2015 nba finals: golden state warriors of oakland versus the cleveland cavaliers of cleveland

dubs need to pull this out in order to shut phil jackson up

agreed x 1,000

looking at offensive stats, green and barnes are killing the warriors, yeesh.

i didn't see all of the game last night but fully support dusting off david lee, they're getting nothing on offense from the entire frontcourt and that's just not going to work.

part of me thinks maybe the dubs should consider rotating help onto lebron a little more often when he moves into the paint bc at this pt no cav is lights out from 3 and it seems like they're giving away a lot inside. but it also seems true that the cavs entire offensive game plan is to get the ball in brons hands to either pass out of the double or back down whoever so idk.

they shd def be brining some more hard doubles, more variety of looks imo

ball denial, traps etc

and they just cant let barnes guard him 1on1 hes getting destroyed

yeah i'd start iggy and maybe lee, as crazy as that sounds

with lee you worry about them getting shredded on defense but he's at least a competent offensive player. bogut and draymondo look like such stiffs right now

concepcion on dellavedova:

He’s got a career PER of 9.6. Right now, as you sit at your desk or cubicle or breakfast nook or whatever, your PER is probably closer to Delly’s than Delly’s is to LeBron’s career 27.7 PER. His elite skill is that opponents look at him and go, “How the fuck is this even happening?”

how much money did you lose k3v xp

― 龜, Wednesday, June 10, 2015 12:21 AM (10 hours ago)

not enough to care, but winning money is better than losing money. plus it's just the principle of the thing -- what's happening seems to be defying the laws of basketball

xxp maybe also that works as a motivator to draymond and barnes to figure shit out?

yeah i'd start iggy and maybe lee, as crazy as that sounds

― k3vin k., Wednesday, June 10, 2015 10:39 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

id consider a iggy-lee-dray frontcourt

yeah that might work, but they'll probably get killed on the offensive glass

none of this should matter because the warriors are so much better! why are we even discussing this

its just... life idk man

if the warriors get nothign from draymond i'm not sure they're going to win the series, i would still run him out there and hope he unlocks it

i think one of golden state's biggest problems right now is that everyone went into the series thinking they had three guys to throw at lebron and it turns out they only have igoudala, who has been doing a great job but if the series goes 6 or 7 games i wonder how long he can keep banging with lebron in the post without disintegrating

yeah i think you gotta run with draymond but barnes needs to sit prob

the warriors problems on defense pale in comparison to their problems on offense though, like if you can't top 96 points i don't even know

there are tickets for game 5 going for 18.6k right now

yeah & to that end kerr needs to leave his fingerprints on this series somehow. there were so many offensive trips especially early in the game last night where the possession was one pass and then a contested shot. idk if he has to make strategic adjustments or just find out how to reset his players mentally, but fundamentally we're not watching the same team.

right, i know he's shrugged off changing the starting lineup before but he needs to not be afraid to do that.

i think one of golden state's biggest problems right now is that everyone went into the series thinking they had three guys to throw at lebron and it turns out they only have igoudala, who has been doing a great job but if the series goes 6 or 7 games i wonder how long he can keep banging with lebron in the post without disintegrating

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 10 June 2015 14:48 (6 minutes ago) Permalink

whose juice is stronger? as hard as it is to defend bron in the post, it is also physically demanding to be bron in the post 40 mins a game. he clearly gets gassed midway through the fourth and starts tossing up 3s/perimeter shots and those haven't been landing enough to be a concern (except possibly last night) and playing all but 3-5 mins of each game has to take some kind of toll.

agreed that its mostly the dubs offense thats the problem, like brons scored a ton but not efficiently

fatigue is about to hit bron and mozgov haaaard, shit it sent delly to the hospital (and much as i dislike his play that sux)

its good that he has been sent to the hospital and hopefully he will die imo

lol hellz no, DELLY is giving these finals maximum entertainment value

i hate him so much

i want to murder him

i wld destroy the world just to ensure his death

as sociological study he's invaluable

and as such makes me want to ascend from this earth

Working on a new game like bananagrams but each tile has 'del', 'la', 'va', or 'do' on it. You win by forming the grittiest sounding scrub baller name with your randomly chosen tiles. The tiles are stored in a fabric wallaby pouch or something.

xxp what do you mean exactly?

(asking bc this idea intrigues and horrifies me)

Don't forget that the curry klay iggy lee bogut starting 5 was the best (or one of the best) starting 5 in the nba last year. I'm all for it

bogut seems... injured

if u were choking for five straight days u'd prob end up injured too

tru cld be a throat injury

Greens got a back prob since that fall trying block lebron whatever game that was but not sure boguts hurt. Just needs to pull his head out of his ass.

its good that he has been sent to the hospital and hopefully he will die imo

― lag∞n, Wednesday, June 10, 2015 11:17 AM (36 minutes ago) Bookmark

strongly agree

this thread is pretty hilarious all around over the past few days, with this as the peak so far:

I'm aware they're playing badly. psychology has to be a part of it at this point, like what physical explanation for a team this good to fall prey to a team that isn't objectively playing "well" other than I guess defensively

― slothroprhymes, Tuesday, June 9, 2015 8:37 PM

"what explanation is there for this team playing so poorly other than the other team is doing a great job of stopping their offense?"

sure ok

i acknowledged that and also made room for the possibility that they might be kind of shook, which sucks

when a horribly taken shot goes in can you not say that it was poorly taken (like almost every shot matthew dellavedova has taken) or does it going in objectively make it good somehow i think there's still room for criticism

and frustration - that a style that shouldn't in a vacuum work in 2015's NBA but is working, and one that should work (and did all season and most of the playoffs) and isn't

this is sort of what i was talking about earlier https://twitter.com/sherwoodstrauss/status/608656995823046656

this klay jumper in particular https://twitter.com/sherwoodstrauss/status/608668130957750272

how are they drawing barely any fouls other than a touch of #homecookin?

during the playoffs, but especially during the finals, the refs change what's usually a foul during the season into just 'contact'. this has always bugged me.