"Are they really megastars? Downey and Johansson maybe, but Cheadle and Ruffalo are perennial supporting actors, and the others are basically famous only because they play superheroes in these movies."
Not sure I would call them megastars, but Evans, Renner, Ruffalo, Cheadle, Jackson are all very recognizable actors who have a fair resumes outside of these films. Hemsworth is the only one who could credibly be said to be famous initially due to his Thor casting, but he's been in quite a bit since then and he's from a "ooh sexy young Aussie star family" to boot.
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 2 June 2015 21:34 (eight years ago) link
"fair resumes" /= megastars
is the thing
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 June 2015 21:36 (eight years ago) link
Ok Andrew, since you asked so nicely.
William Hurt is back as General Ross. But he might also be playing Ross' current alter-ego. The Rulk.
― the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Tuesday, 2 June 2015 21:38 (eight years ago) link
If he doesn't punch The Watcher I'll be disappointed, but seemingly he just punches The Hulk. "Like the Hulkbuster fight, but bigger."
― the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Tuesday, 2 June 2015 21:40 (eight years ago) link
god bless Ruffalo, but he is no megastar.
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 2 June 2015 21:40 (eight years ago) link
I guess I am not even sure who is a megastar anymore, but Avengers cast feels like a lot of pretty big egos at this point.
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 2 June 2015 21:41 (eight years ago) link
Downey, as noted, couldn't get the public to get much of an interest in The Judge. They're none of them a Bogart, or even Schwarzenegger - which is definitely to the Avengers's benefit.
(The closest is probably Jackson? But his egalitarian approach to what he'll appear in means very few people are going to turn up just because it's his name on a film)
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 2 June 2015 21:41 (eight years ago) link
xp thank you, Aldo! I would go see that (but then I will go see it anyway)
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 2 June 2015 21:42 (eight years ago) link
Even huge stars are in bombs that no one wants to see. Look back over Stallone's 80s filmography to see a choice few.
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 2 June 2015 21:43 (eight years ago) link
Although I guess the Judge was supposedly kinda good whereas Over The Top is uh not (or at best is good very ironically).
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 2 June 2015 21:49 (eight years ago) link
Rilliam Rurt as Ruh Rulk
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 2 June 2015 23:11 (eight years ago) link
Given only the choices of classic or dud it was impossible to vote for the first, so I was forced to vote the second.
― Aimless, Wednesday, 3 June 2015 02:58 (eight years ago) link
Spidey choice allegedly down to final 3 but Marvel & Sony can't agree:
http://uk.ign.com/articles/2015/06/12/spider-man-rumor-asa-butterfield-no-longer-in-the-running-to-star?
― groovypanda, Friday, 12 June 2015 19:03 (eight years ago) link
make it happen marvel - the fans are crying out for it
http://images-cdn.moviepilot.com/image/upload/c_fill,h_1000,w_750/t_mp_quality/uploads_13a2abb3-ec2f-4919-a698-d0fc11668e74-spiderman-miles-jpg-16124.jpg
― bizarro gazzara, Friday, 12 June 2015 19:05 (eight years ago) link
I assume we've all seen the news about Chiwetel Ejiofor playing Baron Mordo?
― No Darts Or Chasms In The Classroom (Old Lunch), Friday, 12 June 2015 19:28 (eight years ago) link
No dormammu?
― a silly gif of awkward larping (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 12 June 2015 19:58 (eight years ago) link
Rosie O'Donnell as Dormammu
― Οὖτις, Friday, 12 June 2015 20:02 (eight years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Thursday, 16 July 2015 00:01 (eight years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Friday, 17 July 2015 00:01 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEyMv-F9Y5c
― dutch_justice, Friday, 17 July 2015 00:52 (eight years ago) link
Really curious about when people voted for this now - there would be a point (prob. after Guardians of the Galaxy) when I'd have expected it to be a landslide - even now, Age of Ultron stands head and shoulders above EG Jurassic World and Terminator Genisys as well-made blockbusters.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 17 July 2015 10:57 (eight years ago) link
All three of those are well-enough made blockbusters, in the sense that Golden Grahams is a well-made breakfast cereal, but none of them are particularly strong movies. JP is entertaining despite itself, T5 no one was asking for, which leaves AoU the only disappointment, relatively speaking. There were a lot of expectations, and especially in hindsight I'm not sure many really feel it lived up to them.
Does Ant-Man open this weekend? I have no idea if anyone expects *anything* from that one. Though given my track record, maybe it will beat Jurassic World at the BO.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 17 July 2015 12:07 (eight years ago) link
Quite good word of mouth on Ant Man so far.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Friday, 17 July 2015 12:12 (eight years ago) link
The other two are terrible whenever anyone opens their mouths, which I don't feel should be a forgiveable fault in blockbusters. But then, most of the blockbusters I've seen over the last ten years have been - Marvel!
(No idea what disappointment has to do with anything except to underline that the general standard of MCU films is quite high).
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 17 July 2015 12:13 (eight years ago) link
Ant Man is the first superhero movie in a while I actually have an interest in seeing. From what I've read, it's basically going to be a heist movie, which is to me is likely to be much more enjoyable than the typical people with superpowers punching each other (although I realize there will also be some of that in this movie).
― silverfish, Friday, 17 July 2015 12:49 (eight years ago) link
Wellllp, the FF reviews are coming in, and it looks like an even bigger dud than I would've imagined.
