whenever I get sad about all the shows I never went to growing up I try to remember how lucky I am to have at least OK hearing now because of it.
― skip, Monday, 22 June 2015 18:45 (five years ago) link
no - by some miracle despite having been at several of the loudest concerts in the history of music and spending my entire adult working life in extremely loud environments i don't have it.
my hearing however is bad.
― stirmonster, Monday, 22 June 2015 19:21 (five years ago) link
xp i missed the minutemen twice at the seventh street entry when i was in the first flush of my fandom and it's prob the biggest concert regret of my life. BUT i was told D's telecaster was ridiculously ridiculously loud so maybe my tinnitus would be even worse if id made those shows...
― demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Monday, 22 June 2015 20:50 (five years ago) link
Only attended two concerts that left my ears ringing before I invested in audiophile earplugs. Fortunately, those two were Curve and MBV, so no regrets.
― We'd like to conduct a wobulator test here (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 23 June 2015 04:48 (five years ago) link
It was Fuck Buttons in 2010 that got me to get high quality ear plugs.
What bugs more than the tinnitus is the noticeable attenuation/loss of hearing around the 6-8khz band in one ear.
― octobeard, Tuesday, 23 June 2015 05:32 (five years ago) link
― hardcore dilettante, Tuesday, 23 June 2015 05:34 (five years ago) link
(never gets old)
― hardcore dilettante, Tuesday, 23 June 2015 05:35 (five years ago) link
After years and years of punishment (Swans, On-U, MBV, Merzbow, Astro, Sunn, a million other things) and only the odd very light and short burst of tinnitus, after seeing Jiri Wehle (a Czech pensioner singing quiet fairy stories) and Afework Nigussie (an Azmari guy on solo masenqo) a couple of weeks ago I have been left with a blocked feeling in my left ear which makes everything sound like it's underwater. I'd read somebody else's similar story before, that it was something innocuous that caused their first big hearing problem, so it's earplugs from here on it for me.
― the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Tuesday, 23 June 2015 08:55 (five years ago) link
I suffer from moderate tinnitus and hyperacusis, my symptoms can vary from totally unnoticeable to "so bad I can't get out of bed" on any given day. It's a struggle but I'm dealing with it.
I just want to point out that the Buzzfeed article above is quite negative and may not be the best introduction to the subject for someone with recently developed hearing problems -- I would quite seriousl post a warning by the link.
One of the major issues with tinnitus is the difficulty of getting proper practical advice -- between your GP being "lol deal with it" and sensationalist Daily Mail/Buzzfeed articles about suicide, it can make you feel rather hopeless when there's actually good information out there. (e.g. this book.
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 07:29 (five years ago) link
Don't know what's happened but since the weekend I'm experiencing noticeable hearing loss and certain frequencies like dialing tones and dishes clanking together sound unbearable. Hoping this rights itself pretty damn soon.
― I ain't got no bites / Bad itches is the only thing that I like (dog latin), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 08:41 (five years ago) link
After years and years of punishment (Swans, On-U, MBV, Merzbow, Astro, Sunn, a million other things) and only the odd very light and short burst of tinnitus, after seeing Jiri Wehle (a Czech pensioner singing quiet fairy stories) and Afework Nigussie (an Azmari guy on solo masenqo) a couple of weeks ago I have been left with a blocked feeling in my left ear which makes everything sound like it's underwater. I'd read somebody else's similar story before, that it was something innocuous that caused their first big hearing problem, so it's earplugs from here on it for me.― the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Tuesday, June 23, 2015 9:55 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Tuesday, June 23, 2015 9:55 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
It could just be wax that's come dislodge and is blocking a pathway. Your GP can fix this in seconds.
― I ain't got no bites / Bad itches is the only thing that I like (dog latin), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 08:42 (five years ago) link
Good point dl, I am due at the docs soon anyway.
