There are direct links to those The Sound Of playlists at the bottom of each genre page. Save you a few clicks...
Aha, thanks.
― Brad C., Thursday, 13 August 2015 12:22 (eight years ago) link
So digging into Fresh Finds right now ... I like the idea.
Tracer Hands' post about music recommendation is, er, spot on for me as well. One thing I wonder is if music recommendation engines could do a better job going forward of unpacking WHY a song is recommended to you in some way -- beyond "you listened to X, you should try Y" which is a pretty shitty corollary. Like TH, I tend to be much more excited about a recommendation when I have why it was recommended to me explained a little. For something like Fresh Finds, it would be interesting if you could essentially see the blogs/reviews/Soundcloud momentum that, even algorithmically were responsible for putting into the list. Is that possible within the Spotify mobile app? Not sure. But if Spotify ever let other companies license their stream to build apps that house it, my sense is that some enterprising technology company could find a way to demonstrate this in quasi-infographic form, with little blurbs, factoids and so forth. The current of just seeing a list that says "Trust us -- we have some scientists and dudes with impressive beards" isn't really as powerful.
― Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 13 August 2015 14:50 (eight years ago) link
To put this another way ...
Right now we're still sort of at the “Hey you like Kraftwerk, have you heard Devo?” side of things. Fresh Finds and Discover Weekly sound like they're operating more at the "You like the sparse little classical melodies and dislocation in Kraftwerk’s music -- there’s this other band that kind of does that that’s getting a ton of buzz on Pitchfork and Soundcloud you should check out” phase.
It would be cool to see the buzz factor brought to life somehow.
― Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 13 August 2015 14:56 (eight years ago) link
What would be great is a website where people could talk about loving music, maybe post about the reasons they love specific music or recommend things to you based on your own past verbal characterizations of your tastes and preferences. Not sure how you'd measure what music they like most... some kind of voting-based mechanism would be good but I suspect only obsessed weirdos would actually put in the time. Ideally it would have a really minimal, low-impact interface (maybe even just text on a white background?) for those of us using it on older devices. I'm not a technical guy though and it seems like that kinda thing might be beyond the technical capabilities of Spotify. Advertisers might not go for it either, I dunno.
― Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 13 August 2015 16:22 (eight years ago) link
would never work
― Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 13 August 2015 16:30 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, most people would tire over discussing music and instead talk about their love of everything else.
― MarkoP, Thursday, 13 August 2015 16:38 (eight years ago) link
you guys
― oh, i am a lonlely poster. i live in a box of posts. (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 13 August 2015 17:07 (eight years ago) link
Steve Hoffman forums
― oh, i am a lonlely poster. i live in a box of posts. (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 13 August 2015 17:08 (eight years ago) link
Glenn - point EN's computer at ILM. ;)
― schwantz, Thursday, 13 August 2015 17:37 (eight years ago) link
Actually, I'm sure you could get great recommendations/correlations from the ILM archives. Sell the datamining rights off to Spotify and ILX could be funded for decades.
― Siegbran, Thursday, 13 August 2015 17:56 (eight years ago) link
Then everyone will complain that Paris Hilton or Big N Rich are being recommended to them
― Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 13 August 2015 18:03 (eight years ago) link
New data reinforcing that old T Swift pain
― oh, i am a lonlely poster. i live in a box of posts. (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 13 August 2015 18:20 (eight years ago) link
hey guys my inside algorithmic sources indicate that this band 'radiohead' is going to be big big big - don't know about you but i'm getting in on the ground floor
― Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 13 August 2015 19:49 (eight years ago) link
Listening to ILX Listen - 2015 Spotify Genre Playlistsstill waiting on my check tbh
― Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 13 August 2015 21:12 (eight years ago) link
(some of those playlists have 90 subscribers now btw)
― Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 13 August 2015 21:14 (eight years ago) link
One thing I wonder is if music recommendation engines could do a better job going forward of unpacking WHY a song is recommended to you in some way -- beyond "you listened to X, you should try Y" which is a pretty shitty corollary.
pandora used to (maybe still does but i haven't used it in a long time) have a little note on each song saying why they decided to play it based on the parameters of your song/album/artist playlist; "we chose this song for you because it's a power ballad in a minor key" or something. it doesn't seem like too much work to add some more factual info on the artists, and maybe why they're trending, to pop up as well.