― Off Pudding (Old Lunch), Friday, 7 August 2015 01:19 (eight years ago) link
I like the cast, but the trailer looks so flat, like more Divergent/ YA fiction than superheroey. so I wasnt sure how it wd go over
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 7 August 2015 01:49 (eight years ago) link
the director has already disowned it
https://twitter.com/joshuatrank/status/629467936793559040
― the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Friday, 7 August 2015 01:52 (eight years ago) link
I never know how to feel abt that
Part of me feels like it's shitty to do that on release day. I totally get that that is a thing that happens & franchises are unwieldy beasts & movies are made by committee now but also...its not an indie movie & he knew that going in and hes not the only person who worked on the movie & maybe he should own his part in the end result instead of bragging NOW about the awesome unseen version he made? idk.
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 7 August 2015 02:04 (eight years ago) link
Since that's apparently been deleted
https://twitter.com/SamuelAAdams/status/629474307140415488
― the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Friday, 7 August 2015 02:21 (eight years ago) link
I'd like to be thread fascist and point out that this isn't MCU, but I'm not surprised no-one made a thread just for it - most of the discussion seems to have been in the Star Wars 7 thread!
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 7 August 2015 05:43 (eight years ago) link
Also yeah, by all accounts a lousy lousy film - 100 minutes long but they don't get their powers until after the first hour, missing most of the footage people were interested in (including the Thing-drop from the trailer), and establishing that "it's clobbering time" is actually something Ben Grimm's abusive older brother used to say below beating him up as a kid.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 7 August 2015 05:49 (eight years ago) link
i do feel for the guy. matt zoller seitz kinda poignant here:
I have no idea why this movie is so terrible, only that it is terrible ... It's as if somebody took two pretty-decent feature length movies, broke them into pieces, and re-edited them into one film, but without any discernible plan beyond "get this down to 90 minutes." This is not a shortness issue, though. It's an everything issue ... The Marvel factory is indeed a factory, stamping out pre-sold intellectual property widgets with movie stars and the best visual effects that money can buy, but even their least ambitious products work. This one doesn't. It's defective, a discard, a huge ball of metal and plastic and spandex, all fused together. It's impossible to tell what it was supposed to be.
― playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Friday, 7 August 2015 06:05 (eight years ago) link
(of course the tone of that tweet is why we have the word unprofessional)
― playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Friday, 7 August 2015 06:09 (eight years ago) link
"it's clobbering time" is actually something Ben Grimm's abusive older brother used to say
― a silly gif of awkward larping (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 7 August 2015 06:16 (eight years ago) link
well he is responsible for the overall direction of the Fox superhero movies
― Number None, Friday, 7 August 2015 06:22 (eight years ago) link
9% on Rotten Tomatoes now!
― Number None, Friday, 7 August 2015 06:24 (eight years ago) link
FF 'TRANKS' AT BOX OFFICE
― a silly gif of awkward larping (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 7 August 2015 06:35 (eight years ago) link
In actual MCU "news," the cinematographer for Dr. Strange says it's going to be "dark" and "psychedelic." I'm going to be more interested in the sound design, myself. (Hoping for Lynchian/Spletian)
― rack of lamb of god (WilliamC), Friday, 7 August 2015 15:09 (eight years ago) link
Finally a dark take on comic book heroes.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 7 August 2015 15:34 (eight years ago) link
Could be appropriate in this case. I hope they showcase actual demons and Mindless Ones and other weird Lovecraftian shit.
― Off Pudding (Old Lunch), Friday, 7 August 2015 15:42 (eight years ago) link
i want ditko strange goddammit, give me dali-esque backgrounds and slim, squinting men
― let's not get too excited w/ the ouches (forksclovetofu), Friday, 7 August 2015 15:49 (eight years ago) link
i want ditko strange goddammit
it's off to the "out of context" thread we go
― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Friday, 7 August 2015 15:50 (eight years ago) link
Would have been more interesting if he'd said bright and psychedelic instead of dark and psychedelic, but 100+ micrograms of Ditko is called for either way.
xp lol
― rack of lamb of god (WilliamC), Friday, 7 August 2015 15:52 (eight years ago) link
what can i say, i like em slim and squinting
― let's not get too excited w/ the ouches (forksclovetofu), Friday, 7 August 2015 15:53 (eight years ago) link
i think seitz knows this wasn't made by the marvel factory, but as he never mentions fox in the piece i think it could be clearer
― da croupier, Friday, 7 August 2015 16:04 (eight years ago) link
fuckin bananas that they don't get their powers until more than half-way into the movie
― da croupier, Friday, 7 August 2015 16:06 (eight years ago) link
AFAICT, the new FF movie essentially exists for the same reason that the original Corman FF does. Has there ever been a rights-retention spite production that was also a decent movie?
― Off Pudding (Old Lunch), Friday, 7 August 2015 16:11 (eight years ago) link
http://news.blog.gustavus.edu/files/2012/04/Origin-Story.jpg
― let's not get too excited w/ the ouches (forksclovetofu), Friday, 7 August 2015 16:12 (eight years ago) link
also fuckin bananas that ACTION SEQUENCES in the trailer aren't in the movie - supercurious to know why one would decide cut those out of a superhero movie
― da croupier, Friday, 7 August 2015 16:13 (eight years ago) link