Spotify - anyone heard of it?

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(some of those playlists have 90 subscribers now btw)

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 13 August 2015 21:14 (eight years ago) link

One thing I wonder is if music recommendation engines could do a better job going forward of unpacking WHY a song is recommended to you in some way -- beyond "you listened to X, you should try Y" which is a pretty shitty corollary.

pandora used to (maybe still does but i haven't used it in a long time) have a little note on each song saying why they decided to play it based on the parameters of your song/album/artist playlist; "we chose this song for you because it's a power ballad in a minor key" or something. it doesn't seem like too much work to add some more factual info on the artists, and maybe why they're trending, to pop up as well.

musically, Thursday, 13 August 2015 21:24 (eight years ago) link

re: Glenn - point EN's computer at ILM. ;)

forksclovetofu is OTM, i was just about to mention this !

note, ILM data for 2015 music is ALREADY in the spotify data mining sets i.e the ILM Rolling spotify playlists that forksclovetofu collates. Those playlists will be compared to similar playlists that will influence the discover weekly playlists for many other spotify listeners. So if your already listening to the ILM spotify playlists regularly your benefiting from the existing collective intelligence of ilm and other likeminded / similar curated playlists.

djmartian, Thursday, 13 August 2015 22:03 (eight years ago) link

going back to Fresh Finds,

I found this

The Firehose
https://open.spotify.com/user/predict0/playlist/3mZgwuBZqoRWIQqQB7IsTb
Fresh Finds Pro Edition

only 24 followers of this hidden away playlist. Probably most of these are internal spotify employees, but anyone can follow.

over 400 tracks in the last 4 weeks - tracks added regularly - 32 tracks were added thursday morning.

so, this is like a spotify rolling recent version of the Hype Machine for new tracks for new / emerging artists

hype machine
http://hypem.com/

there is also this playlist:

Blogmergence
https://open.spotify.com/user/predict0/playlist/0L5QOqPKhNaYOx1IlUdjH6

this looks like a unfiltered data dump of recent tracks crawled from music blogs. 47 tracks were added on thursday morning.

this is the spotify R&D account:

predict0
https://open.spotify.com/user/predict0
useful to follow

as refereed by Brian Whitman, in the link i mentioned upthread

http://notes.variogr.am/post/125515460365/fresh-finds

they have created human filtered best finds for july / june / may

regarding what spotify need to do next, they need a proper blogging / content strategy outside of the spotify platform. i.e to start a new music discovery blog. They have content curators i.e playlist makers & data scientists but spotify are underutilizing their knowledge and enthusiasm.

djmartian, Thursday, 13 August 2015 22:50 (eight years ago) link

http://www.nme.com/news/various-artists/87588

President Obama uploads his own personal playlists on Spotify

piscesx, Friday, 14 August 2015 19:30 (eight years ago) link

thanks obama

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 14 August 2015 20:27 (eight years ago) link

lol reminds me of this - https://mobile.twitter.com/blippoblappo/status/460194112142979075

balls, Friday, 14 August 2015 20:35 (eight years ago) link

surprised he's so into death grips, but hey

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Friday, 14 August 2015 22:32 (eight years ago) link

tbrr finding out that michelle and barack's getting it on mix is fairly close to my own is kinda awesome

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Friday, 14 August 2015 22:34 (eight years ago) link

maybe you can use that along with the knowledge of his murders to delay orgasm /morbs

oh, i am a lonlely poster. i live in a box of posts. (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 14 August 2015 23:48 (eight years ago) link

i don't think i read that the way you meant it

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 15 August 2015 00:25 (eight years ago) link

i HOPE i didn't read that the way you meant it

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 15 August 2015 00:26 (eight years ago) link

this thread took a disturbing turn

for sale: baby shoes, never worn your ass (katherine), Saturday, 15 August 2015 01:03 (eight years ago) link

why does spotify (ios) burn off so much mobile data when playing saved tracks? what's it downloading? 45 mb today and i've only played ~two hours' worth.

Autumn Almanac, Monday, 17 August 2015 07:12 (eight years ago) link

two hours of all saved tracks? that seems very high. I would switch to offline mode in that case.

oh, i am a lonlely poster. i live in a box of posts. (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 17 August 2015 07:37 (eight years ago) link

thing is i shouldn't have to keep doing that. hoping it's just a bug and not album covers or something.

Autumn Almanac, Monday, 17 August 2015 09:44 (eight years ago) link

a distinctly dancey playlist this week. i approve!

tayto fan (Michael B), Monday, 17 August 2015 14:20 (eight years ago) link

So I'm normally pretty blasé about internet privacy policy shenanigans but this does sound pretty extreme:

“With your permission, we may collect information stored on your mobile device, such as contacts, photos, or media files.

What does that mean, "with your permission"? Have I given permission by accepting this policy? What on earth do they want with my contacts or photos anyway?

ledge, Friday, 21 August 2015 07:08 (eight years ago) link

on ios you need to give explicit permission. if you're on android i think they can mine everything. really though i think it's just spotify covering off all likelihoods before you do any of the things that might fire off a scrape of your address book etc.

Autumn Almanac, Friday, 21 August 2015 08:05 (eight years ago) link

android M will make the permissions more granular.

but yes, why does this synthesizer app need my wifi details and my contacts?

koogs, Friday, 21 August 2015 08:17 (eight years ago) link

https://news.spotify.com/us/2015/08/21/sorry-2/

Let me be crystal clear here: If you don’t want to share this kind of information, you don’t have to. We will ask for your express permission before accessing any of this data – and we will only use it for specific purposes that will allow you to customize your Spotify experience.

