Shady scams and other silly business ideas to take advantage of earnest new vinyl collectors

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Wayne's World (the SNL skit not the movie) originally made the "suburbs" joke about Fleetwood Mac's Rumours. I wonder why they changed it for the movie?

Vic Perry, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 18:22 (eight years ago) link

on a video he made that is on the vnyl facebook page he says that he has an "elaborate record collection". maybe he made a maze out of his records. or a tree house.

― scott seward, Wednesday, May 20, 2015 1:27 PM (55 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

A rich mix of all sorts of different styles... of thrift shops and yard sales put together.

Evan, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 18:23 (eight years ago) link

Is it so hard for the VNYL guys to do the right thing? It seems that the scam is that they used the crowdfunding money to open a physical store instead of doing what they promised (possibly because they didn't consider the legal problems of their business model). Here,I'll fix their 'business' in four steps:

1. Give a public statement. You fucked up, you didn't realize it was illegal to trade records like that. Ask customers to hold on to those records you got, we'll make it up to you.
2. Open your physical store and create a user friendly online store.
3. Actually start answering all the complaints. If you hated those three awful bin records we sent you, we will you a chance to choose any new, under $20 vinyl record on our store for free as an apology.

4. If people want to keep their 'subscription', offer discounts worth their subscription every month in your online store or copy working models: A good example I can think of: for $27/month 'Vinyl Me, Please' gives you a limited edition vinyl just for VMP customers, original 12" x 12" art print, and a custom cocktail pairing. It might sound stupid and granted, it's not for everyone but a friend is subscribed and he gets some hard to find, cool vinyls more often than not. I personally think finding music is what's the internet is for and having strangers send you random records of their choosing is the least cheap way to find new music but whatever, it seems like VNYL is inspired by this sort of business stores but instead of doing something cool with it they just fucked up.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 20 May 2015 18:24 (eight years ago) link

*we will give you a chance

I accidentaly a word.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 20 May 2015 18:25 (eight years ago) link

I don't have "Frampton comes alive"

Mark G, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 18:30 (eight years ago) link

i think a well-curated small label-centric indie rock record club could do really well. and be cool. so much crap comes out every month i'll bet people would be happy to get a box of new chillwave records in the mail that were actually smartly picked. and you could even have a tape club too! at least 500 indie tapes are made every day. heck, i would sign up for a noise tape of the month club.

scott seward, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 18:34 (eight years ago) link

I was thinking about that too. There has to be some demand for a well done service like that - but it's a $75/month proposition right? The key to the VNYL business model getting some initial traction (other than dissembling about the product) is undeniably the low price point.

skip, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 18:49 (eight years ago) link

the vinylmeplease thing is basically that, but they went with 1/3 the records instead of tripling the monthly price.

Mr. Murphy in the wine bar. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 20 May 2015 18:54 (eight years ago) link

they are also customized releases in some way. problem is that many of these could have been purchased from an urban outfitters 50% off bin at some point (or at least I got Donuts that way).

Mr. Murphy in the wine bar. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 20 May 2015 18:57 (eight years ago) link

would probably work better to just commit to treating yourself to one new record from your local store once a month. just ask the guy at the counter, maybe.

Mr. Murphy in the wine bar. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 20 May 2015 18:59 (eight years ago) link

you could do 2 LPs + 1 7-inch + 1 tape.

for 40 bucks a month?

and make money doing it?

if you got good wholesale prices from labels?

there are question marks involved.

scott seward, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 19:01 (eight years ago) link

be kinda cool to get two records and a single and a tape every month. like christmas sorta. good packaging would be key.

scott seward, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 19:02 (eight years ago) link

would probably work better to just commit to treating yourself to one new record from your local store once a month. just ask the guy at the counter, maybe.

well maybe that's a business idea: for 30$ a month we will take you to a record store and you get to pick one for free, it's on us

moans and feedback (Dinsdale), Wednesday, 20 May 2015 19:15 (eight years ago) link

throw in a cheese sandwich and we've got a deal

Mr. Murphy in the wine bar. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 20 May 2015 19:23 (eight years ago) link

made the mistake of looking at the old dollar bin thread. just depressing to see what previously was dollar bin cheap.

Mr. Murphy in the wine bar. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 20 May 2015 19:37 (eight years ago) link

Really wish I had thought of this first. Records are under a dollar at most thrift stores if you go on the right days, profit margins are probably insane.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 20 May 2015 19:52 (eight years ago) link

Sure, when you're scamming people.

Evan, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 19:55 (eight years ago) link

just ask the guy at the counter, maybe.

Yeah, imagine that: ask a human being.

In my experience, most record store employees will be ecstatic to give recommendations.

austinato (Austin), Wednesday, 20 May 2015 20:23 (eight years ago) link

Still waiting for something, anything from VNYL clowns.

austinato (Austin), Wednesday, 20 May 2015 20:24 (eight years ago) link

They've been selling t-shirts on Instagram - $35, no returns. they definitely seem dedicated to the #keepem business model.

a silly gif of awkward larping (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 20 May 2015 21:50 (eight years ago) link

somehow that infuriates me even more than the "sell a beat up dollar record for $8" scam

sleeve, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 21:53 (eight years ago) link

Wayne: Exqueese me? Have I seen this one before? "Frampton Comes Alive"? Everybody in the world has Frampton Comes Alive. If you lived in the suburbs you were issued it. It came in the mail with samples of "Tide".

