9% on Rotten Tomatoes now!
― Number None, Friday, 7 August 2015 06:24 (eight years ago) link
FF 'TRANKS' AT BOX OFFICE
― a silly gif of awkward larping (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 7 August 2015 06:35 (eight years ago) link
In actual MCU "news," the cinematographer for Dr. Strange says it's going to be "dark" and "psychedelic." I'm going to be more interested in the sound design, myself. (Hoping for Lynchian/Spletian)
― rack of lamb of god (WilliamC), Friday, 7 August 2015 15:09 (eight years ago) link
Finally a dark take on comic book heroes.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 7 August 2015 15:34 (eight years ago) link
Could be appropriate in this case. I hope they showcase actual demons and Mindless Ones and other weird Lovecraftian shit.
― Off Pudding (Old Lunch), Friday, 7 August 2015 15:42 (eight years ago) link
i want ditko strange goddammit, give me dali-esque backgrounds and slim, squinting men
― let's not get too excited w/ the ouches (forksclovetofu), Friday, 7 August 2015 15:49 (eight years ago) link
i want ditko strange goddammit
it's off to the "out of context" thread we go
― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Friday, 7 August 2015 15:50 (eight years ago) link
Would have been more interesting if he'd said bright and psychedelic instead of dark and psychedelic, but 100+ micrograms of Ditko is called for either way.
xp lol
― rack of lamb of god (WilliamC), Friday, 7 August 2015 15:52 (eight years ago) link
what can i say, i like em slim and squinting
― let's not get too excited w/ the ouches (forksclovetofu), Friday, 7 August 2015 15:53 (eight years ago) link
i think seitz knows this wasn't made by the marvel factory, but as he never mentions fox in the piece i think it could be clearer
― da croupier, Friday, 7 August 2015 16:04 (eight years ago) link
fuckin bananas that they don't get their powers until more than half-way into the movie
― da croupier, Friday, 7 August 2015 16:06 (eight years ago) link
AFAICT, the new FF movie essentially exists for the same reason that the original Corman FF does. Has there ever been a rights-retention spite production that was also a decent movie?
― Off Pudding (Old Lunch), Friday, 7 August 2015 16:11 (eight years ago) link
http://news.blog.gustavus.edu/files/2012/04/Origin-Story.jpg
― let's not get too excited w/ the ouches (forksclovetofu), Friday, 7 August 2015 16:12 (eight years ago) link
also fuckin bananas that ACTION SEQUENCES in the trailer aren't in the movie - supercurious to know why one would decide cut those out of a superhero movie
― da croupier, Friday, 7 August 2015 16:13 (eight years ago) link
http://www.vulture.com/2015/08/timeline-of-fantastic-fours-terrible-buzz.html?cx_navSource=latest-news-a
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 August 2015 18:27 (eight years ago) link
I think Fox's screenwriters and Marvel's publishing-side writers are all realizing the same thing, that in the post-Watchmen post-Bendis post-Millar landscape, the basic concept of the FF has too many dumb parts that require too much suspension of disbelief. A lot of the best FF stories from the last ten years have been sort of solo adventures with the rest of the family as bit players (given an infinite number of Reeds, some of them are going to turn out evil; Johnny spends a year dead in the Negative Zone for tax purposes). Franklin and Valeria are more interesting than the actual FF. There hasn't been a really great Ben Grimm story since "This Man This Monster" that I can recall, and he hasn't even shown up in Secret Wars (unless Doom is sitting on him). The character with the really interesting power set, Sue Richards, hasn't been developed that way she should because "lol girls, that won't sell" though hopefully that's changing.
#NERD
― rack of lamb of god (WilliamC), Friday, 7 August 2015 19:03 (eight years ago) link
Nahhh, the FF aren't my favorite but they're generally only bad when they're mishandled by writers/creators who don't understand their strengths. The comics have been fairly strong for the better part of a decade now. I do agree that the emphasis on Franklin and Valeria is one of the best developments of late.
As far as the movie is concerned, Ultimate FF was probably the wrong source material to tap into, as it never really seemed to find it's footing or a voice of its own and no one's arc ever panned out in a way that was satisfactory to me (besides the interesting take on Evil Reed, which was never gonna make it into the movie).
― Off Pudding (Old Lunch), Friday, 7 August 2015 19:18 (eight years ago) link
I think the best route to take with some of these books that have been around forever like FF and Spider-Man is to expand and relegate focus onto a strong supporting cast as much as possible.
― Off Pudding (Old Lunch), Friday, 7 August 2015 19:19 (eight years ago) link
I think the best route to take with some of these books is to put the origin story in the first 10 minutes and then get on with the superheroing, or at least put some superheroing into the movie well before you hit the 60 minute mark
― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Friday, 7 August 2015 19:53 (eight years ago) link
I've seen more than a few reviews that suggest the movie doesn't really get going until the last ten minutes or so...
