Jenny Hval - Viscera

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definitely enjoy the lusher tracks towards the end of the record more than the stuff at the start

irl friend of the geir (NickB), Friday, 12 June 2015 15:06 (eight years ago) link

god i made some abominable earlier posts on this thread

irl friend of the geir (NickB), Friday, 12 June 2015 15:06 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

Innocence is Kinky is retrospectively one of my favorite albums of 2013. I'm slightly surprised it didn't place in ILM's EOY poll.

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 12 July 2015 21:22 (eight years ago) link

I wasn't into IIK at all, but I really like half of the new record.

Michael F Gill, Monday, 13 July 2015 00:46 (eight years ago) link

The P4k interview is good!

“Take Care of Yourself” goes for a delicate intimacy that you can’t really get when everything becomes about sexual success, and this frightening idea that sexuality is not something that leads to something and then climaxes and it’s over; it’s this endless thing that you can never satisfy. You can see it very cynically—just floating on the sea not doing anything, just wallowing. It’s like the Internet: click click click.

She says a lot of inspiring stuff, I'll have to check out the record. Hilarious cover art.

niels, Friday, 17 July 2015 12:25 (eight years ago) link

oh yeah also "soft dick rock" is v funny

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0263/1575/products/hvalfrontblack_18660a53-7ef2-4f8f-8de6-80f9b851ee84_1024x1024.jpg

niels, Friday, 17 July 2015 12:27 (eight years ago) link

Love her. "Sabbath" is really excellent.

geoffreyess, Saturday, 18 July 2015 05:41 (eight years ago) link

I like how "Sabbath" goes from a metrically/melodically free form stretch that's most about telling a story, to a chorus that anyone writing straightforward song form would be very happy to come up with. There are other cases on this album when loosely structured tracks contain more closed, more melodic and traditionally musical, forms.

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 18 July 2015 13:11 (eight years ago) link

There's another one of those striking shifts in "Why This." (I keep being reminded of the Psychic TV/White Stains collaboration At Stockhlom, though I would a million times rather listen to Havl. But some of the use of samples (or just sound) and the alternation between unmetered stretches and passages where rhythm comes to the foreground is reminiscent. I'd love to have an instrumental version of At Stockholm, actually.)

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 18 July 2015 13:41 (eight years ago) link

Hilarious radio station in-studio performance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZpSuYamMsE

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 18 July 2015 13:45 (eight years ago) link

three weeks pass...

"Hilarious" was going to far.

I am disappointed with the video for "Sabbath." Getting a bit tired of the way she distances herself from the beauty of her own music or from the authentic feelings expressed.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 10 August 2015 17:11 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csIDglmrupc&spfreload=10

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 10 August 2015 17:13 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

'Conceptual Romance' is just a beautiful song

I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Friday, 26 August 2016 00:58 (seven years ago) link

i agree

j. winters (josh), Friday, 26 August 2016 01:06 (seven years ago) link

Agreed!

Ross, Friday, 26 August 2016 01:24 (seven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

new album blood bitch streaming on NPR: http://www.npr.org/2016/09/22/494571616/first-listen-jenny-hval-blood-bitch

j. winters (josh), Thursday, 22 September 2016 16:01 (seven years ago) link

I'm absolutely in love with this album. Conceptual Romance, The Great Undressing, and Secret Touch are truly incredible songs, just transcendent pieces of dark, intimate, and introspective pop lyricism that has been largely missing in my music diet of late. Many of the other songs, such as In the Red, on their own are a bit intense in their sonic explorations, but fit very well in the big picture of this record as an "album" which I really enjoy. Can't wait to get a physical copy.

I've only recently gotten into her, but I've just been floored by her voice and sound. Very intensely creative and intimate artist. With blood powers.

octobeard, Friday, 23 September 2016 06:54 (seven years ago) link

"Secret Touch" is great. Pop music infused with raw humanity.