Autumn Almanac, Friday, 21 August 2015 23:10 (eight years ago) link

Charles Manson is on this week's Discover playlist :/

JoeStork, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 00:54 (eight years ago) link

However many weeks later, the Discover playlist may have led finally to a discovery, I think mostly due to the avalanche of Wilco I'd been playing a couple of weeks ago - Israel Nash, who I've never heard of before. Very Neil Young & Crazy Horse. Not sure if I'll dig a whole album of this or not, but I think this is the first new-to-me artist I've come across via Discover where I actually want to try and hear more.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Thursday, 27 August 2015 14:37 (eight years ago) link

Happened to me with On An On this week...

schwantz, Thursday, 27 August 2015 16:58 (eight years ago) link

Manson showed up on a bunch of people's lists this week. Not a problem we had anticipated, but steps will be taken...

glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 27 August 2015 19:08 (eight years ago) link

hopefully not by him

Spottie, Thursday, 27 August 2015 19:12 (eight years ago) link

lol

i have been enjoying the weekly discovery much to my surprise

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 27 August 2015 19:15 (eight years ago) link

This entry has been known to cause some problems at a few music services... not naming names

https://musicbrainz.org/artist/8530d70e-778c-4eba-b08d-831d16783c03

transparent play for gifs (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 27 August 2015 20:18 (eight years ago) link

http://everynoise.com/engenremap-oratory.html

glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 27 August 2015 20:36 (eight years ago) link

what governs the positioning there, glenn? quality of recording?

Fizzles, Sunday, 30 August 2015 06:55 (eight years ago) link

This week on Discover Weekly: Ten (count 'em) songs I already know, and songs by Dr. Dog and Slightly Stoopid (gag). I'm beginning to think Spotify doesn't think very highly of me.

thom yorke state of mind (voodoo chili), Monday, 31 August 2015 13:01 (eight years ago) link

it's ok, Spotify A) gave me a kate bush song B) made it "deeper understanding"

for sale: baby shoes, never worn your ass (katherine), Monday, 31 August 2015 13:21 (eight years ago) link

"you seem like you'd like kate bush, and of all the hundreds of kate bush songs, we feel this will best resonate with your personality"

for sale: baby shoes, never worn your ass (katherine), Monday, 31 August 2015 13:22 (eight years ago) link

mine is great this week!

welltris (crüt), Monday, 31 August 2015 13:26 (eight years ago) link

Fizzles: the positioning is atmospheric-vs-bouncy and organic-vs-mechanistic, same as on the big overall genre map, but within a genre like oratory you're basically seeing large magnifications of small differences, so it isn't necessarily telling you much.

glenn mcdonald, Monday, 31 August 2015 14:06 (eight years ago) link

Spotify seems desperate to make me listen to Lloyd Cole, every single Discover Weekly playlist I've had so far includes at least one of his songs

soref, Monday, 31 August 2015 14:45 (eight years ago) link

(this week's playlist, upon actually listening, is decent, I just thought the particular choice of song was hilarious)

for sale: baby shoes, never worn your ass (katherine), Monday, 31 August 2015 15:04 (eight years ago) link

Can't fault Spotify for giving you songs you already know unless you listen to them regularly on Spotify. I got a high number of tracks this week that I already knew, but I took that as a sign that it's getting closer to ID'ing my tastes.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Monday, 31 August 2015 16:31 (eight years ago) link

thanks glenn.

still yet to try out my discover playlist. seem to be feeling that same aversion that i have when people I don't entitely trust recommend me things. multplied beyond what i would feel if I encountered the same things without any context.

Fizzles, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 14:07 (eight years ago) link

Well, you can look at the thing without listening to it. Is that less scary?

glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 14:50 (eight years ago) link

I live in South Africa, and am considering going through the rigmarole to get Spotify up-and-running on my connection here.

Is there something like a ILM playlist on there?

I would really like to see a list of what's currently on that that. Is someone willing to do me a favour and screengrab a list of what's on the ILM playlist at the moment?

I would like to see if it something that would be worth my effort, as that would be my primary reason for getting Spotify.

Nico, Friday, 4 September 2015 16:53 (eight years ago) link

Somewhere in this thread may be the Spotify mix you are looking for: Rolling Favorite Tracks + Albums 2015

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 4 September 2015 17:03 (eight years ago) link

i like the discover playlists and regularly check them out - any time a track choice offends me i can always tell WHY the robot thought i'd like it. but it has put me in an ironic position of feeling like big brother's not doing a good enough job at watching me sometimes. "an exile on guyville track? I KNOW i've played exile on here before...weren't you paying attention, algorithm?"

da croupier, Friday, 4 September 2015 17:09 (eight years ago) link

Also essential for ILX listening: Listening to ILX Listen - 2015 Spotify Genre Playlists

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Friday, 4 September 2015 17:41 (eight years ago) link

Oh wow I didn't even know that thread existed!

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 4 September 2015 18:55 (eight years ago) link

croup i think it knows you've played just maybe not in a while. that could be useful, i'm sure there's plenty of albums/acts i listened to once cuz they were on aquarius records mailing list or whatever and enjoyed but never got around to listening to again and would enjoy 'rediscovering', the problem is spotify is understandably unable to distinguish between those albums vs albums you've only listened to once in the past decade because you wore them out long ago vs albums you listened to once cuz it was on a list and once was enough thx.

balls, Friday, 4 September 2015 19:29 (eight years ago) link

Wish Spotify could import my last.fm history to help with recommendations. I'd pay for that.

the most painstaking, humorless people in the world (lukas), Saturday, 5 September 2015 00:06 (eight years ago) link

I also maintain a playlist of the "Your 11 favourite songs of the moment, fuck" thread: http://open.spotify.com/user/miketd/playlist/01h5cX8jtxgfJoaOBgYN4F

mike t-diva, Saturday, 5 September 2015 16:54 (eight years ago) link


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