― Off Pudding (Old Lunch), Friday, 7 August 2015 19:57 (eight years ago) link
lol that is an excellent way to plot a movie
u_u
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 7 August 2015 20:00 (eight years ago) link
I've been thinking they should have done it like Hickman's arc where one of them was supposed to die. Just an ungodly amount of happenings in fifty dimensions at once, where they all have to travel at the same time. Focus on the adventure, on the excitement. And loads of time-travel. They should get Stephen Moffat to write it.
― Frederik B, Friday, 7 August 2015 20:20 (eight years ago) link
But again the kids (at least to me) were often the most interesting part of that and I can't figure how put that on the big screen (though admittedly I haven't given it too much thought).
― tsrobodo, Friday, 7 August 2015 21:38 (eight years ago) link
Not of that particular arc, though, right? They took over later, when it became the FF Foundation. Though of course, what I really want is an FF adaptation, with Dragon Man and all the rest. I have no idea who anybody was, but it was so charming.
― Frederik B, Friday, 7 August 2015 21:49 (eight years ago) link
Aah right, I only caught the latter part of it and got it confused with Fraction's run.
― tsrobodo, Friday, 7 August 2015 22:00 (eight years ago) link
They should have saved the FF for Marvel Zombies.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 August 2015 22:16 (eight years ago) link
kinda bummed that teller comes off like an asshole, he seems like a very good actor
― let's not get too excited w/ the ouches (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 8 August 2015 02:01 (eight years ago) link
um so the "MAN THING" movie is streaming on hulu now and i watched about twenty minutes, it is amazingly bad
― Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 27 August 2015 16:20 (eight years ago) link
wow i seriously never even heard of that
― Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 27 August 2015 16:51 (eight years ago) link
it was a placeholder to keep the rights, came out before marvel became MARVEL (but they have the now iconic opening credit sequence)... it is hot garbage
― Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 27 August 2015 17:04 (eight years ago) link
never commercially released, here is a fan built trailer that is spot on with the general feel and the plothttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTUL1GWbrRw
― Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 27 August 2015 17:09 (eight years ago) link
it's sorta Vertigo presents True Detective s3
― Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 27 August 2015 17:10 (eight years ago) link
Between this and Howard the Duck why has the ghost of Steve Gerber not returned to wreak a terrible vengeance?
― I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Thursday, 27 August 2015 17:12 (eight years ago) link
aww, that's sort of adorable.
like i could imagine it being an actually lame-but-okay shitty TV series.
― Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 27 August 2015 17:59 (eight years ago) link
Has to be called Giant Sized Man Thing though.
― suffeeciant attreebution (aldo), Thursday, 27 August 2015 18:14 (eight years ago) link
tbh that's been on my band name list for like ever
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Friday, 28 August 2015 00:53 (eight years ago) link
that was the name of my nascent aborted band many years ago
― a silly gif of awkward larping (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 28 August 2015 05:30 (eight years ago) link
Size not Sized
The weird thing about that terrible Man Thing movie is that does feature quite a lot of stuff drawn from the Gerber comics, including this character:
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/faschist.htm
― sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Friday, 28 August 2015 08:16 (eight years ago) link
omg
― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Friday, 28 August 2015 15:56 (eight years ago) link
He was briefly immortal, until he was killed. He was immune to the effects of aging, but not the effects of burning.
I will also be immortal until i die btw
― I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Friday, 28 August 2015 16:02 (eight years ago) link
btwhttp://variety.com/2015/film/news/doctor-strange-mads-mikkelsen-1201549501/
― Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 29 August 2015 05:35 (eight years ago) link
i think you have to assume they want him for baron mordo and i approve
― Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 29 August 2015 05:36 (eight years ago) link
huh, go figure: they already have a mordo. so dormammu?http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Doctor-Strange-Wants-Mads-Mikkelsen-Get-Details-79587.html
― Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 29 August 2015 05:37 (eight years ago) link
Mikkelsen’s exact role remains under wraps, but sources say he will be another antagonist to Cumberbatch’s titular sorcerer.
sounds dormammish to me. i guess there's also mephisto speculation but that seems like a box of frogs MCUwise.
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Saturday, 29 August 2015 06:42 (eight years ago) link
If Mikkelsen was Mephisto, it'd be like a remake of Constantine, with Tilda Swinton playing the mentor to the eponymous sorcerer and a well-known Scandinavian character playing the devil!
― Tuomas, Monday, 31 August 2015 17:46 (eight years ago) link
"Scandinavian character actor"
― Tuomas, Monday, 31 August 2015 17:47 (eight years ago) link
Constantine was better than it had any right to be
― a silly gif of awkward larping (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 31 August 2015 17:48 (eight years ago) link
I agree, it's pretty much the best live-action DC comic movie made, alongside Batman Returns. If only they'd cast a proper English actor in the lead role and gotten rid of the boring sidekick, it would've been perfect.
― Tuomas, Monday, 31 August 2015 18:10 (eight years ago) link
I wonder if Cumberbatch is gonna be American in Dr. Strange? Has he player Americans before?
― Tuomas, Monday, 31 August 2015 18:11 (eight years ago) link
smaug is from grand rapids iirc
― bizarro gazzara, Monday, 31 August 2015 19:36 (eight years ago) link