Ross, Sunday, 25 September 2016 01:52 (seven years ago) link

She's on the cover of the newest Wire

Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 25 September 2016 01:57 (seven years ago) link

Not up to the standards of Innocence is Kinky or (the more relevant, because aesthetically closer) Apocalypse, girl to me.

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 25 September 2016 15:06 (seven years ago) link

today truly felt like the first day of fall in chicago -- complete with cold wind -- and this album connected around magic hour time, it'll serve as my halloween 2016 soundtrack

j. winters (josh), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 03:38 (seven years ago) link

Fancy vinyl version of BB - http://www.sacredbonesrecords.com/products/sbr161-jenny-hval-blood-bitch

neilasimpson, Thursday, 29 September 2016 15:39 (seven years ago) link

Seeing her tonight with Moor Mother and Olga Bell! Her last show in Philly (for Apocalypse, Girl at the Boot & Saddle; I forget the openers) was incredible so my expectations are pretty high

You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Thursday, 29 September 2016 22:51 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

have always been a bit intrigued with individual songs i have heard - if you had to choose one record is this new one just as good a place to start as any

peanutbuttereverysingleday, Saturday, 15 October 2016 09:24 (seven years ago) link

Start with Apocalypse Girl. More consistent and less intensely experimental than Blood Bitch. I feel you'll have a good idea whether or not you'll like her after just taking in the first couple songs off that. However, I feel the new one has the higher peaks and is the more rewarding repeat listen.

Personally, I think they're both much better than Innocence is Kinky. I have yet to hear Viscera.

octobeard, Monday, 17 October 2016 06:55 (seven years ago) link

Have her lyrics got any less blunt this time around? That killed the last one stone dead for me even when the music was often excellent.

Matt DC, Monday, 17 October 2016 07:18 (seven years ago) link

I can hardly make out most of the lyrics on the new one.

I think Apocalypse, girl is just as "experimental." Blood Bitch just seems very blurry all the way through, and doesn't have the peaks of Apocalypse, girl. Where are the brilliant melodic eruptions on the new one? Blood Bitch is also not as varied in terms of sheer sound. She had a lot of collaborators for Apocalypse, girl, which obviously doesn't inherently make an album better, but in this case the greater sound palate is a huge attraction.

Also kind of getting annoyed with her. An album about vampires and menstruation--Oh Jenny, you're so quirky!

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 17 October 2016 15:14 (seven years ago) link

Parts of Apocalypse, girl still remind me in an odd way of Psychic TV w/ White Stains At Stockholm (which I don't especially recommend although maybe I do for at least one listen). The transition at 1:28-1:32 in "Why This?" for instance.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 17 October 2016 15:58 (seven years ago) link

Recommend "Apocalypse, girl" as well. Her lyrics are not any less blunt on the new one.

Ross, Monday, 17 October 2016 17:50 (seven years ago) link

The Psychic TV name checking is enough to get me to listen to this

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 17 October 2016 18:52 (seven years ago) link

It really only reminds me of At Stockholm at a couple points, but there are a couple transitions which are similar. I guess some of the use of samples overall is similar as well.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 17 October 2016 19:27 (seven years ago) link

two months pass...

Conceptual Romance is really something

Karl Malone, Friday, 13 January 2017 07:17 (seven years ago) link

Hval can pretty much do no wrong in my book http://pitchfork.com/reviews/tracks/18693-kelly-lee-owens-anxi-ft-jenny-hval/

Everything Moves Towards The Sun (Ross), Thursday, 19 January 2017 21:01 (seven years ago) link

this is basically a Maria Minerva track

boxedjoy, Thursday, 19 January 2017 23:35 (seven years ago) link

Maria Minerva's the best - OK with me. It's a lot less fun than Minerva though.

Everything Moves Towards The Sun (Ross), Friday, 20 January 2017 00:14 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

this new lost girls EP (two tracks, 24 minutes) is very good. anyone else listening to it?

i went to check out a bad andrew wk review, but left listening to a new hval side-project i didn't even know about. it was a good visit to pitchfork

Yeah, it's quite good. I think the A-side was the centerpiece at her concert at Roskilde last summer. Anyone else who have heard it live?

