Spotify - anyone heard of it?

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thing is, however fast you're running, you should always be trying to keep your footstrike rate around 180bpm
Tiesto reaching back to his old hardcore days.

Siegbran, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 17:39 (eight years ago) link

I hear you, schwantz, and agree that there's a lot of room to do more with friends and other people's playlists.

glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 17:43 (eight years ago) link

all I want is to be able to search by username to find people. since I don't use FB, the only way (that I've figured out) for me to add a friend I know irl is to find a playlist they are following, and click on their profile through that. The same with friends who want to add me - they have to find some ILX playlist on their computer and search through all the users to get to my profile.

sleeve, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 17:46 (eight years ago) link

That is actually in the mobile app now, which I discovered after getting all huffy about it. Just input the user's name into the search dialog.

schwantz, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 17:51 (eight years ago) link

I only use the desktop one :(

sleeve, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 17:56 (eight years ago) link

It might work there too?

schwantz, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 18:01 (eight years ago) link

well I really don't want to update my version, but I'll check

sleeve, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 18:06 (eight years ago) link

Yes, you can search for people by username or actual name. In the desktop version, too!

If only every "all I want is..." were this easy...

glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 18:17 (eight years ago) link

I downgraded a while back to keep the apps (love the playlists.net app!), so I guess I lose out on this one.

schwantz, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 18:34 (eight years ago) link

I downgraded so I didn't have an enormous buggy piece of shit anymore, I am now v happy with my spotify experience and I wish them all the best with their innovative running features :-)

time trafel 2015 đź’¨ 2012 (wins), Wednesday, 20 May 2015 18:36 (eight years ago) link

friends! friends! friends! what are you doing. this is a fool's errand. give in & upgrade y'all

markers, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 19:25 (eight years ago) link

I'm personally sympathetic to people trying to hold out until Ctrl-F comes back...

glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 19:32 (eight years ago) link

nike fit did the whole hiring artist to make music for you to run to iirc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O84WZkbFaLc
de la soul too i think?

that's a pretty shitty audiosurf track

katherine, Thursday, 21 May 2015 17:40 (eight years ago) link

i don't see music that matches your running tempo really setting the world on fire as a music discovery mechanism. dunno i could be wrong. (surely even better would be morphing the beat, a la ableton live, so that whatever vaguely house-tempo dance music you're listening to automagically matches your footsteps?)

in general though the durability of radio (and linear television), and the rise of the subscribable playlist, really reinforces the fact that most people just want something handed to them on a silver platter rather than having to decide each invidivual thing. i wouldn't be surprised if netflix started a set of "channels" that serve up content automatically in an effort to mimic broadcast tv. i can't tell you the number of times i've fired up netflix, searched around for upwards of 15 minutes and then just turned the TV off out of fatigue.

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 21 May 2015 17:40 (eight years ago) link

although I just youtubed "audiosurf hardest track" and according to youtube's algorithm it is "thousand" by moby, so, uh

katherine, Thursday, 21 May 2015 17:43 (eight years ago) link

i can't tell you the number of times i've fired up netflix, searched around for upwards of 15 minutes and then just turned the TV off out of fatigue.

pretty much the modern equivalent of just flipping through the channels without actually watching anything.

I also do the same thing with music. Sometimes spend the majority of my time on public transport just trying to figure out what I want to listen to.

silverfish, Thursday, 21 May 2015 17:53 (eight years ago) link

spotify needs to curate more music for marathon f-zero sessions

Mr. Murphy in the wine bar. (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 21 May 2015 18:22 (eight years ago) link

tired of this slow bpm music fucking Captain Falcon's #vibe

Mr. Murphy in the wine bar. (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 21 May 2015 18:23 (eight years ago) link

tbf, antonio guster's theme hasn’t changed in nearly 15 years

Mr. Murphy in the wine bar. (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 21 May 2015 18:30 (eight years ago) link

i think the reason that's available readily in full on youtube is because it has the fig leaf of audiosurf, so that's why i linked
tbf, i think the "procedurally generated" elements of audiosurf were always very iffy; you can always adjust it to make everything easier or harder.

The point of matching your running pace isn't music discovery, it's enjoying your run.

glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 21 May 2015 23:54 (eight years ago) link

lol good point

i keep forgetting not everyone is a music nerd

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 21 May 2015 23:58 (eight years ago) link

Even music nerds are allowed to just enjoy a run without trying to collect anything during it.