"Frampton Comes Alive" was the "Songs of Innocence" of the '70s

Lee626, Thursday, 21 May 2015 00:46 (eight years ago) link

I recommend "Seven Year Itch."

Oh my god.

http://i57.tinypic.com/2vb3qqx.jpg

File under #BlueEyedSshole

Luc Skyferrari (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 21 May 2015 04:00 (eight years ago) link

uh Dire Straits is still $4

Mr. Murphy in the wine bar. (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 00:51 (eight years ago) link

After tweeting multiple times per day for weeks, the @getvnyl twitter has been silent since May 15.

skip, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 19:04 (eight years ago) link

decapitated by the high velocity discus toss of rancid Englebert Humperdinck platters

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 19:06 (eight years ago) link

one day after this thread was started, hmmm...

sleeve, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 19:07 (eight years ago) link

they live

https://instagram.com/p/3HnuJGHeux/?taken-by=getvnyl

da croupier, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 19:09 (eight years ago) link

it's so great how they share pics of vinyl records they'll never make available to their subscribers on instagram

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 19:10 (eight years ago) link

subscribers will never get brand new in any sense

Mr. Murphy in the wine bar. (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 19:12 (eight years ago) link

some good comments to that effect on the 'gram, lol #vnyl

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 19:15 (eight years ago) link

It'll still get sold to venture capitalists anyway.

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 22:09 (eight years ago) link

In true #vnyl fashion, the critical comments on that Instagram picture have all been deleted since this afternoon. If you look at some of the most recent Tweets from subscribers, they've received newer records -- at least two people got records by some band called DeLuxe (no idea), but then you can't see if the other two are Firestone Xmas records or what.

a-lo, Wednesday, 27 May 2015 03:30 (eight years ago) link

the other two are Julian Lennon's Valotte and the McDonald's Menu Song floppy

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Wednesday, 27 May 2015 04:49 (eight years ago) link

From what I can tell, De Luxe is a new, potentially unsigned, band that's given Vnyl promos.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 27 May 2015 14:18 (eight years ago) link

http://www.discogs.com/Fugees-Featuring-A-Tribe-Called-Quest-Busta-Rhymes-And-Forte-Rumble-In-The-Jungle/release/184689

Someone got that. Granted, it's $.54 on Discogs.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 27 May 2015 14:19 (eight years ago) link

From what I can tell, De Luxe is a new, potentially unsigned, band that's given Vnyl promos.

amazing

the geographibebebe (unregistered), Wednesday, 27 May 2015 14:21 (eight years ago) link

xp $.54 for the cd. it's a respectable $4 for the 12". Only 100% markup? a #vnylscore!

Mr. Murphy in the wine bar. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 27 May 2015 14:25 (eight years ago) link

The 12" single play makes a lot of sense for #vnyl b/c a) like the chud they've been sending out, 90s singles are fairly plentiful at thrifts or wherever they're sourcing this stuff and b) millenial record noobs could very well get excited about something like an I Believe I Can Fly 12" (16 for sale from $1.95 - discogs). This guy is a genius.

a-lo, Wednesday, 27 May 2015 14:56 (eight years ago) link

Yes 90s singles are everywhere. I am kicking myself daily for passing up a Destiny's Child vinyl I saw a month ago. It was less than $2!

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 27 May 2015 14:59 (eight years ago) link

Well I did get quite excited a few months ago when I found a copy of the 12" single for En Vogue's My Lovin for a dollar at my local thrift store amongst the usual Barbra Streisand and Nana Mouskouri albums.

MarkoP, Wednesday, 27 May 2015 15:03 (eight years ago) link

En Vogue's My Lovin for a dollar at my local thrift store amongst the usual Barbra Streisand and Nana Mouskouri albums

#betweenthesheets

a silly gif of awkward larping (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 27 May 2015 19:19 (eight years ago) link

It'll still get sold to venture capitalists anyway.

Very true. Very asinine.

austinato (Austin), Wednesday, 27 May 2015 20:07 (eight years ago) link

i got 4 out of 6 on this using built in laptop speakers. nice to know i'm not deaf. definitely heard differences that were small.

http://www.npr.org/sections/therecord/2015/06/02/411473508/how-well-can-you-hear-audio-quality

scott seward, Wednesday, 3 June 2015 15:29 (eight years ago) link

ha, my sister just sent me that link this morning, have not tried it yet

sleeve, Wednesday, 3 June 2015 15:33 (eight years ago) link

https://instagram.com/p/3K4rK0JnUB/

Frank 4ad (NickB), Wednesday, 3 June 2015 15:46 (eight years ago) link

https://twitter.com/Bluelissa/status/603397177977622528

Frank 4ad (NickB), Wednesday, 3 June 2015 15:46 (eight years ago) link

oof: https://instagram.com/p/213M0_royx/

Frank 4ad (NickB), Wednesday, 3 June 2015 15:53 (eight years ago) link

The De Lux thing might be even sleazier than sending people dollar bin albums?

skip, Wednesday, 3 June 2015 15:59 (eight years ago) link


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