chile

Anyway, lovely country lovely people. Hope you're not a vegetarian.

dunno if we'll make it all the way down to Torres Del Paine (though I'd like to). valparaiso is definitely on my list, though, seems like a pretty cool town

i go there 2day

Say hello to the Andes for me. And watch out for earthquakes.

have fun! it is an amazing place. eat seafood or peruvian because most of chilean food is garbage

yeah i was googling about chilean food and pretty much everyone says that -- which was sort of a bummer since i love to eat but sticking to a diet of peruvian and seafood sounds AOK to me

it is fwiw baffling to me that a country as bounteous as chile would have mediocre cuisine, esp since they produce good wines

yea it is weird. my very quick speculation based on spending only a few months there about 10 years ago says that:

1) there is a big fast food culture, so places serving shit like hot dogs, sandwiches, fried chicken, and french fries are widespread
2) there is less of an indigenous presence compared with neighbors like peru or bolivia, or other latin american countries like mexico
3) the cultural influences at play in chile (spanish, german, and some indigenous but again considerably less so than other latin american countries) are gastronomically less interesting than other countries, e.g. peru (spanish, indigenous, chinese, japanese, african), argentina (spanish, italian), brazil (portuguese, indigenous, african)

that said it has miles and miles and miles of coastline so yea the seafood will be spectacular. also the areas with stronger indigenous presences (e.g. chiloe) have incredible food

you can get really good seafood all over chile. I particularly enjoy merluza negra aka Patagonian toothfish aka "Chilean seabass", and all sorts of chupes aka stews that are made from different types of seafood. you can get them made out of locos - these things https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concholepas_concholepas - if you like mayonnaise (which is important for enjoying Chilean sandwiches/hot dogs) locos mayo (just locos served with mayonnaise) is pretty delicious.

so yeah, the sandwiches. I love Chilean sandwiches. well i loved, I am a vegan now, which will make my next visit to chile somewhat more difficult. homemade bread, some sort of meat, and tomatoes, chili, mayonnaise, avocado etc. steak with green beans is a chacarero. a completo is a hot dog with the works, where the meat is more like the condiment than vice versa.

ceviche is good, peruvian ceviche probably better but luckily there are plenty of peruvian restaurants.

average chilean meal at home is like a piece of meat, some potatoes and some vegetables. luckily the vegetables are very good! it's spring so artichokes will be in season i think.

the fruit cherimoya is pretty great, don't think it'll be in season, and also they cultivate them in California so you've quite probably had one before (although i never see them here in Vancouver bc despite the preponderance of Californian fruit, not even at stupid wholefoods).

empanadas are also good. September is "el mes de la patria", independence day on the 18th and the anniversary of the coup on the 11th. traditional empanada around this time is empanada de pino that contains minced beef, boiled egg, raisins, etc. might sound bad but is really tasty. you can also get fried empanadas with cheese which are dece. also drink some chicha (maize booze) out of a horn thing if the chance arises.

I really enjoy Chilean bread. pan amasado, pan hallula. nice sort of scone-like little round breads that are tasty with some butter and cheese.

little fried pastries called sopaipillas that can be savoury or sweet are tasty.

typically Chilean creole "drink" called mote con huesillo (boiled wheat husks, in a syrupy liquid with a re-hydrated dried peach) is worth trying for sure.

oh yeah and pisco sour is so obvious but in the north of chile they grow these limes calles limones de pica that are kind of like key limes and are basically essential to a proper pisco sour.

called not calles

mmm cherimoya

chileans love them some beef too. most meals I had there involved beef and potatoes.. not awesome but not heinous

choripan = bbq'd chorizo on a bun.

quite like chilean empanadas actually. the ones i've had didn't have raisins in them, though

i've had other latin american countries' empanadas, and i think my favourites are the ones from chile and argentina (their salteñas)

not a fan of the icing sugar on the peruvian ones

never been to chile but I gotta post when someone actually mentions salteñas bc they're the best, paceños forever

I love going to South America just for the fruit tbh

oh man, yeah.

pacae, lucuma (-flavoured ice cream), platano de la isla/manzano, maracuya, guanabana, granadilla, cherimoya

thanks guys! I am so hungry now

yeah in La Paz there's this bougie resto Dumbo on the Prado that makes amazing fruit drinks, w or w/o milk. I love their tumbo drink, tastes like all the best fruits all mixed together, like a liquid fruit cocktail as you get in cans in the USA

jugo de maracuya is the best, lucuma also delicious

I had a pastel de choclo which was topped with caramelised sugar, like a creme brûlée. That was a really weird experience.

