Rolling Marvel Cinematic Universe thread (+ a poll: Classic or Dud?)

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kinda bummed that teller comes off like an asshole, he seems like a very good actor

let's not get too excited w/ the ouches (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 8 August 2015 02:01 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

um so the "MAN THING" movie is streaming on hulu now and i watched about twenty minutes, it is amazingly bad

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 27 August 2015 16:20 (eight years ago) link

wow i seriously never even heard of that

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 27 August 2015 16:51 (eight years ago) link

it was a placeholder to keep the rights, came out before marvel became MARVEL (but they have the now iconic opening credit sequence)... it is hot garbage

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 27 August 2015 17:04 (eight years ago) link

never commercially released, here is a fan built trailer that is spot on with the general feel and the plot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTUL1GWbrRw

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 27 August 2015 17:09 (eight years ago) link

it's sorta Vertigo presents True Detective s3

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 27 August 2015 17:10 (eight years ago) link

Between this and Howard the Duck why has the ghost of Steve Gerber not returned to wreak a terrible vengeance?

I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Thursday, 27 August 2015 17:12 (eight years ago) link

aww, that's sort of adorable.

like i could imagine it being an actually lame-but-okay shitty TV series.

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 27 August 2015 17:59 (eight years ago) link

Has to be called Giant Sized Man Thing though.

suffeeciant attreebution (aldo), Thursday, 27 August 2015 18:14 (eight years ago) link

tbh that's been on my band name list for like ever

resulting post (rogermexico.), Friday, 28 August 2015 00:53 (eight years ago) link

that was the name of my nascent aborted band many years ago

a silly gif of awkward larping (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 28 August 2015 05:30 (eight years ago) link

Size not Sized

The weird thing about that terrible Man Thing movie is that does feature quite a lot of stuff drawn from the Gerber comics, including this character:

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/faschist.htm

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Friday, 28 August 2015 08:16 (eight years ago) link

omg

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Friday, 28 August 2015 15:56 (eight years ago) link

He was briefly immortal, until he was killed. He was immune to the effects of aging, but not the effects of burning.

I will also be immortal until i die btw

I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Friday, 28 August 2015 16:02 (eight years ago) link

i think you have to assume they want him for baron mordo and i approve

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 29 August 2015 05:36 (eight years ago) link

huh, go figure: they already have a mordo. so dormammu?
http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Doctor-Strange-Wants-Mads-Mikkelsen-Get-Details-79587.html

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 29 August 2015 05:37 (eight years ago) link

Mikkelsen’s exact role remains under wraps, but sources say he will be another antagonist to Cumberbatch’s titular sorcerer.

sounds dormammish to me. i guess there's also mephisto speculation but that seems like a box of frogs MCUwise.

resulting post (rogermexico.), Saturday, 29 August 2015 06:42 (eight years ago) link

If Mikkelsen was Mephisto, it'd be like a remake of Constantine, with Tilda Swinton playing the mentor to the eponymous sorcerer and a well-known Scandinavian character playing the devil!

Tuomas, Monday, 31 August 2015 17:46 (eight years ago) link

"Scandinavian character actor"

Tuomas, Monday, 31 August 2015 17:47 (eight years ago) link

Constantine was better than it had any right to be

a silly gif of awkward larping (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 31 August 2015 17:48 (eight years ago) link

I agree, it's pretty much the best live-action DC comic movie made, alongside Batman Returns. If only they'd cast a proper English actor in the lead role and gotten rid of the boring sidekick, it would've been perfect.

Tuomas, Monday, 31 August 2015 18:10 (eight years ago) link

I wonder if Cumberbatch is gonna be American in Dr. Strange? Has he player Americans before?

Tuomas, Monday, 31 August 2015 18:11 (eight years ago) link

smaug is from grand rapids iirc

bizarro gazzara, Monday, 31 August 2015 19:36 (eight years ago) link

I'd like to think that they didn't discover Benedict's irredeemably-awful and previously-unattempted American accent until after he'd already been cast.

Herbie Mann's Push Push Pops (Old Lunch), Monday, 31 August 2015 19:41 (eight years ago) link

"Howdy, y'all, I'm Doctor Strange!"

