broke them into pieces, and re-edited them into one film, but without any discernible plan beyond "get this down to 90 minutes." This is not a shortness issue, though. It's an everything issue ... The Marvel factory is indeed a factory, stamping out pre-sold intellectual property widgets with movie stars and the best visual effects that money can buy, but even their least ambitious products work. This one doesn't. It's defective, a discard, a huge ball of metal and plastic and spandex, all fused together. It's impossible to tell what it was supposed to be.

(of course the tone of that tweet is why we have the word unprofessional)

"it's clobbering time" is actually something Ben Grimm's abusive older brother used to say

well he is responsible for the overall direction of the Fox superhero movies

9% on Rotten Tomatoes now!

FF 'TRANKS' AT BOX OFFICE

In actual MCU "news," the cinematographer for Dr. Strange says it's going to be "dark" and "psychedelic." I'm going to be more interested in the sound design, myself. (Hoping for Lynchian/Spletian)