MAD MEN on AMC - Seasons 7(a) & & 7(b)

(sorry i was drinking before watching)

i like how advising people to abandon everything, even their children, and "move forward" is such a "thing" with don

this new guy with joan is so needy and pass ag he sucks

spoiler alert:

http://time.com/3891861/mad-men-finale-don-draper-jon-hamm-matthew-weiner-coke-ad-recap/

damn that's a surprise, i thought they'd skillfully duped the 95 per cent of people who weren't willfully contrarian enough to assume the flagrantly obvious literal ending was in fact what happened, just for the hell of it.

can they confirm betty did actually have cancer though? and that lane is dead?

i mean did we see lane being buried?

"But he did ask David Chase about if Peggy would ever confess to Pete about the baby, and if it’d be difficult for her to then look at kids. “She will have a psychological scar,” Chase told Weiner, who then decided that Pete would stay in the dark."

Wait what? Doesn't she reveal this to Pete way way back in Season 2??!?!?!

If you look at the clock on the wall when Stan and Peggy are confessing to one another, you can see it's clearly wrong which proves they have passed into an alternate timeline.

Also, Stan is Peggy's baby.

maybe weiner is bluffing

i'd like to actually hear him saying the words in that interview - it's hard to detect nuance in text, we can't be sure he wasn't telling mad men truthers that we're on the right track, i mean if you read between the lines.

"Meditations in an Emergency" October 26, 2008
Don finally returns from his trip to California in the middle of the hysteria generated by the Cuban Missile Crisis. Betty receives the news that she is pregnant, but before reconciling with Don and telling him the news, she engages in a brief sexual encounter with a stranger. Pete tells Peggy that he loves her and in response, Peggy informs him that he fathered a child with her, and she gave it away.

text message received: "She will have a psychological scar"

hmmmm. nah.

"thanks david, your advice is a guiding light for me."

it's here starting @ abt ~19m -- bad job by the Time recapper -- he never sez anything close to pete will stay in the dark afaict

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSgXSWj6shk

Shitty Time transcribers.

this paragraph does not compute, sorry:

Yes, Don Draper created the Coke ad. The last scenes of the series features Don hugging a stranger at a retreat and meditating with hippies, before the episode cuts to the 1971 Coca-Cola “Hilltop” commercial, to infer that Don returns to McCann-Erickson and creates that ad. “I have never been clear, and I have always been able to live with ambiguities,” said Weiner. “In the abstract, I did think, why not end this show with the greatest commercial ever made? In terms of what it means to people and everything, I am not ambiguity for ambiguity’s sake. But it was nice to have your cake and eat it too, in terms of what is advertising, who is Don and what is that thing?”

god just stop

And the idea that someone in an enlightened state might have created something that’s very pure — yeah, there’s soda in there with a good feeling, but that ad to me is the best ad ever made, and it comes from a very good place.

ha ok

"This article was originally published on Hollywood Reporter"

love this part from the Mad Style recap:

Like his ability to predict Kennedy’s electoral win because he was a rockstar and his ability to see that African-Americans were a viable and extremely important market, typically forward-thinking Pete dropped an absolute truth bomb on Peggy. It’ll take ten years, but eventually, society’s going to catch up to where Peggy is and recognize her for the insane talent she possesses.

I never thought about his comment to Peggy as being just another example of Pete's progressiveness, but yeah it's actually true to character.

v much so

that was not actually shot at Big Sur, even though it was supposed to be Big Sur

?

http://www.montereycountyweekly.com/blogs/arts_culture_blog/jon-hamm-sightings-and-mad-men-shooting-in-big-sur/article_fbec2678-fd59-11e3-94e5-001a4bcf6878.html

that part near the water didn't look familiar. other parts of those scenes did.

Or Don discovers his true self and ... he's an ad man! Gets home refreshed, sits in on the Coke meeting and says, "Picture a bluff, overlooking the ocean ..."

― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Sunday, May 17, 2015 11:33 PM

If you weren't looking in the night of, tipsy had this figured out within 15 minutes. I missed it altogether until his post.

http://i.imgur.com/JrdImbJ.jpg

I love the internet.

does anyone else still feel empty inside

finale was the height of internet discussion for like five days and now *tumbleweeds*

omg i miss roger

I'm fine

i don't mean to piss on your pain but i was very happy not to have mad men on last week. it was like i had been gifted an hour of life.

wouldn't mind watching the whole show from the beginning (I've forgotten a lot of s1-3) but I can wait

I might be able to persuade husband to watch it with me from the start now that he knows the whole thing has a satisfactory ending.

wouldn't mind watching the whole show from the beginning (I've forgotten a lot of s1-3) but I can wait

we started this last year after our baby was born and we had many hours of sleepless exhaustion at our disposal. it was good! we got as far as S5 and are now giving that a ""rescreen"".

Man how can someone put so much work into designing that "Not Great, Bob!" poster but still misspell FOUR of the actors' names, including one of the ones above the title?

Not only that: "putting the fun in dysfuctional."

Perhaps he's called Bob and it's actually quite meta.

Had a dream last night that Matt Weiner had trolled us all by secretly creating a REAL final episode, and airing it with no great fanfare in a different timeslot. I spent much of the broadcast complaining to my fellow viewing companions about the deception to really pay much attention (and they were talking a lot as well) so I can only remember three scenes:

- Sally and a bunch of her friends in a family-style restaurant, trying to find a table
- Dow Chemical guy explaining to Roger that when two snakes are trying to eat each other, you don't want to be the one that's smiling while the other's too busy EATING to smile
- Final scene Don and Betty driving away on motorcycles, through the outskirts of Phoenix or somewhere. Don wearing his denims, didn't notice Betty's outfit.

Clem--pick a final song for this dream.

I've never heard Genesis' "Return of the Giant Hogweed," but I've been making jokes about it for a couple of decades, so now I want to put it to use.

i've suspected for a while and had my suspicions confirmed by the final episode that matthew weiner himself was the least interesting/most frustrating part of mad men. so much onscreen and behind-the-scenes talent and insight always threatening to be brought down by sentimental boomerism.

i *love* my cynical interpretation of the ending and weiner being like "oh, you hipsters with your negativity, that coke commercial is EVERYTHING" -- sigh.

"- Dow Chemical guy explaining to Roger that when two snakes are trying to eat each other, you don't want to be the one that's smiling while the other's too busy EATING to smile"

Is this a classic story or something?? If not that's a very cool thing to think in a dream.

That whole post is great, but I especially hope a show does this sometime:

Had a dream last night that Matt Weiner had trolled us all by secretly creating a REAL final episode, and airing it with no great fanfare in a different timeslot.

It's like doing a Beyonce on a TV show. Like, just sneak another one in on a Tuesday at 11 a.m. on AMC and see who notices.

xxpost

No, I guess it's something my subconscious thought up. But it does faintly recall Don's convo with Conrad Hilton where he mentions snakes that choke on their prey after months without eating, so maybe that's a subliminal source.

xp i think that's part of what what got everybody so hyped on too many cooks

i thought this was good: http://michaelmaslin.com/inkspill/new-yorker-cartoonist-joe-dator-tells-us-about-the-cartoons-on-peggy-olsons-wall/

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHP0vmCUYAACDxt.jpg

http://www.rollingstone.com/tv/news/mad-men-creator-coke-ad-finale-planned-from-beginning-20150821