Herbie Mann's Push Push Pops (Old Lunch), Monday, 31 August 2015 19:41 (eight years ago) link

Marvel Studios tells the publishing-side Creative Committee "you can keep your story notes to yourself, thanks."
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2015/09/02/marvel-creative-committee-disbanded/

Gett Off, Eileen (WilliamC), Wednesday, 2 September 2015 22:32 (eight years ago) link

i didn't realize the comic was that nuts. still a little alarmist - from what i understand age of ultron had little to do with that comic - and this tickled me:

As had been pointed out by many people, by the time Civil War comes out, there will be 11 heroes in the MCU: Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, Hulk, Black Widow, Hawkeye, the Falcon, Black Panther, War Machine, the Vision, the Winter Soldier and Spider-Man.

dude forgot ant-man, daredevil, and one of the 12 heroes he listed

da croupier, Thursday, 3 September 2015 02:50 (eight years ago) link

apparently in the comics "age of ultron" heavily involved time travel. so it's not like there's no precedent for simplifying things rewardingly.

da croupier, Thursday, 3 September 2015 02:52 (eight years ago) link

AoU movie had absolutely nothing to do with AoU comic. So getting pre-alarmist about Civil War based on the comic is kinda dumb.

Simply Sensational (Old Lunch), Thursday, 3 September 2015 02:56 (eight years ago) link

it'll suck for its own reasons, not because the comic sucked.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 3 September 2015 03:07 (eight years ago) link

Cap's position is going to have to be different, as the MCU hasn't really be bothering with secret identities.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 3 September 2015 08:15 (eight years ago) link

Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D has more superheroes (and more concerns about secrecy), but I'm assuming this works in tiers like the old Star Wars continuity - films don't have to acknowledge whatever happens in TV (is anyone saying Daredevil will actually turn up?).

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 3 September 2015 08:50 (eight years ago) link

I'm pretty sure he will turn up in a Marvel movie at some point.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 3 September 2015 09:02 (eight years ago) link

I think we already know that Civil War the movie will much closer to Civil War the comic than Age of Ultron was to the comic, since it's been revealed the movie is about a superhero civil war and Cap and Iron Man will be the main antagonists. I can't imagine they'll be fighting over the superhuman registration act, as Chap points out, it doesn't make much sense in the MCU. Presumably Civil War will continue the theme of "security at what cost?" that was present in both Winter Soldier and AoU... So Tony will probably still want to improve his drone army and use that to protect people, maybe as a new director of the new SHIELD (or a post-SHIELD organization like HAMMER)... Where as Cap will against that based on his experiences on HYDRA and SHIELD in Winter Soldier. That way they can keep the main ideological conflict from the comic (security vs. liberty), but the reason for the conflict will be organic to the movies.

Tuomas, Thursday, 3 September 2015 09:12 (eight years ago) link

i think the civil war movie is going to suck if they try to keep to the comic story.

while writhing in agony over the past few days, i tried to make a tally of every marvel character or collective (not like "star wars" or kick ass or anything tangential like that but core universe characters) whose name has thus far been included in a feature film since 1970, because that's how i do my pain management: making pointless mental lists. here's what I came up with:

punisher
spiderman
wolverine
x-men
avengers
thor
iron man
hulk
ant man
guardians of the galaxy
fantastic four
daredevil
blade
ghost rider
elektra
man-thing
silver surfer (cheating a bit here but his name was on the marquee)
ultron (ditto)
winter soldier (same)

with Gambit, Apocalypse, Deadpool, Doc Strange, Black Panther, Spider Woman (maybe?), Captain Marvel and The Inhumans on tap for the next four years as films.

They've also done Generation X (1996, who knew!), Agents of SHIELD and Agent Carter on the teevee (and Luke Cage, Iron Fist and Jessica Jones on the way on Netflix) and cartoons (or varying release breadth) for Loki, Doctor Strange, Spider Woman, Black Panther, Black Widow, The Inhumans, Sabretooth and The Eternals.

So what's obviously missing for them to make money on? Punisher reboot is happening in the Daredevil Netflix series so they'll likely add him over there; I imagine Shang-Chi will do the same. Namor is tied up in rights issues. I want a Damage Control series. Black Widow is overdue for a feature before Scar Jo ages out of the character. Who is even left? Ka-Zar and the Savage Land?

