and whether pizzas can themselves be sandwiches
― bizarro gazzara, Friday, 31 July 2015 14:38 (eight years ago) link
What isn't a hot dog?
― DavidLeeRoth, Friday, 31 July 2015 14:38 (eight years ago) link
xp well, is the pizzaburger a pizza?
― j., Friday, 31 July 2015 14:38 (eight years ago) link
is a calzone a sandwich? if i put chicken salad between two slices of domino's meateor is it a sandwich?
― bizarro gazzara, Friday, 31 July 2015 14:39 (eight years ago) link
when i went to australia some schoolkids told me they don't have hot dogs, just sausages in sandwich bread
― nxd, Friday, 31 July 2015 14:39 (eight years ago) link
Are bunless pizza crust cheeseburgers sandwiches?
http://cdn.foodbeast.com.s3.amazonaws.com/content/uploads/2013/09/pizza-hut-cheeseburger-pizza.jpg
― You open your face and all that comes out is garbage. (Old Lunch), Friday, 31 July 2015 14:39 (eight years ago) link
open-faced sandwiches, if they are
― j., Friday, 31 July 2015 14:40 (eight years ago) link
looks like one giant open-faced sandwich to me xp
basically i think i'm coming to the realisation that everything is a sandwich
― bizarro gazzara, Friday, 31 July 2015 14:41 (eight years ago) link
Go ahead guys, go about your day to day life calling hot dogs sandwiches, go do that
― Songs that sound like SimCopter (sleepingbag), Friday, 31 July 2015 14:43 (eight years ago) link
xp but 'sandwiches' were invented at some point in human history
so what you're really saying is that the earl of sandwich DISCOVERED that everything was a sandwich
… was ALREADY a sandwich
had always been a sandwich
― j., Friday, 31 July 2015 14:43 (eight years ago) link
we're through the sandwich looking glass here for sure
― bizarro gazzara, Friday, 31 July 2015 14:45 (eight years ago) link
it's sandwiches all the way down
http://content-img.newsinc.com/jpg/1171/28437689/18772360.jpg?t=1422290460
― j., Friday, 31 July 2015 14:47 (eight years ago) link
We have got onto slippery ice. Back to the rough ground meat.
― jmm, Friday, 31 July 2015 14:50 (eight years ago) link
This question has already been considered by Judge John Hodgman and he made his ruling here: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/05/04/magazine/04-one-page-magazine.html
He says: If your friend’s hot dog is a sandwich, why doesn’t he just cut it in half? HE CAN’T, CAN HE? Because it is not a sandwich, but a hot dog, indivisible and sui generis — a culinary anomaly so compelling that we actually eat it, even when it is cooked in a tank on a cart.
― Modern French Music from Failure to Boulez (askance johnson), Friday, 31 July 2015 14:54 (eight years ago) link
your mom
― e-bouquet (mattresslessness), Friday, 31 July 2015 14:56 (eight years ago) link
wtf, of course you can cut a hot dog in half
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n289/billyboy71_2006/NJ%20Hot%20Dog%20Tour%202009/IMG_0104.jpg
this is like some reverse-king-solomon shit
― bizarro gazzara, Friday, 31 July 2015 14:57 (eight years ago) link
(i realise those aren;t halves of the same dog but you get my meaning)
xp how is it reverse, he cut the baby in half just like that
― j., Friday, 31 July 2015 14:58 (eight years ago) link
not so sure he did tbh
― bizarro gazzara, Friday, 31 July 2015 15:00 (eight years ago) link
any particular reason you've chosen hot dogs for this question j? literally everything can be categorised as either a sandwich or not a sandwich
your mom is
― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Friday, 31 July 2015 15:06 (eight years ago) link
A hot dog sandwich is always a sandwich. A hot dog is sometimes a sandwich. A cheese dog is never a sandwich. A chili dog is two sandwiches, surprisingly enough.
