Rolling Marvel Cinematic Universe thread (+ a poll: Classic or Dud?)

I think the best route to take with some of these books that have been around forever like FF and Spider-Man is to expand and relegate focus onto a strong supporting cast as much as possible.

I think the best route to take with some of these books is to put the origin story in the first 10 minutes and then get on with the superheroing, or at least put some superheroing into the movie well before you hit the 60 minute mark

I've seen more than a few reviews that suggest the movie doesn't really get going until the last ten minutes or so...

lol that is an excellent way to plot a movie

u_u

I've been thinking they should have done it like Hickman's arc where one of them was supposed to die. Just an ungodly amount of happenings in fifty dimensions at once, where they all have to travel at the same time. Focus on the adventure, on the excitement. And loads of time-travel. They should get Stephen Moffat to write it.

But again the kids (at least to me) were often the most interesting part of that and I can't figure how put that on the big screen (though admittedly I haven't given it too much thought).

Not of that particular arc, though, right? They took over later, when it became the FF Foundation. Though of course, what I really want is an FF adaptation, with Dragon Man and all the rest. I have no idea who anybody was, but it was so charming.

Aah right, I only caught the latter part of it and got it confused with Fraction's run.

They should have saved the FF for Marvel Zombies.

kinda bummed that teller comes off like an asshole, he seems like a very good actor

um so the "MAN THING" movie is streaming on hulu now and i watched about twenty minutes, it is amazingly bad

wow i seriously never even heard of that

it was a placeholder to keep the rights, came out before marvel became MARVEL (but they have the now iconic opening credit sequence)... it is hot garbage

never commercially released, here is a fan built trailer that is spot on with the general feel and the plot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTUL1GWbrRw

it's sorta Vertigo presents True Detective s3

Between this and Howard the Duck why has the ghost of Steve Gerber not returned to wreak a terrible vengeance?

aww, that's sort of adorable.

like i could imagine it being an actually lame-but-okay shitty TV series.

Has to be called Giant Sized Man Thing though.

tbh that's been on my band name list for like ever

that was the name of my nascent aborted band many years ago

Size not Sized

The weird thing about that terrible Man Thing movie is that does feature quite a lot of stuff drawn from the Gerber comics, including this character:

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/faschist.htm

omg

He was briefly immortal, until he was killed. He was immune to the effects of aging, but not the effects of burning.

I will also be immortal until i die btw

btw
http://variety.com/2015/film/news/doctor-strange-mads-mikkelsen-1201549501/

i think you have to assume they want him for baron mordo and i approve

huh, go figure: they already have a mordo. so dormammu?
http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Doctor-Strange-Wants-Mads-Mikkelsen-Get-Details-79587.html

Mikkelsen’s exact role remains under wraps, but sources say he will be another antagonist to Cumberbatch’s titular sorcerer.

sounds dormammish to me. i guess there's also mephisto speculation but that seems like a box of frogs MCUwise.

If Mikkelsen was Mephisto, it'd be like a remake of Constantine, with Tilda Swinton playing the mentor to the eponymous sorcerer and a well-known Scandinavian character playing the devil!

"Scandinavian character actor"

Constantine was better than it had any right to be

I agree, it's pretty much the best live-action DC comic movie made, alongside Batman Returns. If only they'd cast a proper English actor in the lead role and gotten rid of the boring sidekick, it would've been perfect.

I wonder if Cumberbatch is gonna be American in Dr. Strange? Has he player Americans before?

smaug is from grand rapids iirc

I'd like to think that they didn't discover Benedict's irredeemably-awful and previously-unattempted American accent until after he'd already been cast.

"Howdy, y'all, I'm Doctor Strange!"

Marvel Studios tells the publishing-side Creative Committee "you can keep your story notes to yourself, thanks."
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2015/09/02/marvel-creative-committee-disbanded/

I can't believe this hasn't been shared here yet: http://io9.com/i-have-some-serious-concerns-about-the-captain-america-1728289328?utm_expid=66866090-48.Ej9760cOTJCPS_Bq4mjoww.0&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F

i didn't realize the comic was that nuts. still a little alarmist - from what i understand age of ultron had little to do with that comic - and this tickled me:

As had been pointed out by many people, by the time Civil War comes out, there will be 11 heroes in the MCU: Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, Hulk, Black Widow, Hawkeye, the Falcon, Black Panther, War Machine, the Vision, the Winter Soldier and Spider-Man.

dude forgot ant-man, daredevil, and one of the 12 heroes he listed

apparently in the comics "age of ultron" heavily involved time travel. so it's not like there's no precedent for simplifying things rewardingly.