― the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 10:21 (five years ago) link
Sounds more like sinusitis or similar than tinnitus. One of those Netipot or over the counter nose-squirty-sniffy things might help. (They wouldn't hurt.) I'd avoid ear drops until your doctor's had a look though.
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 12:53 (five years ago) link
Re: earplugs, it's just not worth the potential consequence not to use earplugs. Maybe not in yr early 20s but 30s, 40s, 50s, definitely. I recommend the Alpine Music Pro plugs - they're very good, not irritating.
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 12:55 (five years ago) link
I think the loudest show I ever went to (or loudest seeming) was Firehose. My bandmate who is a sound guy said the loudest he ever supported was Sugar; I've seen Mould in several settings that were loud but not painful.
― Ye Mad Puffin, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 15:54 (five years ago) link
Sugar seems to be a really very common reference point, more so than HD or even the other early 90s bands save Dino and MBV - there's some story about Mould going to bed with the TV snow whacked up full blast
― Master of Treacle, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 16:56 (five years ago) link
Xpost edfromohio was trying to live up to the treble crown of d boon
― demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 20:06 (five years ago) link
Loved Firehose, Sugar, Dino at the time but all I can now is fuck 'em all for being so stupid loud.
― doug watson, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 20:41 (five years ago) link
I can see why, say, Swans want to be so loud as some trance-inducing full body experience, but fucking Sugar? Turn it down, dudes.
― that's why god destroyed the radio (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 25 June 2015 22:42 (five years ago) link
this thread sort of rekindled my interest in my tinnitus. been wearing earplugs on the subway recently
i am going to get acupuncture for it at some point in the mid-term future; can report back if anyone is interested in an anecdote as to whether it worked
― unknown pleasure zone (uptown churl), Thursday, 25 June 2015 23:53 (five years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Friday, 26 June 2015 00:01 (five years ago) link
I don't have tinnitus and i'm grateful everyday. I remember nights djing where i'd turn headphones up to full because I couldn't hear them over the speakers. I did once review a sun 0))) gig from outside the building they played, which was prudent.
― Popture, Friday, 26 June 2015 00:10 (five years ago) link
Against all odds, no I don't.
― a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten), Friday, 26 June 2015 01:04 (five years ago) link
I'm interested. Mine isn't so bad that it bothers me - I have taken care to wear earplugs at shows for the past twenty years, though, after some pretty deafening shows. But definitely interested in knowing if there's anything to acupuncture helping that.
― that's why god destroyed the radio (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 26 June 2015 02:06 (five years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Saturday, 27 June 2015 00:01 (five years ago) link
i'm one of the two who voted "yes - a lot, it's not f*cking fair, one gig by MBV/Swans/Tackhead, and that was it ..." i saw MBV twice in three days for the Loveless tour. also stuff like Flaming Lips, Built to Spill, Spiritualized ect...
― Bee OK, Saturday, 27 June 2015 02:48 (five years ago) link
I think I have this now--been noticing it for the past two weeks every night when I watch TV. What I've read matches what I'm experiencing exactly. I'm at least relieved to find out how common and how to-be-expected it is.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 30 December 2015 02:35 (four years ago) link
all it took was being up close at one lightning bolt show
― BringTheAuBonPain, Wednesday, 30 December 2015 03:34 (four years ago) link
I've never even heard of Tackhead
― small doug yule carnival club (unregistered), Wednesday, 30 December 2015 03:39 (four years ago) link
aka the mafia (as in mark stewarts backing band after the pop group), on-u sound system etc.in the late pre-major label era, 80s with adrian sherwood on the live mix, they made a noise like i had never experienced before.bass booms, shrieking top end industrial noise distortion, with drums that rattled the innards.fantastic stuff.
― mark e, Wednesday, 30 December 2015 19:42 (four years ago) link
Does this come and go? Sometimes it's there, sometimes not. Is it more that it's ever-present, I'm just not, for whatever reason (idle thoughts about something else, etc.), always aware of it?