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 3 September 2015 10:00 (eight years ago) link

Power Pack.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 3 September 2015 10:01 (eight years ago) link

i think we need to keep in mind that the io9 civil war article was written by rob bricken, who is afaict a total fuckin' idiot

bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 3 September 2015 10:22 (eight years ago) link

The YA titles: Young Avengers, Runaways, Avengers Academy, Generation Hope.

Would obv. love a NextWave movie, will obv. also never see one.

There's some GotG-type cosmic heroes that will now only be seen in GotG sequels - Nova, Adam Warlock - the same way that most of Asgard will be only in Thor films (would quite like to see a low-level "Loki in NYC sitcom" but v. little chance).

Villain films in general - was there talk of a Sinister Six film?

Marvel Zombies, medieval S.H.I.E.L.D, X-Force, Gaiman's 1602, Squirrel Girl / Patsy Hellcat Walker, Planet Hulk.

Howard the Duck missing from your line-up - hang your feverish head!

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 3 September 2015 10:36 (eight years ago) link

Villain films in general - was there talk of a Sinister Six film?

Yeah, the end of Amazing S-M 2 was essentially a cliffhanger for one, got nixed when Fox's Spiderverse collapsed due to lack of interest.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 3 September 2015 10:39 (eight years ago) link

I think Marvel might want to make a movie based on the new Ms. Marvel? AFAIK the comic has been a surprise hit, especially among those who don't otherwise read too many superhero comics, because it's not mired in continuity and doesn't have some of the worst indulgencies of American mainstream comics (no tits & ass). Besides the upcoming Spider-Man movie, they haven't really tried the teen hero approach, and since they've been criticized for the majority of their heroes being straight white men, doing a movie where the protagonist is a teenage Pakistani girl would obviously be a good choice.

Tuomas, Thursday, 3 September 2015 10:59 (eight years ago) link

Also, I think Avengers Academy would make for a great, soapy TV series (college drama meets the MCU), but the powers of the protagonists and the villains might be too expensive to do on TV. (And obviously they couldn't use Hank Pym as the headmaster.)

Tuomas, Thursday, 3 September 2015 11:02 (eight years ago) link

I think Avengers Academy would make for a great, soapy TV series (college drama meets the MCU),

I just...this sounds like the worst idea for a tv show ever, worse than Manimal Rides Supertrain.

Gett Off, Eileen (WilliamC), Thursday, 3 September 2015 12:27 (eight years ago) link

Hey, that sky high movie wasn't too bad on a relatively meagre budget (n.b. I haven't seen it since I was 14)

tsrobodo, Thursday, 3 September 2015 12:39 (eight years ago) link

It worked well in the comic, why not in a TV series?

(xpost)

Tuomas, Thursday, 3 September 2015 12:40 (eight years ago) link

I just hate high school/college tv shows in general. (exceptions: V. Mars, Buffy)

Gett Off, Eileen (WilliamC), Thursday, 3 September 2015 13:16 (eight years ago) link

A lot of these characters would actually make great anchors for serialized tv shows, an obvious analog to comics, but the problem is the budgets are so huge that only a giant blockbuster can support the ambitions (as such) of the story. Daredevil was a wise choice for TV, because it's pretty low on tech and magic and shit, but many of the others would be prohibitively expensive to pull off well.

Damage Control would make a great TV series, especially to fill the gaps between movies. Could imagine, well, Joss Whedon having fun with it.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 3 September 2015 13:25 (eight years ago) link

Frankly, I might be cool with Marvel wrapping up phase 3, figuring out what worked and what didn't, and maybe whittling everything down to like one movie a year (although I think the current TV/Netflix setup, with something akin to a long-form anthology of revolving series, is a good one). The QC is sure to get spottier as they get more plates simultaneously spinning.

Simply Sensational (Old Lunch), Thursday, 3 September 2015 13:35 (eight years ago) link

I've heard talk about closing it down after that, as the actors get too old, and rebooting everything after five years or so. But would the money let them?

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 3 September 2015 13:47 (eight years ago) link


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