― You open your face and all that comes out is garbage. (Old Lunch), Friday, 31 July 2015 15:10 (eight years ago) link
what about a corn dog?
― bizarro gazzara, Friday, 31 July 2015 15:14 (eight years ago) link
like a 360-degree sandwich
Negative sandwich.
― You open your face and all that comes out is garbage. (Old Lunch), Friday, 31 July 2015 15:15 (eight years ago) link
I have seen quasi-serious discussion of whether a hot dog is, or is not, a taco.
http://the-toast.net/tag/is-a-hot-dog-a-taco/
I have not seen (until now) discussion of whether a hot dog is a sandwich.
This raises (not begs) questions like: is a sandwich a taco? Is a taco a sandwich? The world awaits.
If stuff-in-a-pita is a sandwich, then why not a quesadilla or calzone?
― Ye Mad Puffin, Friday, 31 July 2015 15:15 (eight years ago) link
A pizza folded in half is basically a taco.
http://www.midcenturymenu.com/2013/02/frankfurter-loaf-1967/
― hunangarage, Friday, 31 July 2015 15:19 (eight years ago) link
stunned
― j., Friday, 31 July 2015 15:20 (eight years ago) link
a copernican revolution
#notallbeef
― how's life, Friday, 31 July 2015 15:21 (eight years ago) link
https://my.vanderbilt.edu/johnmcjunkins/files/2013/02/nicolaus-copernicus.jpghttp://www.indypartyrentals.com/items/Gold_Medal_Lil_Diggity_Hot_Dog_Roller_Grill/gm8023%5B1%5D.jpg
― j., Friday, 31 July 2015 15:21 (eight years ago) link
And a taco folded in half is... a messy shirt.
― Ye Mad Puffin, Friday, 31 July 2015 15:22 (eight years ago) link
so if you take a couple of slices of frankfurter loaf and spread some egg salad between them that's definitely a sandwich right
― bizarro gazzara, Friday, 31 July 2015 15:23 (eight years ago) link
yes
― dead (Lamp), Friday, 31 July 2015 15:24 (eight years ago) link
a taco folded on itself several times is heading into like a savoury baklava situation imo
― bizarro gazzara, Friday, 31 July 2015 15:25 (eight years ago) link
Pass gravy and barbecue sauce.
This got me a trip to the emergency room once.
― rack of lamb of god (WilliamC), Friday, 31 July 2015 15:25 (eight years ago) link
Is this a sandwich y/n
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-5pssQET93R4/UIy7YH7DPzI/AAAAAAAADgk/_B9MamkIRng/s1600/011.jpg
― You open your face and all that comes out is garbage. (Old Lunch), Friday, 31 July 2015 15:26 (eight years ago) link
sure why not
― bizarro gazzara, Friday, 31 July 2015 15:27 (eight years ago) link
ftr I was composing my poll while on a conference call and completely missed mattressless's post
― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Friday, 31 July 2015 15:28 (eight years ago) link
damn this is a hot topic in 2015
john hodgman and hannibal buress and now ILX weighing in
― Bouncy Castlevania (Will M.), Friday, 31 July 2015 15:30 (eight years ago) link
on the menu at the O hot dogs are listed in a separate category from sandwiches, this answers the question, praise be to God
― droit au butt (Euler), Friday, 31 July 2015 15:31 (eight years ago) link
xp greasy finger feeling around in the forearm fat for a faint pulse
― j., Friday, 31 July 2015 15:31 (eight years ago) link
euler surely you of all people must see that that could be a merely verbal distinction
― j., Friday, 31 July 2015 15:32 (eight years ago) link
back to the meats themselves!!!
tbh I just want a plate of fries from the O
the objectivity of the sandwich is not affected by the fact it is a matter of our arbitrary choice which part of all the food on the earth we mark off and elect to call "the sandwich".
