ThReads Must Roll: the new, improved rolling fantasy, science fiction, speculative fiction &c. thread

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed
Not all messages are displayed: show all messages (5028 of them)

wow!

max, Thursday, 11 June 2015 22:12 (eight years ago) link

We don't get syfy in australia, but the impression i get is that it's usually pretty low-rent stuff, right?

as verbose and purple as a Peter Ustinov made of plums (James Morrison), Friday, 12 June 2015 00:13 (eight years ago) link

Anyone see that Penguin box set of 100 postcards of old SF cover art? Not sure if this was mentioned already.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 12 June 2015 14:51 (eight years ago) link

no, i hadn't.

a few pictures here. only 4, but that's 3 more than on penguin's site
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1405920734/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl

koogs, Friday, 12 June 2015 15:06 (eight years ago) link

ooh!

Οὖτις, Friday, 12 June 2015 16:26 (eight years ago) link

did PKD write the game-players of titan in 24 hours? just a guess. man, i gotta find some of that speed stuff.

scott seward, Friday, 12 June 2015 19:09 (eight years ago) link

when worlds don't collide---SF fans,LGB(and maybe proto-T?)activists in the 50s:http://www.laassubject.org/index.php/monomania/kepner

dow, Friday, 12 June 2015 22:15 (eight years ago) link

fascinating

btw:
In September 1923, Kepner was found wrapped in newspaper under an oleander bush in Galveston, Texas

Οὖτις, Friday, 12 June 2015 22:55 (eight years ago) link

Since I'd totally forgotten the good ol thread you reposted that on or to, I'll recip as note to self:
Science Fiction and Teh Gays

dow, Friday, 12 June 2015 23:30 (eight years ago) link

We don't get syfy in australia, but the impression i get is that it's usually pretty low-rent stuff, right?

Varies tremendously. At one end of the scale you have Battlestar Galactica, at the other Olympus.

They're also producing a series based on Corey's Expanse novels which lands later this year.

groovypanda, Saturday, 13 June 2015 19:39 (eight years ago) link

The final Apollo Quartet book, All That Outer Space Allows really delivered, successfully tying together the various, um, microworlds, he was investigating in a meaningful way. Thanks to James Morrison for alerting me to its existence.

Will have to check that, haven't come across the AQ books. Haven't read the xpost Expanse series either, but Daniel Abraham, who is 1/2 of James SA Corey, wrote a really good, unusual story I talked about upthread; it's in the Rogues anthology. There's a Corey story in another Dozois & Martin collection I mentioned, Old Mars.

dow, Sunday, 14 June 2015 01:19 (eight years ago) link

Got pulled into an unexpectedly sustained final reading of God Emperor of Dune. As taught by Children of, I made like a sandworm and tunneled past the GE's manipulative philosophical bullshit, to the part(s) of the Golden Path made of plot twists (incl. turns of POV and character development). Good enough (for this Dune junkie) that way, but I'm worried that dingleberry pearls of wisdumb will be taken at face value in Heretics of Dune, by radical reactionaries vs. the post-GE establishment (though if that happens, I'm sure the author will demonstrate error of their ways, at some length).

dow, Sunday, 14 June 2015 17:49 (eight years ago) link

Quite by chance I took At Swim-Two-Birds (don't really know what it was doing on the all time spec fic poll. but there it was) and the free Lafferty omnibus mentioned upthread away for the weekend. Disconcertingly un-disconcerting switching between them - O'Brien prefers to hypnotise you with interminable blarney where Lafferty is happier to wrap things up with the corniest of punchlines, but otherwise they are more than comfortable bedfellows. This from Lafferty I thought particularly Flannish:

The basement room smelled of apples and ink. The editor was there as always, filling the room with his presence. He was a heavy man-image, full of left-handed wisdom and piquant expression. The editor always had time for a like-minded visitor, and George Florin came in as to a room in his own home and sat down in a deep chair in front of the "cracker barrel." "It's been a rough day," Florin said. "That makes it doubly good to see you."

