Shady scams and other silly business ideas to take advantage of earnest new vinyl collectors

so sad they didn't call themselves Grownass Brothers

The Growbros

They would have totally done the whole "Brothas" thing too, most likely.

Feel like they just sold their banjo and mandolin, want to get back into some real rock like Springsteen and Billy Joel

Vnyl me with "real rock", please.

Hope you like Greg Kihn

As long as it's on vinyl, I love love LOVE it!

I posted a month ago about a dispute with this seller on Discogs who sent me the wrong record and then has refused to deal with me (e.g. he said "I have someone who handles discogs for me - email them" but then won't give me that person's email address).

I've opened up a PayPal dispute but they give the seller ages to respond and it hasn't happened yet.

So I just had a (maybe stupid) question about Discogs feedback: If I give him Poor feedback, can't he also just respond with Poor feedback? I have a perfect record and don't want to tarnish it because he's been a dick, you know?

He can, but you can then ask Discogs to remove it if you can prove the seller is acting poorly.

Paypal disputes have two stages, you need to manually move it on to a claim if they don't respond after a week or so.

Ah, thanks. Yeah, the second stage of the PayPal dispute doesn't kick in for a month it looks like. I've put it in the calendar.
It's all such a hassle for $20 but it's the friggin' principle of the thing!!

Sorry, you can no longer leave feedback on this order because it is older than 90 days.

Argh

So yeah, it was Mike Simonetti.

Don't buy from him. Totally ripped me off.

Feedback: You are a creep.

if i remember, you are not alone with this type of groove, as there was stuff like this mentioned on an old IDIB thread.

shame, as he seemed pretty cool when i had said hello and ordered some IDIB stuff.

lol nailed it

saw this from him so many times on the old southern lord doom metal forum
and vlv

gawker needs to report on this

true and interesting imo

i have friends who had bands on his label that got ripped off big time by him

― sarahell, Friday, June 26, 2015 11:37 AM (1 month ago

this is my kinda truth in advertising. from a Discogs record listing:

Record and sleeve have seen some parties and some fights! Oi! You've been warned, rocknroller! NO INSERT! SLEEVE IS COMIN' APART! POPS AND SCRATCHES! If you play it at 45 you can barely hear them

http://www.fridaymusic.com/music/vinyl.html
I just can't get my mind around this.

thats a joke right

180 gram, dude!

Dig a little and you find it's not a real record store, but astroturf e-commerce for the Warner Music Group.

Good looking out.

$31.98 LPs are the new $17.98 CDs

looooooooooooool

Vinyls are BIGGER so they are worth MORE MONEY, amirite?

how long until 180 gram CDs?

the thirty dollar bin

lol

there was 'gold' cds for a time iirc

Indeed there were, and I think there still are. Most of them were made by Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab(s?), purveyors of the half-speed master LPs popular with audiophiles in the 70s and early 80s. I remember those gold CDs cost around $30 (which was INSANE in the late 80s), and Sony soon started peddling their own gold MasterSound series. I assumed those gold dealies were all audiophile snake oil, but apparently some audiophiles swear by them.

tbf some audiophiles will swear that special cables can rutn dirty electrons into clean ones to improve signal flow or some shit

i took the bait once and bought a gold cd by the jam and it sounded like shit.

amazing fidelity then i guess?

i am happy that someone took advantage of that awesome set-up for a punch line.

a friend's dad had some gold Pink Floyd CDs that impressed us because we were ignorant children audiophiles

i should have held on to the jam one. people pay a ton for that crap now on discogs.

yeah, apparently those are worth $$$:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ELTON-JOHN-MADMAN-ACROSS-WATER-Rare-MFSL-Sealed-Gold-CD-/390032087955?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5acfb95b93

(I mean, for that, you can buy a new CD player WITHOUT an Elton John CD. Win-win!)

one of the rarest vinyl box sets prized by audiophiles also happens to be one of the rarest CD sets prized by audiophiles:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GOLD-CD-ROYAL-BALLET-Ansermet-Classic-Records-ULTRA-RARE-LDSCD-6065-/191576007112?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c9ad1e1c8

all those Classic Records CDs sell for insane amounts.

Holy heck!

wow, that's only a 2-CD set

Dan Hartman
Instant Replay (180 Gram Audiophile RED Vinyl/Limited...
$29.98

WTF

Gonna blame all these $30 records for the $45 they are charging for new LPs these days.

man maybe i'm just a total sucker but i really thought those vnyl tools were going to have guilt-ridden mental breakdowns, or would be audited by kickstarter, or something. this suggs

So what was supposed to be better about these "gold" CDs? Did they use a gold foil for reflecting the laser, or what?

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2005/12/09/iconbg_vinyl2_dec10,0.jpg

yeah, they thought a gold covering made things sound better because people love gold. basically.

dvd audio should be the standard for any decent record company. sounds great. when made well. by people who know what they're doing.

the VNYL people have redone their "curated" membership, they now send out three NEW records. but it can't be for $25 a month anymore.