Shady scams and other silly business ideas to take advantage of earnest new vinyl collectors

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one of the rarest vinyl box sets prized by audiophiles also happens to be one of the rarest CD sets prized by audiophiles:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GOLD-CD-ROYAL-BALLET-Ansermet-Classic-Records-ULTRA-RARE-LDSCD-6065-/191576007112?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c9ad1e1c8

scott seward, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 15:46 (eight years ago) link

all those Classic Records CDs sell for insane amounts.

scott seward, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 15:47 (eight years ago) link

Holy heck!

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 15:52 (eight years ago) link

wow, that's only a 2-CD set

sleeve, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 15:59 (eight years ago) link

Dan Hartman
Instant Replay (180 Gram Audiophile RED Vinyl/Limited...
$29.98

WTF

skip, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 16:09 (eight years ago) link

Gonna blame all these $30 records for the $45 they are charging for new LPs these days.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 16:16 (eight years ago) link

man maybe i'm just a total sucker but i really thought those vnyl tools were going to have guilt-ridden mental breakdowns, or would be audited by kickstarter, or something. this suggs

soyrev, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 16:16 (eight years ago) link

So what was supposed to be better about these "gold" CDs? Did they use a gold foil for reflecting the laser, or what?

Tuomas, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 16:21 (eight years ago) link

yeah, they thought a gold covering made things sound better because people love gold. basically.

scott seward, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 17:00 (eight years ago) link

dvd audio should be the standard for any decent record company. sounds great. when made well. by people who know what they're doing.

scott seward, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 17:03 (eight years ago) link

the VNYL people have redone their "curated" membership, they now send out three NEW records. but it can't be for $25 a month anymore.

nomar, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 17:07 (eight years ago) link

I still see VNYL ads. So clearly they are either doing well or got some kind of cash infusion.

skip, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 18:42 (eight years ago) link

yeah lots of dollar bin reisues blah blah blah but Friday Music reissues sound really AWESOME, no lie.

And MFSL Nevermind is one of the greatest sounding CDs ever.

brimstead, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 19:11 (eight years ago) link

MFSL wasn't just about the "gold", they were mastered differently

the only decent cd issue of deep purple in rock is the Audio Fidelity gold cd, fwiw.

brimstead, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 19:13 (eight years ago) link

I knew a guy who bought the DSOTM gold disc, and I remember something in the liner notes about how the CD laser was able to read gold better/easier or something.

That's true about the mastering, though (at least for MSFL -- dunno about the Sony/CBS gold stuff).

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 19:18 (eight years ago) link

When I first saw this in a store, I assumed it was a joke. But it makes sense: if you're gonna dig through the murk, get the best engineers to do the digging:
http://www.24-karat.de/mfsl/udcd-724.gif

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 19:19 (eight years ago) link

yeah, the (supposed) improvement on those CDs is not the gold layer but the mastering. Some are better than others.

skip, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 19:46 (eight years ago) link

you've never really heard sister ray til you've heard it in 24kt

tylerw, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 20:02 (eight years ago) link

The STEVE HOFFMAN mastering, you guys.

a poetic ODE to FORNICATION (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 20:30 (eight years ago) link

"It's like you're Waldo Jeffers and Sheila Klein is actually in the room with you running that sheet metal cutter through your head!"

Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 20:37 (eight years ago) link

you can really hear the tiny red arcs pulsating

a poetic ODE to FORNICATION (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 20:38 (eight years ago) link

you'd think there wouldn't be much you could do with sister ray, but something like for instance the "swan mix" sounds significantly different from the standard version...

rushomancy, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 21:24 (eight years ago) link

i took the bait once and bought a gold cd by the jam and it sounded like shit.

Was that the MFSL twofer of Sound Effects and (iirc) Setting Sons? I used to see that one and their Marianne Faithfull Broken English/Strange Weather edition all the time when I was first buying CDs. They were like $25 at Best Buy, and usually the only titles they had for those artists.

Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 21:56 (eight years ago) link

If I ever see unopened classical CDs I'm going to have to pick them up from now on.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 22:49 (eight years ago) link

MFSLs are generally regarded as superior by even novice ears.

austinato (Austin), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 23:26 (eight years ago) link

i think the thing with the gold was better reflectivity/fewer dropped bits.

Thus Sang Freud, Thursday, 30 July 2015 11:14 (eight years ago) link

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bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 30 July 2015 15:27 (eight years ago) link

gonna miss the twitter-shade for shitty VNYL hauls.

or are they giving out shitty new rekkidz? it'd be funny if now the new sealed vinyl was shit like, uhh, some local lounge singer's giveaway promo copy

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 30 July 2015 17:04 (eight years ago) link

lol andrew

Οὖτις, Thursday, 30 July 2015 17:11 (eight years ago) link

VNYL has invaded my FB feed with 'Sponsored' ads!

Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 30 July 2015 20:50 (eight years ago) link

They're onto you. #VNYL #PodPeople #NeverSleepAgain

a poetic ODE to FORNICATION (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 30 July 2015 20:52 (eight years ago) link

Not sure if this is the right thread but I just got dosed by a discogs seller whose "VG" copy of More Specials includes a Side B that appears to have been steeped in mayonnaise for the last six years. Is there any kind of record-cleaning goo or gizmo or method that *isn't a shady scam, and will let me hear Stereotypes Pts 1&2 in its proper glory?

Credit: howtokeepapositiveattitudedotcom (stevie), Thursday, 6 August 2015 18:10 (eight years ago) link

I use this:

http://www.spincleanrecordwasher.com/

sleeve, Thursday, 6 August 2015 18:12 (eight years ago) link

a lot of ppl I've seen on FB are reporting success with the wood glue method

a silly gif of awkward larping (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 6 August 2015 18:51 (eight years ago) link

Wow, $80? You could almost buy two new LPs for that.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 6 August 2015 18:59 (eight years ago) link

Glue is a miracle worker, it definitely does the trick.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 6 August 2015 19:00 (eight years ago) link

$80 won't even get you one new Neil record

a silly gif of awkward larping (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 6 August 2015 19:08 (eight years ago) link

i had several MFSL CDs over the years (and AudioFidelity/DCC Hoffman masters). some of them are amazing and some aren't as amazing. I sold most of them in the past few years for bank because I stopped caring.

akm, Thursday, 6 August 2015 20:28 (eight years ago) link

Only MFSL I have is Tommy. It does sound great, and "Eyesight to the Blind" uses an alternate vocal take unavailable anywhere else.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 6 August 2015 20:44 (eight years ago) link

I feel like my local Best Buy had the same MFSL copy of Dark Side of the Moon sitting out in the special items/box sets area for like five years. Who knows, though, maybe it was a steady seller. Anyway I think it's the only one of those I ever saw much in stores.

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 6 August 2015 21:33 (eight years ago) link

I've heard hand washing with dish soap in warm water works OK.

nickn, Thursday, 6 August 2015 21:36 (eight years ago) link

XP If you never saw a MFSL Atom Heart Mother in a shop in the late 90s you were doing it wrong.

Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 6 August 2015 22:00 (eight years ago) link

Xx doesn't "VG" pretty much mean it skips and jumps? That's what I thought.

kraudive, Thursday, 6 August 2015 22:31 (eight years ago) link

Hell no! Even regular Good records shouldn't skip, hopefully not even Fair

Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 6 August 2015 22:38 (eight years ago) link

mayonaising is permitted iirc

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 7 August 2015 23:54 (eight years ago) link

VG means surface noise audible in quiet passages as a general rule. Wood glue is great for cleaning, but 9 times out of ten using a fresh sponge and lukewarm water with detergent will do the job.

Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 9 August 2015 18:04 (eight years ago) link


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