― clemenza, Saturday, 30 January 2016 20:04 (four years ago) link
There is no way to objectively measure tinnitus really. And it presents in a wide variety of ways.
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 30 January 2016 20:50 (four years ago) link
With me it's always there, more pronounced at times (like when I have a head cold). I can tune it out for days at a time, but I'm always aware of it. Weird thing is, when I first acknowledged to myself that it was a permanent condition, it stopped being a problem. My anxiety was really more about finding the right treatment options, rather than the T itself.
― henry s, Saturday, 30 January 2016 21:22 (four years ago) link
About once every week or two, I experience a ringing for ~5 seconds that slowly tapers in amplitude until it's gone. I assume that's tinnitus.
― Toof Seteltha (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 30 January 2016 22:26 (four years ago) link
Also worse with head colds for me. At its best I don't notice it unless I'm in a really silent room.
― Three Word Username, Saturday, 30 January 2016 22:31 (four years ago) link
xpost - I get that 5-10 second ringing too, on top of the tinnitus. Usually once a day or so. The temporary ringing is a bit different, certainly more pronounced than the ongoing tinnitus I deal with.
― henry s, Saturday, 30 January 2016 22:58 (four years ago) link
That 5-10 second thing used to worry me - like one day it will start ringing and then never stop. It's probably normal though.
― skip, Sunday, 31 January 2016 03:27 (four years ago) link
I get that too, same worry. blocking the ear with my finger helps a lot, seems to equalize it
― the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Sunday, 31 January 2016 03:33 (four years ago) link
I knew it was probably overcautious to bring earplugs to a Mark Eitzel gig and they were new ones, I haven't been to a gig since 2013. They were called Thunderplugs and the guy who sold me them was really enthusiastic about them.
I put them in minutes before the support band came on, it sounded way too muffled, but then I couldn't get one of them out my ear. The more I tried, the further it got lodged in my ear, I couldn't get the fucker out, it was painful the whole night and I was really pissed off that could have happened so easily. This probably sounds like I stupidly shoved them in but I really didn't.
My mother picked it out with tweezers and it was difficult, painful, and a little scary. To think I was considering trying small scissors to grip the little tube in the centre if we didn't have tweezers.
Thunderplugs went in the bin. I'm going to look for plugs closer to the older plate style but I'm honestly not sure how much I need them, I never go to anything brutally loud except one Swans gig that wasn't as loud as feared. It's impossible to measure how much you'll need earplugs for this or that gig.
Has this happened to anyone else or do I just have huge gaping earholes?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 13 March 2017 00:30 (three years ago) link
Hasn't happened to me but it was always a fear I had. I only really use the cylindrical or bullet-shaped foam ones you roll until they're thin and then insert.
― I cut this hair, I wash this hair, I mess this hair up (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 08:00 (three years ago) link
Have you tried Elacin ER20s? As a tinnitus sufferer, my days of going to see Dinosaur Jr are over, however at the gigs I do attend I always wear plugs. If the gig is quieter than expected with the ER20s you can always pull them out slightly. I think the only gigs I've not needed plugs at is Magnetic Fields because Stephen Merritt has hyperacusis he keeps the volume down.
― Grantman, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 21:44 (three years ago) link
They look easier to pull out because they have longer tubes but I'd prefer something more like the older plate ones, if they still make them.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 23:08 (three years ago) link
I have trouble with ear plugs too. A lot of shows I go to I seem to spend more time fiddling with them than enjoying the band. I walk out of venues wth muffled hearing, not so much because of noise levels, but because I pushed the plugs in so far they compacted all the wax (of which I am a prolific producer.)
― henry s, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 23:23 (three years ago) link
Anyone try this?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajb37ie-Juo
― DJI, Wednesday, 5 April 2017 19:38 (three years ago) link
Sounds temporary at best, but sometimes even temporary relief is helpful...
