2015 nba finals: golden state warriors of oakland versus the cleveland cavaliers of cleveland

yeah that might work, but they'll probably get killed on the offensive glass

none of this should matter because the warriors are so much better! why are we even discussing this

its just... life idk man

if the warriors get nothign from draymond i'm not sure they're going to win the series, i would still run him out there and hope he unlocks it

i think one of golden state's biggest problems right now is that everyone went into the series thinking they had three guys to throw at lebron and it turns out they only have igoudala, who has been doing a great job but if the series goes 6 or 7 games i wonder how long he can keep banging with lebron in the post without disintegrating

yeah i think you gotta run with draymond but barnes needs to sit prob

the warriors problems on defense pale in comparison to their problems on offense though, like if you can't top 96 points i don't even know

there are tickets for game 5 going for 18.6k right now

yeah & to that end kerr needs to leave his fingerprints on this series somehow. there were so many offensive trips especially early in the game last night where the possession was one pass and then a contested shot. idk if he has to make strategic adjustments or just find out how to reset his players mentally, but fundamentally we're not watching the same team.

right, i know he's shrugged off changing the starting lineup before but he needs to not be afraid to do that.

i think one of golden state's biggest problems right now is that everyone went into the series thinking they had three guys to throw at lebron and it turns out they only have igoudala, who has been doing a great job but if the series goes 6 or 7 games i wonder how long he can keep banging with lebron in the post without disintegrating

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 10 June 2015 14:48 (6 minutes ago) Permalink

whose juice is stronger? as hard as it is to defend bron in the post, it is also physically demanding to be bron in the post 40 mins a game. he clearly gets gassed midway through the fourth and starts tossing up 3s/perimeter shots and those haven't been landing enough to be a concern (except possibly last night) and playing all but 3-5 mins of each game has to take some kind of toll.

agreed that its mostly the dubs offense thats the problem, like brons scored a ton but not efficiently

fatigue is about to hit bron and mozgov haaaard, shit it sent delly to the hospital (and much as i dislike his play that sux)

its good that he has been sent to the hospital and hopefully he will die imo

lol hellz no, DELLY is giving these finals maximum entertainment value

i hate him so much

i want to murder him

i wld destroy the world just to ensure his death

as sociological study he's invaluable

and as such makes me want to ascend from this earth

Working on a new game like bananagrams but each tile has 'del', 'la', 'va', or 'do' on it. You win by forming the grittiest sounding scrub baller name with your randomly chosen tiles. The tiles are stored in a fabric wallaby pouch or something.

xxp what do you mean exactly?

(asking bc this idea intrigues and horrifies me)

Don't forget that the curry klay iggy lee bogut starting 5 was the best (or one of the best) starting 5 in the nba last year. I'm all for it

bogut seems... injured

if u were choking for five straight days u'd prob end up injured too

tru cld be a throat injury

Greens got a back prob since that fall trying block lebron whatever game that was but not sure boguts hurt. Just needs to pull his head out of his ass.

its good that he has been sent to the hospital and hopefully he will die imo

― lag∞n, Wednesday, June 10, 2015 11:17 AM (36 minutes ago) Bookmark

strongly agree

this thread is pretty hilarious all around over the past few days, with this as the peak so far:

I'm aware they're playing badly. psychology has to be a part of it at this point, like what physical explanation for a team this good to fall prey to a team that isn't objectively playing "well" other than I guess defensively

― slothroprhymes, Tuesday, June 9, 2015 8:37 PM

"what explanation is there for this team playing so poorly other than the other team is doing a great job of stopping their offense?"

sure ok

i acknowledged that and also made room for the possibility that they might be kind of shook, which sucks

when a horribly taken shot goes in can you not say that it was poorly taken (like almost every shot matthew dellavedova has taken) or does it going in objectively make it good somehow i think there's still room for criticism

and frustration - that a style that shouldn't in a vacuum work in 2015's NBA but is working, and one that should work (and did all season and most of the playoffs) and isn't

this is sort of what i was talking about earlier https://twitter.com/sherwoodstrauss/status/608656995823046656

this klay jumper in particular https://twitter.com/sherwoodstrauss/status/608668130957750272

how are they drawing barely any fouls other than a touch of #homecookin?

during the playoffs, but especially during the finals, the refs change what's usually a foul during the season into just 'contact'. this has always bugged me.

klay had a few shots where he pump faked, shifted his feet, then decided to take an off-balance shot anyway. it was infuriating

sorry i don't mean to be a shit, but sloth your take throughout this thread has essentially been "the Warriors are great why do they look so terrible, Delly is terrible why is he hitting shots?" and all I'm saying is the Cavs are locked in on defense and despite the media narrative around Delly, he is (and has been all season) a contributing member of one of the best teams in the NBA. the guy can play. don't let Stephen A. Smith's disbelief fool you into thinking like the Cavs hired some homeless guy off the street to come in, drop 20 and shut down the MVP.

i *get* that Steph >>> Delly and the Warriors >>> Cavs. truly. but this is not smoke and mirrors. this is the best player in the world and a scrappy bunch of professional athletes (plus J.R. Smith, ha) playing their asses off and causing big problems for a VERY good but very young team that up to this point has simply floated thru the process to get to this point in a league where it has been proven time and time again that you have to overcome adversity to break thru and win a title.

that said, it'll be fucking shocking / amazing if the Cavs finish this off.

and i hope they do

delly was godawful most of this season, did emerge in the hawks series and i mostly assumed that was bc of how crippled the hawks were but hey maybe not, now he's done what he's done especially defensively, he strangled steph in game 2 i'm not denying this, that doesn't mean i can stop myself from saying WHAT THE FUCK bc what the warriors do is a style i appreciate and think will/should redefine the NBA

i'm honestly not in the anti-lebron crowd and if he pulls off a series win with what he has behind him thats an undeniable achievement and i like kyrie a ton, wish he was in the series, it would def temper my annoyance at the one way ticket to ISOville shit if there was a real shooter on the floor besides JR and delly, mozgov has been for real, etc.

motion for a 25-post daily limit for slothrop on ILH

klay had a few shots where he pump faked, shifted his feet, then decided to take an off-balance shot anyway. it was infuriating

― k3vin k., Wednesday, June 10, 2015 12:34 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah noticed that

i *get* that Steph >>> Delly and the Warriors >>> Cavs. truly. but this is not smoke and mirrors. this is the best player in the world and a scrappy bunch of professional athletes (plus J.R. Smith, ha) playing their asses off and causing big problems for a VERY good but very young team that up to this point has simply floated thru the process to get to this point in a league where it has been proven time and time again that you have to overcome adversity to break thru and win a title.

― alpine static, Wednesday, June 10, 2015 12:41 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is part of it but i dont think it really makes sense without understanding the element that the dubs are just playing bad too, i mean u can tell yr argument is incomplete by how much of it is balanced on the word "scrappy" in the middle there

This is reminding me a lot of that Mavs/Heat finals, Mavs were just Dirk and Chandler + a bunch of dudes that didn't seem to belong on a finals roster, at least not at that stage in their careers, but they just seemed to counter what the Heat were doing so well and Miami had no clue how to respond to it

this cavs team is like that allen iverson finals team except lebron can do more than AI

cavs are not as good at defense as ppl are giving them credit for

I remember a mjax bit where they were praising delly's d and one of the clips they showed was literally delly and curry fucking standing there at the tip of the arc.

but i mean ppl are prob also not considering how much credit theyre giving the cavs for the warriors offensive struggles, its like the greatest defensive performance ever if its all them doing it

their major (one, possibly) defensive accomplishment has been slowing down curry but that's had a huge ripple effect on the other starters