Drinking myths

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I did see an advert or programme or something in which the police said that eating before you drink will have no effect. Don't remember why though, something to do with where liquid goes compared to solids I think....

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Monday, 17 May 2004 07:11 (twenty years ago) link

One goes in the pee pee and the other in da poo poo.

― Trayce (trayce), Monday, 17 May 2004 09:30 (twenty years ago) link

Fruit-based beers are for girls

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 17 May 2004 09:47 (twenty years ago) link

Sloshy Joshy to thread (I wish).

― Sarah (starry), Monday, 17 May 2004 09:51 (twenty years ago) link

Mr C from the Shamen should have had a club night called "I before E". Did he do this?

― dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 17 May 2004 10:22 (twenty years ago) link

* Absinthe causes madness - FALSE

No scientific evidence at all for this common claim.

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Monday, 17 May 2004 10:27 (twenty years ago) link

Can anyone offer any scientific explanation at all for people's claims that certain drinks have certain emotional effects on them, unrelated to the alcohol content? So many people seem to claim things like "Oh, I can't drink whisky because it makes me aggressive" or "Gin makes me maudlin". I'm not saying they're making it up, or even that it's psychosomatic, but I have just never been able to understand why such things might happen.

― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 17 May 2004 10:35 (twenty years ago) link

We're agreed then?

Different drinks have different emotional effects - FALSE

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Monday, 17 May 2004 10:40 (twenty years ago) link

drink half a bottle of absinthe
in rotherhithe
get yourself lost in a labyrinth
ingesting platyelminthes

― The Streets (ken c), Monday, 17 May 2004 10:42 (twenty years ago) link

I heard an 'alcohol boffin' on the radio state quite baldly that its inhibition-lowering effects were entirely socially learned, which was interesting.

― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 17 May 2004 10:43 (twenty years ago) link

The body's uptake of alcohol is different for different drinks, depending on the strength and sugar content. So someones differing reactions to eg lager and gin could be explained in those terms.

― Ricardo (RickyT), Monday, 17 May 2004 10:44 (twenty years ago) link

That was a great little poem from The Streets, incidentally. Isn't there a name for that kind of 4-line, AABB rhyme poem?

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Monday, 17 May 2004 10:48 (twenty years ago) link

Original Pirate Material

― The Streets (ken c), Monday, 17 May 2004 10:53 (twenty years ago) link

The body's uptake of alcohol is different for different drinks, depending on the strength and sugar content. So someones differing reactions to eg lager and gin could be explained in those terms.

But could this translate into a different quality of drunkenness, rather than just variation in the speed of the hit?

― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 17 May 2004 10:53 (twenty years ago) link

Yes. Booze is a very blunt drug, affecting many different bits of the brain. The rate of uptake can affect the extent to which parts get hit first, and by how much.

― Ricardo (RickyT), Monday, 17 May 2004 10:58 (twenty years ago) link

the important thing to remember is that nothing you do when drunk is your fault. NOTHING.

― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 17 May 2004 11:00 (twenty years ago) link

that's such great news!

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 17 May 2004 11:01 (twenty years ago) link

It's like a magic irresponsibility pill!

― Ricardo (RickyT), Monday, 17 May 2004 11:02 (twenty years ago) link

The alcohol boffin is entirely OTM: as long as most of you alcoholics are getting drunk, I get drunk in a nice way (happier, more energetic, more open). Which is why I save actual drinking for when I want to head down the path to oblivion on rocket-skates.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 17 May 2004 11:03 (twenty years ago) link

alcohol comes in pills form now??

xpost

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 17 May 2004 11:05 (twenty years ago) link

pils

― the surface noise made by people (electricsound), Monday, 17 May 2004 11:07 (twenty years ago) link

I read somewhere that they (=boffins) gave a group untastable booze, and another group wwater which was said to be booze, and the water drinkers all professed to be more drunk than they could be, and the booze drinkers underestimated the effect on them - ie, booze has chemical effect at cellular level, and macro effect on body, and usually the two are co-terminous, but that ain't necessarily so.

― Dave B (daveb), Monday, 17 May 2004 11:09 (twenty years ago) link

But could this translate into a different quality of drunkenness, rather than just variation in the speed of the hit?

jagermeister and southern comfort make me really manic. i'm assuming it's because of the high sugar content.

― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 17 May 2004 14:14 (twenty years ago) link

There is a myth that Snakebite is way stronger than its constituent parts.

And thats why its barred in some pubs.

― Bidfurd, Monday, 17 May 2004 14:23 (twenty years ago) link

it's just an excuse to keep out goths, isn't it?

― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 17 May 2004 14:24 (twenty years ago) link

Gin before vermouth, means you're uncouth,
Vermouth before gin, you're guaranteed to win!