― DJI, Wednesday, 5 April 2017 19:41 (three years ago) link
I've done something like that before but my tinnitus isn't that bad, so I didn't notice much difference.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 5 April 2017 19:44 (three years ago) link
I'll probably try this at some point, but I'm not expecting much and anyway, I've reached an understanding with my tinnitus. You have to kind of fall in love with those things you can't change, otherwise they will drive you crazy. I don't say this when I have a cold and it gets worse, but normally it's a pure, consistent sound that isn't so hard to deal with. Maybe others have it worse.
― henry s, Wednesday, 5 April 2017 19:55 (three years ago) link
Have any of you tried the background noise generator myNoise.net?
Commence blatant fawning: It's an incredible collection of about 150 soundscapes, field recordings, drones, music, background chatter, machine sounds, white noise, etc., each made up of 10 different tracks with individual volume sliders, randomizers and presets for endless variety and fine tuning.
They have several generators specifically geared toward tinnitus (see the section called Synthetic Noises), but listener testimonials on many of the soundscapes claim varying amounts of tinnitus relief. It does seem that every testimonial is for a different combo of sounds and volumes, so you'll probably have to try a bit of everything to find one that might work for you.
― Hideous Lump, Thursday, 6 April 2017 04:10 (three years ago) link
Can someone precis the video - it's region blocked
Sat in a pub with friends last night when, dead on 8pm, a DJ started up and suddenly nobody could hear anybody else. The ringing is bad today.
― koogs, Saturday, 8 April 2017 13:03 (three years ago) link
lying in bed this morning at about 5:30 listening to the birds waking up and something clicked and the tinnitus got suddenly louder and changed frequency (to one that masked out about half of the birdsong). it's grim. i hope it stops.
tons of batshit tinnitus 'cures' on youtube.
― koogs, Thursday, 20 April 2017 20:06 (three years ago) link
doctor reckons, and i hope, that my recent noise upturn is related to recent / ongoing cold / sore throat / etc. and that antibiotics will clear it all up.
every time i get a lurgy, the inner ear buzz increases.hopefully once you are clear it will subside to a more acceptable level.
― mark e, Thursday, 4 May 2017 21:56 (three years ago) link
"Inspiral Carpets drummer killed himself after 20 years of 'unbearable' tinnitus"
― koogs, Saturday, 6 May 2017 14:37 (three years ago) link
That's awful. Stories like this used to keep me awake way more than the actual tinnitus when it first set in. Then I would look at people like Neil Young, who must have it as bad as anybody, and he gets by. Made me think there was a way to make peace with this thing. And there is. Like Steve Martin (another sufferer) said, "you just get used to it."
― henry s, Saturday, 6 May 2017 15:11 (three years ago) link
Ha, after one failed attempt I got an ENT appointment in the post this morning. April 2018, 11 days short of the day it started.
― koogs, Monday, 27 November 2017 18:52 (two years ago) link
― DJI, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 22:44 (two years ago) link
Tested on an actual Guinea pig...
― koogs, Thursday, 4 January 2018 03:28 (two years ago) link
so, 11 months after this kicked up a notch i got to see an audiologist (nhs sent me to a private hospital as they had no appointments until july (it was put back 3 months))
he said there was hearing loss at certain frequencies, but didn't seem to consider that the ringing was drowning out the tones, making them hard to spot, rather than not hearing them exactly. (the audio equiv of being dazzled by the sun, say). he generally didn't look too happy about the situation.
MRI booked as well, but i worry that all the metal in my teeth will rule that out.
i also realised that i've lost my earplugs. haven't used them this year. will buy some more but the ones i like are a penny below the amazon free postage limit.
― koogs, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 11:46 (two years ago) link
(he also singled out Brixton Academy as a dangerously loud venue)
― koogs, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 11:47 (two years ago) link
My brother, my sister and my mother all wear hearing aids now - how I've escaped God knows, it's murder on my throat having to shout all the time, let me tell you.
― Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 12:19 (two years ago) link