― droit au butt (Euler), Friday, 31 July 2015 15:59 (eight years ago) link
the sandwich fusion
not to be confused with a fusion sandwich
― j., Friday, 31 July 2015 16:04 (eight years ago) link
The Weather Report Reuben
― You open your face and all that comes out is garbage. (Old Lunch), Friday, 31 July 2015 16:06 (eight years ago) link
is a hot dog identical to a hot dog in a bun
― droit au butt (Euler), Friday, 31 July 2015 17:04 (eight years ago) link
well how could it be if a bun is not nothing
― j., Friday, 31 July 2015 17:09 (eight years ago) link
I would submit that once you establish the bread-->meat-->bread arrangement, the burden of proof shifts to the "not a sandwich" party. And I have not seen one argument re: "not a sandwich" that has gone beyond "it doesn't feel like a sandwich to me."
― Andrew "Hit Dice" Clay (PBKR), Saturday, 15 December 2018 00:35 (five years ago) link
yes and facts don't care about your feelings of course
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Saturday, 15 December 2018 00:38 (five years ago) link
I have not seen one argument re: "not a sandwich" that has gone beyond "it doesn't feel like a sandwich to me."
Fair point, PBKR, but. Let's not be too hasty in dismissing that argument on its face (or its open-ended).
A lot of categorization is exactly that. Let's say someone asks you what you want to eat and you say "oh, how about some soup?" Bowl of chicken noodle, cool. Bowl of chowder, okay. Bowl of gazpacho, hell yeah. Bowl of Cheerios... what the fuck?
Now. Somebody asks you what you want to eat and you say, "a sandwich." They bring you a BLT, cool. Croque-monsieur? Cool (even though it is not bread-meat-bread). They bring you an Oreo, you'd be like WTF. A taco? Um, thanks but huh?
A hot dog is a middle case. For a lot of people it does, in fact, hinge on whether it "feels" sandwichy.
Also the framing is flawed.Peanut butter and jelly; grilled cheese. Neither is bread/meat/bread but both are definitely sandwiches.
― Anne Frankenstein (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 15 December 2018 00:58 (five years ago) link
cheerios relation to soup is not like hot dogs relation to a sandwich at all. soup is composed of vegetable and meat and stock/juice/water. a sandwich is meat between pieces of bread
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Saturday, 15 December 2018 01:01 (five years ago) link
(apart from the examples you have listed which are exceptions which prove the rule!)
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Saturday, 15 December 2018 01:02 (five years ago) link
an open faced sandwich is not a sandwich
― Pierrot with a thousand farces (wins), Saturday, 15 December 2018 08:31 (five years ago) link
i’m a chef based in chicago i sell plates for affordable prices ($35-$50). I’m revolutionizing the way we see and taste hotdogs, I need more exposure & more clients. A simple RT/Like can make that happen. pic.twitter.com/dqUAyQkzLx— JUNKYARDPOPSTAR (@HEFFYRAPS) July 12, 2019
― j., Saturday, 20 July 2019 03:09 (four years ago) link
I hate this, but I recently decided David Lee Roth is a genius. So I am paralyzed.
― Cecil replies to your e-mails (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 20 July 2019 03:17 (four years ago) link
Hot dogs, when you really think about what they are, are horrifying. An affront to nature. And I feel that the best way to truly revolutionize them is to bring their inherent horror to the forefront where it cannot be ignored. This is what I do to your food. Enjoy.
― My nephew accidentally swalled five quarters and thee dimes. (Old Lunch), Saturday, 20 July 2019 03:50 (four years ago) link
Do you like? I have made your hot dog look like a centipede drizzled with the viscera of an unwell fish. Bon...apetit.
