Shady scams and other silly business ideas to take advantage of earnest new vinyl collectors

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true and interesting imo

gr8080, Tuesday, 28 July 2015 18:46 (eight years ago) link

i have friends who had bands on his label that got ripped off big time by him

― sarahell, Friday, June 26, 2015 11:37 AM (1 month ago

sarahell, Tuesday, 28 July 2015 20:27 (eight years ago) link

this is my kinda truth in advertising. from a Discogs record listing:

Record and sleeve have seen some parties and some fights! Oi! You've been warned, rocknroller! NO INSERT! SLEEVE IS COMIN' APART! POPS AND SCRATCHES! If you play it at 45 you can barely hear them

scott seward, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 03:41 (eight years ago) link

http://www.fridaymusic.com/music/vinyl.html
I just can't get my mind around this.

JacobSanders, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 12:32 (eight years ago) link

thats a joke right

gr8080, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 13:21 (eight years ago) link

180 gram, dude!

sleeve, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 13:56 (eight years ago) link

Dig a little and you find it's not a real record store, but astroturf e-commerce for the Warner Music Group.

saki, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 14:03 (eight years ago) link

Good looking out.

how's life, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 14:07 (eight years ago) link

$31.98 LPs are the new $17.98 CDs

sleeve, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 14:08 (eight years ago) link

looooooooooooool

marcos, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 14:17 (eight years ago) link

Vinyls are BIGGER so they are worth MORE MONEY, amirite?

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 14:17 (eight years ago) link

how long until 180 gram CDs?

feargal czukay (NickB), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 14:19 (eight years ago) link

the thirty dollar bin

gr8080, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 14:25 (eight years ago) link

lol

andrew m., Wednesday, 29 July 2015 15:02 (eight years ago) link

there was 'gold' cds for a time iirc

Cosmic Slop, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 15:07 (eight years ago) link

Indeed there were, and I think there still are. Most of them were made by Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab(s?), purveyors of the half-speed master LPs popular with audiophiles in the 70s and early 80s. I remember those gold CDs cost around $30 (which was INSANE in the late 80s), and Sony soon started peddling their own gold MasterSound series. I assumed those gold dealies were all audiophile snake oil, but apparently some audiophiles swear by them.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 15:20 (eight years ago) link

tbf some audiophiles will swear that special cables can rutn dirty electrons into clean ones to improve signal flow or some shit

bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 15:27 (eight years ago) link

i took the bait once and bought a gold cd by the jam and it sounded like shit.

scott seward, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 15:33 (eight years ago) link

amazing fidelity then i guess?

feargal czukay (NickB), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 15:34 (eight years ago) link

i am happy that someone took advantage of that awesome set-up for a punch line.

scott seward, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 15:35 (eight years ago) link

a friend's dad had some gold Pink Floyd CDs that impressed us because we were ignorant children audiophiles

oh, i am a lonlely poster. i live in a box of posts. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 15:39 (eight years ago) link

i should have held on to the jam one. people pay a ton for that crap now on discogs.

scott seward, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 15:40 (eight years ago) link

yeah, apparently those are worth $$$:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ELTON-JOHN-MADMAN-ACROSS-WATER-Rare-MFSL-Sealed-Gold-CD-/390032087955?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5acfb95b93

(I mean, for that, you can buy a new CD player WITHOUT an Elton John CD. Win-win!)

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 15:42 (eight years ago) link

one of the rarest vinyl box sets prized by audiophiles also happens to be one of the rarest CD sets prized by audiophiles:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GOLD-CD-ROYAL-BALLET-Ansermet-Classic-Records-ULTRA-RARE-LDSCD-6065-/191576007112?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c9ad1e1c8

scott seward, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 15:46 (eight years ago) link

all those Classic Records CDs sell for insane amounts.

scott seward, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 15:47 (eight years ago) link

Holy heck!

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 15:52 (eight years ago) link

wow, that's only a 2-CD set

sleeve, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 15:59 (eight years ago) link

Dan Hartman
Instant Replay (180 Gram Audiophile RED Vinyl/Limited...
$29.98

WTF

skip, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 16:09 (eight years ago) link

Gonna blame all these $30 records for the $45 they are charging for new LPs these days.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 16:16 (eight years ago) link

man maybe i'm just a total sucker but i really thought those vnyl tools were going to have guilt-ridden mental breakdowns, or would be audited by kickstarter, or something. this suggs

soyrev, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 16:16 (eight years ago) link

So what was supposed to be better about these "gold" CDs? Did they use a gold foil for reflecting the laser, or what?

Tuomas, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 16:21 (eight years ago) link

yeah, they thought a gold covering made things sound better because people love gold. basically.

scott seward, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 17:00 (eight years ago) link

dvd audio should be the standard for any decent record company. sounds great. when made well. by people who know what they're doing.

scott seward, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 17:03 (eight years ago) link

the VNYL people have redone their "curated" membership, they now send out three NEW records. but it can't be for $25 a month anymore.

nomar, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 17:07 (eight years ago) link

I still see VNYL ads. So clearly they are either doing well or got some kind of cash infusion.

skip, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 18:42 (eight years ago) link

yeah lots of dollar bin reisues blah blah blah but Friday Music reissues sound really AWESOME, no lie.

And MFSL Nevermind is one of the greatest sounding CDs ever.

brimstead, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 19:11 (eight years ago) link

MFSL wasn't just about the "gold", they were mastered differently

the only decent cd issue of deep purple in rock is the Audio Fidelity gold cd, fwiw.

brimstead, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 19:13 (eight years ago) link

I knew a guy who bought the DSOTM gold disc, and I remember something in the liner notes about how the CD laser was able to read gold better/easier or something.

That's true about the mastering, though (at least for MSFL -- dunno about the Sony/CBS gold stuff).

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 19:18 (eight years ago) link

When I first saw this in a store, I assumed it was a joke. But it makes sense: if you're gonna dig through the murk, get the best engineers to do the digging:
http://www.24-karat.de/mfsl/udcd-724.gif

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 19:19 (eight years ago) link

yeah, the (supposed) improvement on those CDs is not the gold layer but the mastering. Some are better than others.

skip, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 19:46 (eight years ago) link

you've never really heard sister ray til you've heard it in 24kt

tylerw, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 20:02 (eight years ago) link

The STEVE HOFFMAN mastering, you guys.

a poetic ODE to FORNICATION (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 20:30 (eight years ago) link

"It's like you're Waldo Jeffers and Sheila Klein is actually in the room with you running that sheet metal cutter through your head!"

Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 20:37 (eight years ago) link

you can really hear the tiny red arcs pulsating

a poetic ODE to FORNICATION (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 20:38 (eight years ago) link

you'd think there wouldn't be much you could do with sister ray, but something like for instance the "swan mix" sounds significantly different from the standard version...

rushomancy, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 21:24 (eight years ago) link

i took the bait once and bought a gold cd by the jam and it sounded like shit.

Was that the MFSL twofer of Sound Effects and (iirc) Setting Sons? I used to see that one and their Marianne Faithfull Broken English/Strange Weather edition all the time when I was first buying CDs. They were like $25 at Best Buy, and usually the only titles they had for those artists.

Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 21:56 (eight years ago) link

If I ever see unopened classical CDs I'm going to have to pick them up from now on.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 22:49 (eight years ago) link

MFSLs are generally regarded as superior by even novice ears.

austinato (Austin), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 23:26 (eight years ago) link

i think the thing with the gold was better reflectivity/fewer dropped bits.

Thus Sang Freud, Thursday, 30 July 2015 11:14 (eight years ago) link


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