i don't think it's the same thing but i had sweet humita in peru, which was really, really good

sweet humitas are really good

In Santiago we ate out at this place and my friend ordered pastel de choclo and it tasted like cigarette ash :(

I think the thing in chile is that everything is really oversweetened (to the point of being like, a public concern) and yeah, fast food culture. My favourite thing was humitas with diced tomatos and avocado with some olive oil mixed in. And marraquettas, which I think are supposed to be the de facto national bread, are great. Empanadas are delicious. Chilean sandwiches are weird. Aside from seafood all the best restaurants I ate at were Peruvian, because omg authentic peruvian food.

yesterday we skied a Cerro and then went to a rodeo

life is good

enjoy it, gbx!

hoping to make it out to patagonia once in this life. antarctica would be a dream come true

well that was fun

ski mountaineering is fun

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jealous!

what peak is that?

How high did you climb?

awesome

wowwwww

peak pictured is volcan lonquimay (first pic is from cerro morro) -- elevation is only 9400ft but we started at about 5000ft

few days earlier we made an attempt at nevados de chillan but came up a couple hundred meters

short, due largely to my lack of fitness

great descent tho. lonquimay on the other hand was bulletproof 30deg ice for virtually the whole way down. great day tho

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/us20003k7a#general_summary

yeah, they're saysing either 7.2 or 7.9.

tsunami alert

man, second time within two years

holy shit

:/

good luck, gbx. we hope you weren't on the coast or on a cliff when it happened!

I'm seeing 8.3, jeez

http://www.rt.com/news/315618-tsunami-waves-chile-earthquake/

I actually landed back in Boston about an hour after it happened -- yikes

Glad you're back safe gbx (and sounds like a rad trip you took). I have lots of family (including mother, who just went back from visiting ) and friends in Chile and no idea how they fared tonight

hope you hear from them soon cg

Thanks gbx. Ok so I heard via my aunt in Santiago that the family is fine, and the damage in general much less than in 2010 (despite only half a Richter's difference) because the shock waves were primarily horizontal rather than vertical in nature (a function of the

displacement at the fault line

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that first one is from my dad's hometown lol

Chilean wine-growing country is p big into Pinochet in general though #problematiccarmenere

Thinking it's too good to get passed.

I'm sure The Economist patted Sri Lanka on the back.

sri lanka has been under 16 IMF programs and none have worked

— jude 🌍 (@whoajude) July 7, 2022

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXG6xgKVsAEKLKL?format=jpg&name=medium

sick burn

I guess it's the mullet approach to editorial: business at the front in print, party at the back on social media.

Finally done decent reporting on the constitution.

https://www.thenation.com/article/world/chile-constitution/

*some

🚨🇨🇱 Scores of UChicago professors and alumni have written to President @gabrielboric to slam the "shameful legacy" of the Chicago Boys that collaborated with Dictator Pinochet to write the 1980 constitution that has strangled Chile https://t.co/BaywoAfgEq

— David Adler (@davidrkadler) September 2, 2022

Don't forget: 80% of Chileans voted to bury Pinochet's constitution back in October 2020. The plebiscite today will come down to the wire, no doubt. But regardless of the outcome, there is no going back. Only steps forward on the path to a new Chilean republic.

— David Adler (@davidrkadler) September 4, 2022

not quite down to the wire

Yup, Adler is in "fight continues" mode. And the only reason we've had this vote is because of street protests.

The proposed new Chilean constitution began the year with majority support, which then crumbled as the disinformation specialists got to work and rumors spread that it would legalize abortion up to the moment of birth, allow people's homes to be confiscated, etc. pic.twitter.com/4eDDIHqUVg

— 🦀 Jon 🦀 Schwarz 🦀 (@schwarz) September 5, 2022

The Mapuches were colonized in the Occupation of the Araucanía (1883) and the Quechuas and Aymaras in the War of the Pacific (1884). Pinochet passed terror laws to steal Mapuche lands in the 1980s. The plurinational constitution would've returned Native self-determination. 2/

— New Amauta (@AmautaNew) September 5, 2022

Like so many Chileans, I'm painfully disappointed that the majority could reject principles of equality and respect outlined in #NuevaConstitucion - principles that came out of a direct cry from the estallido https://t.co/WDjz470DdW

— Naomi Larsson Piñeda (@naomilars) September 6, 2022

https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Constitutional-Council-in-Chile-Remains-in-the-Center-Right-20230508-0001.html