― musically, Thursday, 13 August 2015 21:24 (eight years ago) link
re: Glenn - point EN's computer at ILM. ;)
forksclovetofu is OTM, i was just about to mention this !
note, ILM data for 2015 music is ALREADY in the spotify data mining sets i.e the ILM Rolling spotify playlists that forksclovetofu collates. Those playlists will be compared to similar playlists that will influence the discover weekly playlists for many other spotify listeners. So if your already listening to the ILM spotify playlists regularly your benefiting from the existing collective intelligence of ilm and other likeminded / similar curated playlists.
― djmartian, Thursday, 13 August 2015 22:03 (eight years ago) link
going back to Fresh Finds,
I found this
The Firehosehttps://open.spotify.com/user/predict0/playlist/3mZgwuBZqoRWIQqQB7IsTbFresh Finds Pro Edition
only 24 followers of this hidden away playlist. Probably most of these are internal spotify employees, but anyone can follow.
over 400 tracks in the last 4 weeks - tracks added regularly - 32 tracks were added thursday morning.
so, this is like a spotify rolling recent version of the Hype Machine for new tracks for new / emerging artists
hype machinehttp://hypem.com/
there is also this playlist:
Blogmergencehttps://open.spotify.com/user/predict0/playlist/0L5QOqPKhNaYOx1IlUdjH6
this looks like a unfiltered data dump of recent tracks crawled from music blogs. 47 tracks were added on thursday morning.
this is the spotify R&D account:
predict0https://open.spotify.com/user/predict0useful to follow
as refereed by Brian Whitman, in the link i mentioned upthread
http://notes.variogr.am/post/125515460365/fresh-finds
they have created human filtered best finds for july / june / may
regarding what spotify need to do next, they need a proper blogging / content strategy outside of the spotify platform. i.e to start a new music discovery blog. They have content curators i.e playlist makers & data scientists but spotify are underutilizing their knowledge and enthusiasm.
― djmartian, Thursday, 13 August 2015 22:50 (eight years ago) link
http://www.nme.com/news/various-artists/87588
President Obama uploads his own personal playlists on Spotify
― piscesx, Friday, 14 August 2015 19:30 (eight years ago) link
thanks obama
― panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 14 August 2015 20:27 (eight years ago) link
lol reminds me of this - https://mobile.twitter.com/blippoblappo/status/460194112142979075
― balls, Friday, 14 August 2015 20:35 (eight years ago) link
surprised he's so into death grips, but hey
― Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Friday, 14 August 2015 22:32 (eight years ago) link
tbrr finding out that michelle and barack's getting it on mix is fairly close to my own is kinda awesome
― Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Friday, 14 August 2015 22:34 (eight years ago) link
maybe you can use that along with the knowledge of his murders to delay orgasm /morbs
― oh, i am a lonlely poster. i live in a box of posts. (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 14 August 2015 23:48 (eight years ago) link
i don't think i read that the way you meant it
― Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 15 August 2015 00:25 (eight years ago) link
i HOPE i didn't read that the way you meant it
― Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 15 August 2015 00:26 (eight years ago) link
this thread took a disturbing turn
― for sale: baby shoes, never worn your ass (katherine), Saturday, 15 August 2015 01:03 (eight years ago) link
why does spotify (ios) burn off so much mobile data when playing saved tracks? what's it downloading? 45 mb today and i've only played ~two hours' worth.
― Autumn Almanac, Monday, 17 August 2015 07:12 (eight years ago) link
two hours of all saved tracks? that seems very high. I would switch to offline mode in that case.
― oh, i am a lonlely poster. i live in a box of posts. (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 17 August 2015 07:37 (eight years ago) link
thing is i shouldn't have to keep doing that. hoping it's just a bug and not album covers or something.