AoU movie had absolutely nothing to do with AoU comic. So getting pre-alarmist about Civil War based on the comic is kinda dumb.

it'll suck for its own reasons, not because the comic sucked.

Cap's position is going to have to be different, as the MCU hasn't really be bothering with secret identities.

Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D has more superheroes (and more concerns about secrecy), but I'm assuming this works in tiers like the old Star Wars continuity - films don't have to acknowledge whatever happens in TV (is anyone saying Daredevil will actually turn up?).

I'm pretty sure he will turn up in a Marvel movie at some point.

I think we already know that Civil War the movie will much closer to Civil War the comic than Age of Ultron was to the comic, since it's been revealed the movie is about a superhero civil war and Cap and Iron Man will be the main antagonists. I can't imagine they'll be fighting over the superhuman registration act, as Chap points out, it doesn't make much sense in the MCU. Presumably Civil War will continue the theme of "security at what cost?" that was present in both Winter Soldier and AoU... So Tony will probably still want to improve his drone army and use that to protect people, maybe as a new director of the new SHIELD (or a post-SHIELD organization like HAMMER)... Where as Cap will against that based on his experiences on HYDRA and SHIELD in Winter Soldier. That way they can keep the main ideological conflict from the comic (security vs. liberty), but the reason for the conflict will be organic to the movies.

i think the civil war movie is going to suck if they try to keep to the comic story.

while writhing in agony over the past few days, i tried to make a tally of every marvel character or collective (not like "star wars" or kick ass or anything tangential like that but core universe characters) whose name has thus far been included in a feature film since 1970, because that's how i do my pain management: making pointless mental lists. here's what I came up with:

punisher
spiderman
wolverine
x-men
avengers
thor
iron man
hulk
ant man
guardians of the galaxy
fantastic four
daredevil
blade
ghost rider
elektra
man-thing
silver surfer (cheating a bit here but his name was on the marquee)
ultron (ditto)
winter soldier (same)

with Gambit, Apocalypse, Deadpool, Doc Strange, Black Panther, Spider Woman (maybe?), Captain Marvel and The Inhumans on tap for the next four years as films.

They've also done Generation X (1996, who knew!), Agents of SHIELD and Agent Carter on the teevee (and Luke Cage, Iron Fist and Jessica Jones on the way on Netflix) and cartoons (or varying release breadth) for Loki, Doctor Strange, Spider Woman, Black Panther, Black Widow, The Inhumans, Sabretooth and The Eternals.

So what's obviously missing for them to make money on? Punisher reboot is happening in the Daredevil Netflix series so they'll likely add him over there; I imagine Shang-Chi will do the same. Namor is tied up in rights issues. I want a Damage Control series. Black Widow is overdue for a feature before Scar Jo ages out of the character. Who is even left? Ka-Zar and the Savage Land?

Power Pack.

i think we need to keep in mind that the io9 civil war article was written by rob bricken, who is afaict a total fuckin' idiot

The YA titles: Young Avengers, Runaways, Avengers Academy, Generation Hope.

Would obv. love a NextWave movie, will obv. also never see one.

There's some GotG-type cosmic heroes that will now only be seen in GotG sequels - Nova, Adam Warlock - the same way that most of Asgard will be only in Thor films (would quite like to see a low-level "Loki in NYC sitcom" but v. little chance).

Villain films in general - was there talk of a Sinister Six film?

Marvel Zombies, medieval S.H.I.E.L.D, X-Force, Gaiman's 1602, Squirrel Girl / Patsy Hellcat Walker, Planet Hulk.

Howard the Duck missing from your line-up - hang your feverish head!

Villain films in general - was there talk of a Sinister Six film?

Yeah, the end of Amazing S-M 2 was essentially a cliffhanger for one, got nixed when Fox's Spiderverse collapsed due to lack of interest.