― Skottie, Monday, 17 May 2004 14:25 (twenty years ago) link

1) That old Psychology 101 formula, "[mind]set and setting."
2) Expectations and associations (as discussed above) becoming self-fulfilling prophecies.

― j.lu (j.lu), Monday, 17 May 2004 14:29 (twenty years ago) link

moonshine before beer
yer gonna get fucked up!

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 17 May 2004 14:29 (twenty years ago) link

j.lu OTM plus the fact that gin just makes you maudlin.

― Skottie, Monday, 17 May 2004 14:32 (twenty years ago) link

thinking it over, the people i know who claim that various hard liquors make them belligerent or otherwise more unruly than usual tend to be terrible drunks who shouldn't be at the bar in the first place.

― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 17 May 2004 14:32 (twenty years ago) link

You're talking about my ex-girlfriend!

― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 17 May 2004 14:33 (twenty years ago) link

*shrug* Different types of alcohol contain different flavorings and congeners; it is possible that gin contains something (besides alcohol) that triggers depression in the susceptible.

― j.lu (j.lu), Monday, 17 May 2004 14:34 (twenty years ago) link

j.lu, I fear you've been drinking gin, you've gone all maudlin. I wasn't serious!

― Skottie, Monday, 17 May 2004 14:35 (twenty years ago) link

But if there is, you'd think someone would have identified this psychoactive ingredient by now.

― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 17 May 2004 14:36 (twenty years ago) link

I get randy on the gin.

― teeny (teeny), Monday, 17 May 2004 14:36 (twenty years ago) link

amazing!

― teeny (teeny), Monday, 17 May 2004 14:36 (twenty years ago) link

There is a myth that Snakebite is way stronger than its constituent parts.
And thats why its barred in some pubs.

snakebite is, of course, banned because legally draft beer, cider and perry can only be served in pints, half pints and third of a pints, and, with the addition of the blackcurrant, you have less than half a pint of one or the other.

lager top is also illegal, but that much should be apparent...

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Monday, 17 May 2004 14:38 (twenty years ago) link

it cracks me up: "i'm really sorry about that, but they only had stella and you know how i get." it's like blaming the last drink for your hangover. drink enough of anything and chances are you'll start behaving a bit funny.

― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 17 May 2004 14:40 (twenty years ago) link

As should lager and lime, cider and black, and guiness and black

― Dave B (daveb), Monday, 17 May 2004 14:43 (twenty years ago) link

whereas a cider armadillo is perfectly legal, because one is served a full pint of cider that one then takes a couple of sips out of.

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Monday, 17 May 2004 14:45 (twenty years ago) link

Eggzacerlee.

All this talk of pints and beer added to a hot day (wearing shorts innit) makes me want booze now. Any impromptu FAPs organised offline?

― Dave B (daveb), Monday, 17 May 2004 14:48 (twenty years ago) link

PROVEN BY SCIENCE: you can get whiskey dick whilst drinking boozes that aren't whiskey.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 17 May 2004 14:48 (twenty years ago) link

Because alcohol doesn't really induce aggression etc. It's been proven that we are conditioned into behaving a certain way when drinking alcohol.

― jesus nathalie (nathalie), Monday, 17 May 2004 14:48 (twenty years ago) link

What about pubs that have those glasses that are bigger than a pint, with the pint line marked. Eh? Eh?

― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 17 May 2004 14:49 (twenty years ago) link

j.lu, I fear you've been drinking gin, you've gone all maudlin. I wasn't serious!

Maudlin? I thought I was being flip?! And for what it's worth, I don't like gin.

But the more that I think about it...Some people have problems with beer because they are allergic to hops. I suppose it's possible that some people, when they drink something that contains something they're allergic to, are putting an emotional attribute on their physiological reaction. And then of course if something you drank triggered an allergic reaction, the following hangover will probably be all the more worse (hint: if your hangover appears to involve clogged sinuses, try taking an antihistamine as part of your recovery).

― j.lu (j.lu), Monday, 17 May 2004 14:49 (twenty years ago) link

My girlfriend came over to my house and she was drunk. Drunk on love? No! Drunk on GIN!

― The Kids in the Hall (Jordan), Monday, 17 May 2004 14:50 (twenty years ago) link

Pubs would therefore be serving more than one pint = bad economics = capitalism keeps it under a pint = ban all goths.

― Dave B (daveb), Monday, 17 May 2004 14:51 (twenty years ago) link

N. that is for HEAD and nothing else. also, you don't get head glasses very often anymore do you?

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Monday, 17 May 2004 14:52 (twenty years ago) link

Nathalie, so does a punch in the face only hurt because you're socially conditioned that it should hurt?

― Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 17 May 2004 14:53 (twenty years ago) link

Barry takes a very hard line on socio-psychological research.

― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 17 May 2004 14:54 (twenty years ago) link

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