Frederik B, Thursday, 8 March 2018 23:34 (six years ago) link

Oh damn there's new hval; tnanks Karl

kolakube (Ross), Friday, 9 March 2018 00:00 (six years ago) link

hval's music shares so many of the best qualities of kate bush and laurie anderson. i'm surprised there isn't more love for her here since those two are certified ilxor legends

Karl Malone, Friday, 23 March 2018 00:00 (six years ago) link

Listened to Blood Bitch soooo much in the last year or so, it's pretty wonderful.

startled macropod (MatthewK), Friday, 23 March 2018 06:22 (six years ago) link

Love to get a hold of Hval's Kate bush essay, but haven't found it in English

tinnitus the night (Ross), Friday, 23 March 2018 09:46 (six years ago) link

Have you found it in Norwegian? Would love to read it as well :)

Frederik B, Friday, 23 March 2018 11:59 (six years ago) link

there is some sort of academic paper on the subject on the link below but it's written by someone else:

jennyhval.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/ENO-Kate-Bush.pdf

i'm surprised to see your screwface at the door (NickB), Friday, 23 March 2018 12:15 (six years ago) link

actually no, it's just a long interview with jenny on the subject (i think!)

i'm surprised to see your screwface at the door (NickB), Friday, 23 March 2018 12:17 (six years ago) link

an interview w/ jenny h about her thesis i mean

i'm surprised to see your screwface at the door (NickB), Friday, 23 March 2018 12:20 (six years ago) link

I would like to read the thesis. Hval says that it's a 'listening' of the music, an analysis of the relationship between Bush and Hval, as facilitated by headphones. The things they say about The Dreaming are really interesting, I'll try and listen more to that. About how Bush until then mostly depicted one subject at a time, but on The Dreaming the very sense of self breaks down. Also, Hval really likes The Dreaming, the song, because Hval herself speaks English in a fake Australian accent :)

Frederik B, Friday, 23 March 2018 13:27 (six years ago) link

Dreaming is a huge basis for the Kate influence on her stuff I think. A song like Secret Touch is lyrically anguished and brutal but cut with a sweetness vocally similar to Kate songs like Houdini or Infant Kiss. Hval is also a proponent of esoterotica mixed with pop

tinnitus the night (Ross), Friday, 23 March 2018 15:40 (six years ago) link

#releasethethesis

Karl Malone, Friday, 23 March 2018 16:15 (six years ago) link

I'm trying to contact Jenny for the thesis - fingers crossed

tinnitus the night (Ross), Friday, 23 March 2018 17:50 (six years ago) link

It's on Spotify here--does that stagger releases by local date? I assumed it came out everywhere at once.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Friday, 26 March 2021 01:37 (three years ago) link

i don't see the album yet on spotify, just the two singles (menneskekollektivet and losing something)

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Friday, 26 March 2021 01:45 (three years ago) link

it's not on Spotify here yet. it is not yet available in the United States. I am prevented from hearing it.

lukas, Friday, 26 March 2021 01:46 (three years ago) link

spotify staggers releases by local date in general except for the occasional major label pop album which gets a global worldwide release

ufo, Friday, 26 March 2021 01:51 (three years ago) link

i think people who enjoyed the title track will like the rest of the album too, it's similar in feeling but there's a lot of nice guitar soloing too

ufo, Friday, 26 March 2021 02:06 (three years ago) link

kind of reminds me of lindstrom & prin thomas's ii which i love

ufo, Friday, 26 March 2021 02:14 (three years ago) link

also maybe the closest we'll ever get to a new knife album? like it's not ripping them off or anything but very much feels like an unexplored direction they could have gone on

ufo, Friday, 26 March 2021 10:51 (three years ago) link

Damn that sold out quick :/

willem, Monday, 29 March 2021 14:40 (three years ago) link

five months pass...

