― Dallr, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 01:47 (nineteen years ago) link
An alternate view is that "hard rock" is seeing its evolutionary niche taken over by "hardcore rap" which represents a Hegelian synthesis of the dialectic strains of Dionysian hair metal and Appollonian grunge.
― o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 01:48 (nineteen years ago) link
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― artdamages (artdamages), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 03:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dallpark, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 03:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― shookout (shookout), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 03:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― nabiscothingy, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 03:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 03:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― Don, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 03:32 (nineteen years ago) link
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― AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 04:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 04:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 04:13 (nineteen years ago) link
David Coverdale hired Steve Vai and Aynsley Dunbar = APOLLONIAN
this is simple, people.
And yes, echoing Shookout, the godliness of the Screaming Trees can't be affirmed enough.
― Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 04:20 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.angelfire.com/film/princepurplerain/apollonia.jpg
― wetmink (wetmink), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 04:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 04:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― wetmink (wetmink), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 04:26 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.operagloves.com/Modernstars/PrincesBeauties/apollonia-2a.jpg
― wetmink (wetmink), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 04:28 (nineteen years ago) link
"Come Out And Play" by The Offspring
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 07:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 07:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 07:48 (nineteen years ago) link
*(insert name of any 3rd rate late '80's-early '90's lammo brit "indie" band here)
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 07:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 12:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dallpark, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 13:16 (nineteen years ago) link
Grunge = introverted, sarcastic, angry, chaste, restrained, self-conscious, heroin, hardcore
Hair Metal = extroverted, shallow, playful, libidinous, transgressive, self-forgetful, cocaine, glam
While grunge (like any loud rock music) still partakes of a Dionysian element, I would say that it represents somewhat of a retreat to a more Apollonian restraint. This is especially notable in its sartorial conservativeness and relative asexuality.
― o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 13:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dab, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 14:13 (nineteen years ago) link
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― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 21:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 22:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 22:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 22:14 (nineteen years ago) link
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― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 25 August 2004 02:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 02:11 (nineteen years ago) link
The question "how important was grunge" means nothing until you define grunge, and even that means nothing here because ILM has already decided that Nirvana was a worthless band, and this is all just clever jabs at passing fads. Grunge was what indie is, a hip genre label that helps you sell stuff. A question like "How Important Of A Single was Smells Like Teen Spirit?" might get us a little closer to the answer I think we're after, but still.
― Shaun (shaun), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 02:47 (nineteen years ago) link
more like a small bunch of very vocal detractors have decided they're a worthless band.
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 02:58 (nineteen years ago) link
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― AaronHz (AaronHz), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 03:04 (nineteen years ago) link
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― Shaun (shaun), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 03:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 04:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 05:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 05:50 (nineteen years ago) link
I never said Nirvana was perfect, but FFS these are virtually rock n roll prerequisites!
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 06:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― Igor, Wednesday, 25 August 2004 08:02 (nineteen years ago) link
I can think of lots that aren't, and many that are only obliquely. I mean do you really think that a song like "Suck You Dry" is about sex? If it is, it's a particularly negative view of sex. Writing songs about how much you hate sex is very grunge. Writing songs that celebrate sex is very hair metal.
― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 12:28 (nineteen years ago) link