"Except that you do not see me at all," the editor said. "But it is quite a presence that I project -- all the kindly cliches rolled into one. All the prime comments commented so perfectly once again. The man I took for a model was Don Marquis, though he was a columnist and not an editor in that earlier century. He kept, as you might not recall, a typewriting cockroach in his desk drawer. I keep a homunculus, a tiny manthing who comes out at night and dances over the machinery inserting his comments. He is one of our most popular characters, and I give him some good lines."

ledge, Monday, 15 June 2015 12:48 (eight years ago) link

finished game-players of titan. i didn't like that book at all. so dumb. reading this now:

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/17670_10154003985842137_1963265635912919803_n.jpg?oh=8f3187c8e11301baf927219f5547b735&oe=55EFB74D

scott seward, Monday, 15 June 2015 15:10 (eight years ago) link

also, saw Tomorrowland with Cyrus yesterday and really enjoyed that. it looked so nice and had such great detail. also, that speech at the end by House M.D. hit pretty close to home. about how people just want to watch end of the world movies and zombie shows instead of trying to make the world better because they have given up and figure there is nothing they can do because we are doomed. he was speeching at ME! oh well.

scott seward, Monday, 15 June 2015 15:17 (eight years ago) link

Richard Middleton's "The Ghost Ship" was quite fun. A short little whimsical tale of a ghost ship landing on a farm and all the local ghosts go on the ship to get drunk.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 11:38 (eight years ago) link

Lovecraft's "Dunwich Horror" starts out very well but I found the second half very boring, going through the motions and far longer than it needed to be. I think the intent was to make it similar to a detailed report (as he often does) but there was just too many inessential details and repetitions. All the dialogue with the heavy accents didn't help either.
The desciprtions of Wilbur Whateley and the countryside were probably the best things in the story.

So that finishes Great Tales Of Terror & Supernatural (after way too long of not touching it). I think that much like Dark Descent, only one third of the stories are good enough to be in a big doorstopper book like this. The rest are decent, okay or just kinda interesting. One or two I thought were actually pretty bad.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 21 June 2015 16:26 (eight years ago) link

in the middle of "the goblin emperor" and enjoying it a lot. riyl court intrigue

max, Sunday, 21 June 2015 16:31 (eight years ago) link

reread 'this is the way the world ends'; still good

mookieproof, Sunday, 21 June 2015 18:47 (eight years ago) link

Ooh that looks cool. Never heard of her (in her own name or her pen name). Thanks!

demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Sunday, 21 June 2015 20:21 (eight years ago) link

Xpost

demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Sunday, 21 June 2015 20:21 (eight years ago) link

https://www.blackgate.com/2014/03/25/i-invoke-the-voidal-oblivion-hand-by-adrian-cole/

This Voidal series by Adrian Cole sounds nutty and right up my street.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 21 June 2015 22:44 (eight years ago) link

The cover art of Baen books are really perplexing. There's always been bad fantasy cover art but why do their books so often look like bad fantasy cover art from over 25 years ago?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 25 June 2015 18:41 (eight years ago) link

tradition!

Οὖτις, Thursday, 25 June 2015 18:42 (eight years ago) link

I keep looking and thinking "Does the audience really love this? Do the artists who paint this stuff even like their work that much?"

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 25 June 2015 18:46 (eight years ago) link

Never in the history of art

i'm enjoying Wayward Pines. 10-part series starring Matt Dillon. and based on a trilogy of books i'd never heard of. if you haven't seen it, don't read about it. sci-fi spoilers abound.

scott seward, Friday, 26 June 2015 14:06 (eight years ago) link

so that's not just some terrible Shamalayan Twin Peaks rip?