That said, I've discovered quite a bit of music while working on this feature. But whereas "discovery" in other contexts often means "Oh, I am now going to go listen to all this artist's other stuff", with running music it can also be "I will put on the 145bpm reggaeton mix for pure listening pleasure after I get done with this 170bpm run".

glenn mcdonald, Friday, 22 May 2015 00:42 (eight years ago) link

for me it's more "are there artists who are not demonstrably horrible people [google moby] who can make the track tilt 180 DEGREES, WHAT" more than that, which probably says I need to get out more

katherine, Friday, 22 May 2015 03:20 (eight years ago) link

I'm a fast walker/"sprinter" anyway so I'm used to whatever I am listening to being quite a bit mistimed

katherine, Friday, 22 May 2015 03:21 (eight years ago) link

i can't run to anything under 200bpm

brimstead, Friday, 22 May 2015 05:14 (eight years ago) link

there is something about the utilitarian aspect of music that all the music services are trying to latch onto right now which just entirely rubs me the wrong way, i.e. music to cook dinner to, music to change a baby to, music to do burpees to, etc. i probably should relax and not care. that's how most people have treated music ever since the beginnings of radio.

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 22 May 2015 13:43 (eight years ago) link

what rubs me the wrong way is the homogeneity of it...music is functional and this should totally be celebrated but there's this almost authoritarian "THIS is running music, THAT is chilling-out music" about it all. dunno how many of you saw that repulsive "life milestones" infographic going round yesterday - the ages at which Everyone Is Meant to have their first kiss, rent with friends, rent with a partner, buy their first house, become a middle manager - total rat race stuff - but the spotify announcement seemed in much the same line. do this designated activity in this designated way to this designated music and then you'll be a decent member of middle-class western society.

(fwiw, several years ago i did a big project on running music, and interviewed several djs and producers for it, and i was really surprised at the range of answers and justifications i got - no, running music doesn't have to be at a particular bpm, everyone does it differently!)

(fwiw, as a music nerd and a runner, i don't listen to music at all when i run, because that's when i clear my head and get away from music that i spent most of my non-running life listening to) (also i get tangled up in my own headphones)

lex pretend, Friday, 22 May 2015 13:55 (eight years ago) link

also i am currently using spotify for once and if you're going to match anything up can you at least advertise music that has some vague resemblance to what i'm listening to? this caterwauling rock dude in the middle of my afropop, fuck off :(

lex pretend, Friday, 22 May 2015 13:56 (eight years ago) link

please link that infograph I didn't see it

Mordy, Friday, 22 May 2015 13:59 (eight years ago) link

yeah, running is actually my favorite time to listen to classical music! it's one of the few times i'm able to actually listen in detail and thoroughly get into it

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 22 May 2015 14:00 (eight years ago) link

also podcasts. maybe spotify could match the pace of my footfalls with appropriate spoken subject material.

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 22 May 2015 14:28 (eight years ago) link

There's something very Compilation Zeitgeist about those playlists, like they're designed to appeal to people who are a bit insecure about picking the appropriate social context for music. There's one called 'Hipster House Party' that surely no real hipster would touch with a bargepole.

Matt DC, Friday, 22 May 2015 14:44 (eight years ago) link

otm

Doctor Casino, Friday, 22 May 2015 15:42 (eight years ago) link

i listen to lots of songs while i jog that i would never listen to otherwise but it don't mean my tastes change completely

Right, so the "personal" running mode tries to pick songs that are both good for running to the beat, and either songs you've played a lot, or things we think are in the same vein as things you've played a lot. Nobody is trying to make you run to any particular music you don't like.

But the running app is very definitely for running to a beat. Lots of people run to music or podcasts or whatever, and there doesn't need to be any special mode for that. But if you want to run to the beat, it has been next to impossible historically, because you had no good way to even find a critical mass of songs at a given tempo to begin with, never mind how much you like them or how good they are for running.

glenn mcdonald, Friday, 22 May 2015 17:17 (eight years ago) link

Def in a Stereo Mood right now.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 22 May 2015 17:39 (eight years ago) link

Never say that Spotify won't listen to user complaints, the latest mobile update fixed the issue with connecting to BMW ConnectedDrive.

JoeStork, Saturday, 23 May 2015 16:20 (eight years ago) link

so is the running thing live yet or....? would like to try it.

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 15:15 (eight years ago) link

It's rolling out gradually, but you ought to have it soon.

glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 15:24 (eight years ago) link

NYT article yesterday about the Sony leak, no new information that I could see

sleeve, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 15:25 (eight years ago) link

Evidently the new windows version of spotify has playlist searching back? But not for local files. Mac version doesn't seem to have been updated yet.

Jeff, Wednesday, 27 May 2015 11:47 (eight years ago) link

Controlling my phone with the PC interface seems to work really well now. Which is great because it saves me from needing to buy a DAC for my laptop.

Mr. Murphy in the wine bar. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 27 May 2015 19:11 (eight years ago) link

Not being able to resize columns now is a reeeeeeal bummer

Spottie, Wednesday, 27 May 2015 22:03 (eight years ago) link

New mac version this morning has playlist filtering. Still totally incapable of handling my local music library though.

Jeff, Friday, 29 May 2015 12:11 (eight years ago) link

i'm trying to find the old spotify version from before the awful March upgrade. anybody have a link?

example (crĂĽt), Tuesday, 2 June 2015 04:23 (eight years ago) link


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