I HATE APPLE

seriously everything in milo's list is good and works well for almost all people. i mean by all means turn them off/revert them if you want, but they are good defaults.

Everything should be opt-in at all times - do you want your iPad to ring alongside your phone? Do you want messages on three devices sitting within 16 inches of each other?

everything should be opt in at all times?

yes and yes i have those settings on.

should the gui be opt-in? terminal is better imo.

i mean there are 1000s of legit complaints that fall under "apple isn't what it used to be", but choice of defaults is not one of them.

the ipad imessage thingy is opt-in, I reconfigured some stuff and wondered why my iPad wasn't getting texts

ipad imessage is enabled by default on a new ipad isn't it?

i think ipad sms message is enabled by default tbh

ah might just be since stuff reset when I swapped sim cards

Feeling a lot of these frustations. iMessage in particular. Nothing more frustrating than finding text messages you never got on your phone on your computer for some reason and wondering how many other messages you missed

i mean there are 1000s of legit complaints that fall under "apple isn't what it used to be", but choice of defaults is not one of them.

It's not 'choice of defaults,' it's that everything added to OS X since 2007 or so has been deeper control on Apple's part of your user experience. Because we have an ecosystem we need to push it on you as aggressively as possible.

not even complaining about iTunes, that shit is just beyond repair now.

right but your list was a list of defaults you disagreed with

"apple used to be so chill, just let the user get on with it"

you can't tweet what you're listening to in apple music unless it's available in apple's cloud, which seems dickish

Xp - defaults that force me into the overbearing and interfering Apple ecosystem.

I didn't say Apple sucks because the default folder view is icon style instead of lists.

"force"

i very sincerely love natural scrolling

lol I was just abt to post how I too <3 natural scrolling and have reversed the scroll on my Win 7 laptop to mimic it

natural scrolling is good

it matches the scrolling on the computers most people use most of the time (aka phones)

is natural scrolling that mouse wheel up = scroll down business? that can go to hell. i have to use a third-party program Scroll Reverser to fix that. you can't treat mouse wheels the same way you do for trackpads and touch screens.

drake the type of guy to use a mouse with a scroll wheel

it matches the scrolling on the computers most people use most of the time (aka phones)

But is opposite of the previous 10 years of trackpad / 20 years of mouse experience I've had and therefore so much more maddening than other Apple defaults that I change right away.

it seemed "natural" to me about 2 minutes after installing whatever os turned that on

also

INVERTED 4 LIFE

Take it to the gay thread.

My house is all-natural.

lol I was just abt to post how I too <3 natural scrolling and have reversed the scroll on my Win 7 laptop to mimic it

I have done likewise with my work computer

bros

natural is the best, especially on touch pads

milo otm.

no, apple doesn't "force" you into its defaults. it just sets everything up in this jagged maze of checked/unchecked's that might soothe grandma wondering where were her earthlink account went, but frustrates nearly everyone else in some fashion.

i use a mouse with a scroll wheel at work and a TRACKBALL at the house.

you've all inspired me to finally go with "natural"

i had been holding out til i got a mac for my work computer but that's never going happen and i dunno why i never realized i could just reverse it myself :/

on my windows 7 work pc i mean

the thing that got me to switch was my ex having a mac and me using his computer all the time and it was such a pain switching back and forth btwn mine and his, couldn't even bear

Why are third-party keyboards so buggy on iOS? I thought at first it was the apps' fault, but they're all as bad as each other (and apparently fine on Android) so I'm assuming it's Apple's fault. They've had long enough to fix it now.

otm, i had to give up on all third-party keyboards because of this

The hardware is still great, but they're really losing ground on the software side. Maybe trying to do too much. Maps, music, email, and the browser are all inferior. And maybe it doesn't even matter as long as they can keep putting out new devices.

their apps just have to be adequate. what do they care if users who know better upgrade to 3rd party alternative (except for itunes, which, gah, the iphone/ipod lock-in there is painful)

recently discovered that google's calendar app is also >>> Apple's

i want a better mail app but everything else seems kind of gimmicky

I like the outlook app. For real.

Actually, this is kind of a tiny tech question, but since we're on mail apps -- I get my work email (outlook) to my Apple mail app, and we use those calendar invitations a lot, and they are just buggy as FUCK for me. For example, every time I get an invite from a certain co-worker, it shows me an old invite instead of the new one so I can't see what the actual date/time is unless I "accept" and then look at my calendar.

ayo Mac nerds, if a Macbook Pro is declining to start up properly, just showing a NO / banned / Ghostbusters-style circle-slash, and an endlessly spinning progress flower wheel thingy, what can one do to encourage it to start starting up again like a goood little computer?

("Reset the System Management Controller Firmware" with shift+ctrl+option?)

Mail app is totally incompetent at Exchange. It gets a lot better in El Capitan/iOS 9 though

if a Macbook Pro is declining to start up properly, just showing a NO / banned / Ghostbusters-style circle-slash

boot from an external and try running disk warrior or disk utility. If those guys don't see it, you're out of luck. Then it's data rescue time or bring it to the pros. Or replace the drive, it's backed up right?

xx-post that happened to me two months ago. Apple genius (well, a trainee that was not too savvy I thought) tried stet's suggestions and a reboot through an external (usb) drive (x-post as per dan's suggestion) but nothing worked.
Turned out to be a faulty HD cable. As I'd replaced the HD that came with the MBP (2010) with a Samsung SSD drive about a year ago I'm not sure if the issue was Apple or Samsung hardware. I'm guessing the latter. Was HUGELY relieved that it was just the (<$5) cable.

The hardware is still great, but they're really losing ground on the software side. Maybe trying to do too much. Maps, music, email, and the browser are all inferior. And maybe it doesn't even matter as long as they can keep putting out new devices.

― calstars, Dienstag, 15. September 2015 02:30 (13 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Speaking as a web developer it's quite remarkable what a clunky piece of garbage desktop Safari has become in the last 2-3 years. Even Firefox recovered well in comparison, not to speak of IE.

I have no probs with current Safari, glad to be the outlier

Yah, I've had the HD ribbon go on a MacBook Pro. Can't remember if I got the no-entry sign on boot up or a question mark.

Apparently it's quite common, and yes, a huge relief to find out it was a cheap fix and that the disk was OK.

I have no probs with current Safari, glad to be the outlier

No problems here either.

Really don't like Apple's OS policy of "it was working, so we fixed it." Absolutely no reason to replace mDNS responder with half-baked DiscoveryD (10.10.4 switched it back). I'm fine with Mail and Safari, but can CoreData be made usable once and for all?

I am sure they had reasons but the new version was definitely half-baked and shipped too early