Οὖτις, Friday, 26 June 2015 15:35 (eight years ago) link

no, see, that's what makes it good. it's based on books that he didn't write. and it definitely belongs on a sci-fi thread. but i won't spoil.

scott seward, Friday, 26 June 2015 15:48 (eight years ago) link

Dillon makes me favorably disposed to it but the Shamster, I just can't get with him

Οὖτις, Friday, 26 June 2015 18:05 (eight years ago) link

yeah, but really you gotta just pretend that he isn't part of it. cuz it's entertaining. he's a producer of it and he directed one or two episodes.

scott seward, Friday, 26 June 2015 18:15 (eight years ago) link

actually i think he just directed the pilot. the guy who brought it to t.v. though is just some guy i've never heard of. made two t.v. shows previously: runaway & the playboy club. neither of which i have seen.

scott seward, Friday, 26 June 2015 18:17 (eight years ago) link

Just watched The Happening on the syfy channel. Rather unsatisfying.

Help Me, Zond 4 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 27 June 2015 18:58 (eight years ago) link

Intriguing review of Neal Stephenson's Seveneves and Kim Stanley Robinson's Aurora, with cogent, concise comments on their relationship to the present era:http://lareviewofbooks.org/review/the-warm-equations

dow, Sunday, 28 June 2015 19:31 (eight years ago) link

Only thing: the reviewer limits himself *so much* by abstention from all spoilers. But he says why.

dow, Sunday, 28 June 2015 19:38 (eight years ago) link

Also check the links below the review, like Matthew Synder on Hieroglyph:
http://lareviewofbooks.org/review/saving-spaceship-earth

dow, Sunday, 28 June 2015 20:07 (eight years ago) link

Snyder!

dow, Sunday, 28 June 2015 20:08 (eight years ago) link

500 and 900 pages! My heart falls at such figures. But I know that if the narrative is compelling enough the pages can just fly by; I did really enjoy Anathem (other Stevenson not ~so~ much) and I have unintentionally avoided Robinson for too long, this might be as good a place to start as any.

ledge, Sunday, 28 June 2015 20:13 (eight years ago) link

tried abt 100 pages of quicksilver by n stephenson, life is too short etc

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Sunday, 28 June 2015 20:49 (eight years ago) link

Quicksilver def not the place to start with him

jason waterfalls (gbx), Sunday, 28 June 2015 20:55 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, that trilogy picks up steam but it takes a long, long time to do it.

it's not arugula science (WilliamC), Sunday, 28 June 2015 21:47 (eight years ago) link

Huh never seen that doctorow quote re: cold equations before. Inclined to agree.

Οὖτις, Monday, 29 June 2015 01:44 (eight years ago) link

xp A lot of Stephenson's books take a good couple of hundred pages to get going. Anathem is great and worth checking out (but I also love The Baroque Cycle).

I didn't really get on with Seveneves as the last portion felt a bit too rushed/convenient. Think it would have benefited from being split into two or even three books.

groovypanda, Tuesday, 30 June 2015 07:39 (eight years ago) link

the fact that Seveneves opens with a Mr. Show-ish moon explosion conceit just cracks me up

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 30 June 2015 15:27 (eight years ago) link

my wife asked me to describe the Lafferty stuff I've been reading to her and I couldn't do it. I just couldn't think of anything that really worked as a point of comparison. There's a lot of strange allegorical stuff - loads of historical, religious, folk/myth references - next to no exposition, a tendency to describe people in almost totemic/animist terms. He seems to enjoy repeating people's names or pat descriptions a lot in the text. There isn't really anything in the way of plot or character development, things are just set in motion and then come to almost comic (sometimes nastily so) Twilight-Zone style conclusions. Standard sci-fi and fantasy tropes don't figure into his writing except as occasional window-dressing (I kinda wonder if he bristled at being characterized as a scifi writer). The way say space/time travel or new technology or aliens are deployed is closer to magical realism than anything else, but only in the most superficial way - again he's not concerned with characters or realism as much as he is about funny little folk tales. I guess that (and his Catholicism, which is all over this material) puts him in the realm of Gene Wolfe, but Wolfe is a fundamentally different kind of storyteller, one with a better flair for sentence and plot construction. Lafferty's material seems to just spill out like a series of campfire story with a weird twists and silly names.

I dunno if he's great exactly but he's definitely unique.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 30 June 2015 17:38 (eight years ago) link


You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.