Pavement:Classic or Dud

tylerw otm. "CRCR" is, imo, the best of the lot. There's an unreleased track called "All My Friends" that's prob my #1 Pavement song of all time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6JK4p_vnqo

I'm not buying albums I already own on CD again
would generally agree, but paying $12 for almost 2 hrs of bonus material seemed worth the cash.

"All My Friends" is unusual in the sense that a snipped edit of the instrumental ending of it was released as a b-side to "Gold Soundz" as "Exit Theory (edit)"... I wonder why the full track was never released until the reissue?

I kind of like the idea of having this on one collection separated from another album

yeah it makes sense -- though i always thought they should do a complete BBC sessions double LP or something. those things are so fun.
friend just sent me a tape of this summer of 96 show they did during the brighten the corners sessions, where malkmus is just making up lyrics for all of their new songs. a total blast.

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Exit Theory (Edit) is on the same single as my all time favourite Pavement song, Strings of Nashville.

that's a really good list that spiral chose. some of my very faves in there.

hmmm few too many spiral songs though

i'm aok with this existing and would def consider buying vol. 2 if vinyl was my primary mode of listening, but it's weird they're promoting this as a new album named THE SECRET HISTORY when its a reissue of widely available stuff

No reason to buy this, but man these are some great songs. Song for song, this band's B sides were almost as good as their album tracks

100% dud

This tweet from a couple of months ago hit too close to home.

http://i.imgur.com/o9tXyLo.png

O_____O

Fuk

Haha 13 yrs is what I think of the original "S & E" coming out

"Yeah came out in the early 90s dude, that was like, I dunno 13 yrs ago right?"

Knew most of these, and leaves some out, but pretty cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMaR6ljTK6c

Huh never noticed the croce or sly bits before lol

where's that video of Mark "E" Smith pissing his pants

Off the top of my head, missing are Raspberry Beret/Cut Your Hair and Hip Priest/Our Singer, but I'm curious about other ones....

Also, I'm guessing that "nyah nyah nya nya nya" predates the sly bit?

Ring around the rosie

Stop Breathin' =
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VmM8qRRLwU

No Tan Lines = And Your Bird Can Sing

Buddy Holly one is a stretch

the silence kit melody is almost note for note "Everyday," I thought everybody knew that

problem with things like the buddy holly is that it's just a really rote diatonic melody... bit like those youtube videos that point out how a whole bunch of I V vi IV songs are "copying" each other. there are the basic tools of pop music! focusing on tiny little melodic cells is kind of missing the point when all these people are using the same twelve notes. the bit i like about the silence kit melody is that nice little switch on "grandmothers advice" anyway :)

Silent kid, it's a-gettin' closer
Goin' faster than a rollercoaster
Love like yours will surely come my way
A-hey, a-hey-hey

― love is how's life tonight (how's life), Thursday, July 31, 2014 9:20 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

problem with things like the buddy holly is that it's just a really rote diatonic melody... bit like those youtube videos that point out how a whole bunch of I V vi IV songs are "copying" each other. there are the basic tools of pop music! focusing on tiny little melodic cells is kind of missing the point when all these people are using the same twelve notes. the bit i like about the silence kit melody is that nice little switch on "grandmothers advice" anyway :)

― linee,

I don't think we're meant to take the video seriously. I mean the Sly Stone bit is out of a nursery rhyme.

I love S Kit and never noticed this either.

Chewing
Screwing
Myself with my hand

Bob didn't seem to take too kindly to it on FB, but maybe I misread his reaction.
I have no problems with these borrowings if they are real. Makes the point that they are magpies of the classic rock era

And the Sly one is bogus, the Buddy Holly one is as clear to me as the Croce one

Sly and 'stereo' belong here:
Songs that incorporate the "nan nanny boo boo" melody
But the buddy holly one is an obvious rip, but also a canonical example of nicking a tune but making your own clearly distinct song from it.

I just hope no one gets sued over it.

what is the one at 1:35?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU7vXN-2j3A

lol I even own that album duh

West and Nastanovich sit in with a Pavement cover band in Nashville: http://pitchfork.com/news/61813-pavement-members-perform-pavement-songs-with-pavement-covers-band/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5iDsc4pCc0

While Malkmus guested on a song with these folks for a song on an album (first publicized back in September):

Soldiers Of Fortune are a supergroup featuring Kid Millions (Man Forever, Oneida), Barry London (Oneida), Matt Sweeney (Chavez, Zwan), Jesper Eklow (Endless Boogie), Brad Truax (Interpol), and Mike Bones (Oneida). On November 6, Mexican Summer will release their new album Early Risers, which features contributions from Stephen Malkmus, Cass McCombs, Dan Melchior, Comets on Fire's Ethan Miller, and others

https://youtu.be/cyGbBCc8aU0

my 3rd wave coffee shop anthem

walked past a chipotle today; they were blasting harness your hopes.

https://youtu.be/LoqsS_DiU_A

enjoy this sweet Pavement ripoff that plays over the end credits of Kelly Reichardt's 1994 film River of Grass:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJOwsOfQgFs

Sammy has a thread re: Sammy - C/D? , but yeah no they are most notable for either being the best band to have a future C-level billionaire exec on lead guitar... or Gerard Cosloy's least favorite band of the 90s.

I think that's what Pavement sounds like to people who don't like Pavement.

I was able to convince some pals that Malkmus was recording new Pavement songs under a different name. Look at the freakin' artwork! Listen to the freakin' vocals!!! https://clearance.bandcamp.com/track/close-encounters

In another alternate world (that some call reality), Malkmus is recording new (Jicks?) material in the studio.

I didn't know abt the Sammy billionaire thing (and I bought their album, not that I can remember anything about it)

sad, tho, that "what Sammy is most famous for" is not and probably never has been "say, didn't one of them go on to call himself Laptop and record 'End Credits'"

(quit ripping off Pavement to rip off Future Bible Heroes as reimagined for the Marcy Playground generation? eh whatever, I love that song)

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Jicks sounds like Malkmus started some other band. Clearance sounds exactly like Pavement.

Just getting home from a bar and the band played a “cut your hair” cover which was very low effort but if there is a band where low effort counts it’s this one. The looser the cover the closer to Pavement’s spirit it gets, I guess.

Is there any good biography or super long magazine article about Pavement? and specifically about their last days? This band still confounds me- I find all of S&E repellent, I like Crooked Rain, and a few songs here and there on other records... but "Grounded" is one of my favorite songs ever. And this performance is just stunning: their second to last show ever, first song of the set, as someone in the comments put it: "Malkmus's energy is so cool in this vid. It's like a mix of feeling it and pissed off frustration that culminates in jigging around with the guitar behind his head."

I want to know more about why Malkmus left Pavement... is it just personal animosity? Obviously wasn't sick of touring or recording. Also I would like to read more criticism and analysis because I've been trying to understand this band and why people love them so much for nearly 13 years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_i4C8axWBs