― My nephew accidentally swalled five quarters and thee dimes. (Old Lunch), Saturday, 20 July 2019 03:54 (four years ago) link
You know that JUNKYARDPOPSTAR (@HEFFYRAPS) is not really a chef right
― shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Saturday, 20 July 2019 08:26 (four years ago) link
completely disgusting foods our parents ate
― ☮ (peace, man), Saturday, 20 July 2019 11:43 (four years ago) link
#notallhotdogs
― pomenitul, Saturday, 20 July 2019 11:50 (four years ago) link
In much the same way that a corndog is unquestionably a popsicle, anyone who's willing to breach all bounds of human decency in preparing a hot dog is a chef in my book.
― My nephew accidentally swalled five quarters and thee dimes. (Old Lunch), Saturday, 20 July 2019 12:30 (four years ago) link
https://buttondown.email/theswordandthesandwich/archive/notable-sandwiches-89-hot-dog/
Of course, this is one of the defining debates in Internet history—it’s been addressed by everyone from Ruth Bader Ginsberg to John Hodgman, with associated verdicts by myriad major publications and many winking, smarmy Twitter-trend pieces besides. It’s been the subject of frenetic and often tedious contention for over a decade now.But, dear readers, I wanted—no, needed—to seek out wisdom from higher authorities, rather than simply glean gristle and leftover bits of pre-prepared content and stuff them into the sausage casing of this column.So I emailed thirty professors of semiotics, linguistics, ontology, psycholinguistics, information science and other pertinent disciplines, and encouraged these academics to get in touch.
― jaymc, Monday, 18 March 2024 23:41 (one month ago) link
I had two chicago dogs for dinner at home last night. Great sandwiches.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 12:50 (one month ago) link
Tea is soup
― m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 13:03 (one month ago) link
Soup is tea probably more accurate.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 13:26 (one month ago) link
I'm just going to refer to anything edible as "food" from now on and not bother being more specific
― silverfish, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 13:27 (one month ago) link
hot dogs are a Christmas movie are not a sandwich
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 15:41 (one month ago) link
"Sometimes a hotdog is just a hotdog (by the way, this must be written as one word, as it is a compound noun; "hot dog" describes a dog… that is hot). "
people who think English is German:
Sarah Stroup, Philologist and Professor of Classics, University of Washington Jesse Sheidlower, Lexicographer, Columbia University; Former Editor-at-Large, The Oxford English DictionaryFrankie Huang, Consulting SemioticianJ.D. Connor, Associate Professor, Media Studies, School of Cinematic Arts, University of Southern CaliforniaJim Lohmar, Senior Lecturer of Classical Languages, College of Charleston
― adam t. (abanana), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 15:48 (one month ago) link
hot dog describes a sandwichhotdog describes skiing
― adam t. (abanana), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 15:51 (one month ago) link
I'm on Team 'It's a Weird Sandwich, But Close Enough', in part because if it ain't a sandwich, then it's a freak of nature.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 15:53 (one month ago) link
I think in degrees of sandwichness. A hot dog is more of a sandwich that than a chair is a sandwich.
But a BLT is more of a sandwich than a hot dog is.
― alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 18:52 (one month ago) link
Please see this story in which a man in New Zealand and a man in Spain Noth placed bread on the ground at the same time. For a brief time, the earth and everything on it was a sandwich.
https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/environment/a30633840/earth-sandwich/
― alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 19:55 (one month ago) link
Last night I was thinking that a definition of "sandwich" might be: some sort of protein wrapped in some sort of carbs, which would make you, dear reader, a sandwich—and I am a sandwich, as well.
This is funny, and this may be an idiotic question, but which part of the human body is a carb now?
― Jordan s/t (Jordan), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 20:14 (one month ago) link
mmmm parts of yr liver really and that's about it
― gbx, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 20:17 (one month ago) link
You are meat in a skin casing. You are a sausage.
― alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 22:00 (one month ago) link
“You’d expect supermarkets around the world to have the exact same kind [of bread],” Naude told The World. “Apparently not.”
― visiting, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 22:11 (one month ago) link
What?
― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 00:33 (one month ago) link
this debate is a clear broth
― 145 feet up in a Jeffrey Pine (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 02:29 (one month ago) link