― Autumn Almanac, Monday, 17 August 2015 09:44 (eight years ago) link
a distinctly dancey playlist this week. i approve!
― tayto fan (Michael B), Monday, 17 August 2015 14:20 (eight years ago) link
So I'm normally pretty blasé about internet privacy policy shenanigans but this does sound pretty extreme:
“With your permission, we may collect information stored on your mobile device, such as contacts, photos, or media files.
What does that mean, "with your permission"? Have I given permission by accepting this policy? What on earth do they want with my contacts or photos anyway?
― ledge, Friday, 21 August 2015 07:08 (eight years ago) link
on ios you need to give explicit permission. if you're on android i think they can mine everything. really though i think it's just spotify covering off all likelihoods before you do any of the things that might fire off a scrape of your address book etc.
― Autumn Almanac, Friday, 21 August 2015 08:05 (eight years ago) link
android M will make the permissions more granular.
but yes, why does this synthesizer app need my wifi details and my contacts?
― koogs, Friday, 21 August 2015 08:17 (eight years ago) link
https://news.spotify.com/us/2015/08/21/sorry-2/
Let me be crystal clear here: If you don’t want to share this kind of information, you don’t have to. We will ask for your express permission before accessing any of this data – and we will only use it for specific purposes that will allow you to customize your Spotify experience.
― Autumn Almanac, Friday, 21 August 2015 23:10 (eight years ago) link
https://twitter.com/SpotifyUSA/status/634125633501556736
― Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Friday, 21 August 2015 23:17 (eight years ago) link
Charles Manson is on this week's Discover playlist :/
― JoeStork, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 00:54 (eight years ago) link
However many weeks later, the Discover playlist may have led finally to a discovery, I think mostly due to the avalanche of Wilco I'd been playing a couple of weeks ago - Israel Nash, who I've never heard of before. Very Neil Young & Crazy Horse. Not sure if I'll dig a whole album of this or not, but I think this is the first new-to-me artist I've come across via Discover where I actually want to try and hear more.
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Thursday, 27 August 2015 14:37 (eight years ago) link
Happened to me with On An On this week...
― schwantz, Thursday, 27 August 2015 16:58 (eight years ago) link
Manson showed up on a bunch of people's lists this week. Not a problem we had anticipated, but steps will be taken...
― glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 27 August 2015 19:08 (eight years ago) link
hopefully not by him
― Spottie, Thursday, 27 August 2015 19:12 (eight years ago) link
lol
i have been enjoying the weekly discovery much to my surprise
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 27 August 2015 19:15 (eight years ago) link
This entry has been known to cause some problems at a few music services... not naming names
https://musicbrainz.org/artist/8530d70e-778c-4eba-b08d-831d16783c03
― transparent play for gifs (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 27 August 2015 20:18 (eight years ago) link
lol:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/artists/41366462-ff3a-45a8-91d9-c40c259b5637
― transparent play for gifs (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 27 August 2015 20:19 (eight years ago) link
http://everynoise.com/engenremap-oratory.html
― glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 27 August 2015 20:36 (eight years ago) link
what governs the positioning there, glenn? quality of recording?
― Fizzles, Sunday, 30 August 2015 06:55 (eight years ago) link
This week on Discover Weekly: Ten (count 'em) songs I already know, and songs by Dr. Dog and Slightly Stoopid (gag). I'm beginning to think Spotify doesn't think very highly of me.
― thom yorke state of mind (voodoo chili), Monday, 31 August 2015 13:01 (eight years ago) link
it's ok, Spotify A) gave me a kate bush song B) made it "deeper understanding"
― for sale: baby shoes, never worn your ass (katherine), Monday, 31 August 2015 13:21 (eight years ago) link
"you seem like you'd like kate bush, and of all the hundreds of kate bush songs, we feel this will best resonate with your personality"
― for sale: baby shoes, never worn your ass (katherine), Monday, 31 August 2015 13:22 (eight years ago) link
mine is great this week!
― welltris (crüt), Monday, 31 August 2015 13:26 (eight years ago) link