Listened to Menneskekollektivet after I saw it was a duo with Jenny Hval (from the cover I had thought probably a female indie rock band). I am not really feeling the long pieces, too meticulous and conceptual and not really gripping. Hval is not at her best. The true highlight turned out to be 'Real Life' (guitar also a nice addition on Losing Something).

Nabozo, Monday, 6 September 2021 06:34 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

New cover:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXhVN_oRcv8

lukas, Friday, 8 October 2021 17:29 (two years ago) link

if you like Jenny Hval, I recommend the new Tirzah album

Indexed, Friday, 8 October 2021 17:40 (two years ago) link

I like both Jenny Hval & Tirzah - unsure how compatible they are. JennyH is far more wordy than Tirzah for one - that new Tirzah record has a kind of chilly, hazed ambiguity which is pointedly unpretentious in my mind. Part of her ineffable charm is that her songs have an unfinished , rough quality whereas Jenny H is unafraid of going into territory which sounds like she has composed dramatic decidedly 'unrandom' mini symphonies and she pairs this with lyrics which are an odd mixture of almost academic textbook ideas & visceral emotion. JennyH has got more material with probably more variety in there as wellm- Tirzah just has those two albums. Thinking this through now - it IS an interesting comparison and I can see some similarities in that they are both clearly thoughtful artists with layers of sub text - but the finished product for me & approach seems kinda opposite. Its got me thinking though.

clouds (peanutbuttereverysingleday), Friday, 8 October 2021 19:41 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

so good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJB7UR91JrA

bespoke sausages (seandalai), Saturday, 13 November 2021 00:55 (two years ago) link

yes!

lukas, Saturday, 13 November 2021 02:30 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2i2oJJwgLTk

gorgeous

lukas, Wednesday, 19 January 2022 06:46 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

new album's very good, maybe not quite as good as the lost girls album last year but still very enjoyable

ufo, Friday, 11 March 2022 12:10 (two years ago) link

general vibe reminds me of aerial and animals so it's really made for me

ufo, Saturday, 12 March 2022 05:34 (two years ago) link

Her music is often beautifully layered, here it's beautifully bare, natural-mechanical, and placing more focus on her solo voice, almost approaching Susanne Sundfør lyrical art pop. It feels very confident and accomplished. Not every composition hits, but each tries something out convincingly and the eight songs are consistent.

Nabozo, Monday, 14 March 2022 19:36 (two years ago) link

This is a really addictive and super-accessible album and I think my favourite Hval to date. Instantly gratifying as a fresh springtime pop album but there are layers and layers and layers to unpick. The structures are possibly less conventionally pop than on The Practice of Love but it is somehow a much easier and more nourishing listen.

technopolis, Tuesday, 15 March 2022 22:31 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

the year of love is a fantastic song

treeship., Wednesday, 6 April 2022 15:31 (two years ago) link

three months pass...

Finally listening to this.

Given it is currently uncertain whether Julia Holter will make further albums in the vein of Have You In My Wilderness, I’m very grateful to Hval for stepping into the breach so consummately.

Tim F, Saturday, 9 July 2022 06:35 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

Why'd it take me so long to listen to this? Julia Holter vibes are right, Tim F. A rather stunning, accessible, naturalist pop record.

Indexed, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 21:34 (one year ago) link

coincidentally listening to it right now. excellent album!

Tim F, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 23:18 (one year ago) link

I've had this on my 'to listen' list for a while, just getting round to it now thanks to the thread bump. This is great so far, Year of Love is such an arresting song.

The Ghost Club, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 01:10 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

lovely new song, 'buffy':

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoBkkXpvO9E

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 19:38 (one year ago) link

sublime

ufo, Thursday, 17 November 2022 00:34 (one year ago) link

eleven months pass...

new lost girls album isn't as strong as menneskekollektivet or classic objects but is still quite nice

ufo, Friday, 20 October 2023 00:00 (six months ago) link


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