lol I mean what exactly are you doing other than swallowing Heat PR about Winslow, watching some Whiteside 2015 mixes isn't really different
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 26 June 2015 19:40 (eight years ago) link
u can appreciate two players at once it cool
― lag∞n, Friday, 26 June 2015 19:41 (eight years ago) link
i guess I'm just sick of people falling for the "we had him 4th on our board!" thing
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 26 June 2015 19:43 (eight years ago) link
it's more a function of mock draft culture
― J0rdan S., Friday, 26 June 2015 19:44 (eight years ago) link
like the Heat saying that they thought the knicks would take him, give me a fucking break
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 26 June 2015 19:44 (eight years ago) link
there isn't any mock drafts that had winslow falling, that's all it is
he only fell a couple few spots tho
― lag∞n, Friday, 26 June 2015 19:45 (eight years ago) link
dude every mock had him in the 6-10 range and that's where he went xp
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 26 June 2015 19:46 (eight years ago) link
anyway it was a good pick up for miami imo he seems like a very low downside guy
― lag∞n, Friday, 26 June 2015 19:47 (eight years ago) link
mudiay prob a bigger steal tho
― lag∞n, Friday, 26 June 2015 19:49 (eight years ago) link
he fits Miami's team needs perfectly
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 26 June 2015 19:51 (eight years ago) link
Winslow would have been a pretty odd pick for the Hornets really.
The Pistons are the team that rolled the dice. Stanley Johnson and Winslow are very close imo. I was more into Johnson but then I saw those hideous finishing numbers.
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 26 June 2015 19:53 (eight years ago) link
this is a really dumb convo but
At their draft-night availability, the Heat handed out a sheet of 20 mock drafts by prominent NBA writers or websites, and 19 had Winslow slotted between fourth and seventh; only one writer had him as low as eighth.
it's not true that winslow was in the 6-10 range. he was in the 4-8 range charitably, but really between denver and detroit. there wasn't a single mock draft, probably since april, that had winslow falling to the heat. every mock draft had the heat taking booker or johnson aka [wing player who isn't justise winslow] or myles turner.
in mock drafts, which is how people who read about the draft get information, winslow was in the tier of wing player above where the heat were drafting. he was too good to fall to the heat. but then he did! it's pretty easy to understand.
― J0rdan S., Friday, 26 June 2015 20:23 (eight years ago) link
There was no way Winslow was going in the top 4 and if there really were mocks out there that had him there they were very bad mocks. Porzingis was a top 5 lock, and the Magic weren't gonna pick Winslow.
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 26 June 2015 20:28 (eight years ago) link
I guess Winslow going to the Knicks was just a wild guess based on the fact that the knicks were the only team that basically had no leaks
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 26 June 2015 20:31 (eight years ago) link
looking at the mocks you're right, Winslow made a late push at the end to get in the 4-8 range. But throughout much of the process 6-10 was about where he was.
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 26 June 2015 20:39 (eight years ago) link
I'm amazed by all the mocks that didn't have Kaminsky to the Hornets, they telegraphed that pretty hard.
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 26 June 2015 20:40 (eight years ago) link
im most surprised that the knicks didnt do something stupid
― lag∞n, Friday, 26 June 2015 21:47 (eight years ago) link
celtics apparently offered 6 picks, including 4 potential firsts, to move up to charlotte's spot for winslow.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 26 June 2015 23:21 (eight years ago) link
yeah, but the hornets don't get frank and don't roll off six straight finals appearances
― balls, Friday, 26 June 2015 23:57 (eight years ago) link
the second round grades here are a great example of the worst kind of draft analysis. Reflexively insulting whenever a player hasn't been scouted by the writer:
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/draft/drafttracker
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 27 June 2015 00:09 (eight years ago) link
― call all destroyer, Friday, June 26, 2015 7:21 PM (55 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is literally insane
― lag∞n, Saturday, 27 June 2015 00:16 (eight years ago) link
Frank must gonna be a hall of famer.
― Jeff, Saturday, 27 June 2015 00:19 (eight years ago) link
if the celtics wanted to be in the lottery so bad they cldve just not made the playoffs
― lag∞n, Saturday, 27 June 2015 00:20 (eight years ago) link
its funny they didnt even want to take the same player, they just both really didnt want all those draft picks
― lag∞n, Saturday, 27 June 2015 00:23 (eight years ago) link
tbf they were prob all terrible picks but still so many
that celtics stuff is unfathomable to me, if any team 6-9 really turned this down....
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 27 June 2015 00:45 (eight years ago) link
yeah that story honestly does not scan to me
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 27 June 2015 08:01 (eight years ago) link
sportscenter just showed this segment on isaiah austin and it's getting pretty dusty in here, my typical cynicism be damned that was a great moment in last year's draft
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 29 June 2015 02:42 (eight years ago) link