ILX Parenting 6: "Put Some Goddamn Pants On Before You Go Outside!" is a thing I say now

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Shout out to grandparents for being awesome and majorly sucking at the same time.

five six and (man alive), Monday, 24 August 2015 14:32 (eight years ago) link

Tilda pinches too but I think it's just part of her figuring out her hands. It hurts though.

Immediate Follower (NA), Monday, 24 August 2015 14:36 (eight years ago) link

I actually told my MIL this weekend "You know she throws those tantrums because she knows she'll get what she wants." Pretty sure it just bounced off her.

five six and (man alive), Monday, 24 August 2015 14:40 (eight years ago) link

My pleas for "gentle hands" at bedtime haven't really worked, because now F just tenderly strokes my eyelids for a moment before prodding my eyeballs hard and digging his nails into my cheeks.

stet, Monday, 24 August 2015 14:53 (eight years ago) link

LOL for real at "tenderly strokes my eyelids"

You can totally tell when the tender stroking is about to turn into painful jabbing.

There was one amazing ten minute period when Ivy stroked my hair as part of her quiet time routine and I was so excited because that's way better than pinching and also felt really nice. But it didn't last and never happened again.

carl agatha, Monday, 24 August 2015 14:57 (eight years ago) link

I was carrying both boys to the nursery to change them and J was happily chattering away and then he turned his head and BIT THE FUCK OUT OF MY NIPPLE THROUGH MY SHIRT

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Monday, 24 August 2015 15:02 (eight years ago) link

lol

how's life, Monday, 24 August 2015 15:05 (eight years ago) link

Usually the signal that my kid is about to fall asleep is that she'll wrap both arms around my head, but last week at bedtime she tried to add "grinding her foot into my crotch" as part of the routine.

how's life, Monday, 24 August 2015 15:07 (eight years ago) link

D's current signal that he's about to fall asleep is to scream like someone it currently digging a knife into the back of his knee

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Monday, 24 August 2015 15:11 (eight years ago) link

J's signal OTOH is "haha fuck sleep, I'm in it for the long haul; brew some coffee, chumps"

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Monday, 24 August 2015 15:11 (eight years ago) link

Ivy bit Jeff on the shoulder yesterday when they were horsing around, but I think she was just overstimulated. We had a talk ("talk") about how important it is not to bite our friends or people we love, and she gave Jeff a hug and kiss, then ran over to give me a hug and kiss, so I think maybe on some level she heard us? (That's the kind of hubris that almost guarantees I'll get a note about her biting a kid at daycare today...)

carl agatha, Monday, 24 August 2015 15:16 (eight years ago) link

We only bite our enemies.

Jeff, Monday, 24 August 2015 15:21 (eight years ago) link

we ESPECIALLY bite our enemies.

kate78, Monday, 24 August 2015 15:24 (eight years ago) link

That's the way they put it at her old daycare - "We don't bite our friends" - so I went with it for consistency's sake.

carl agatha, Monday, 24 August 2015 15:26 (eight years ago) link

http://youtu.be/U6UWNA-WQgI

I have no idea if that will embed, but it's a Yo Gabba Gabba classic.

Madchen, Monday, 24 August 2015 15:49 (eight years ago) link

Ahhhhhh I see!

carl agatha, Monday, 24 August 2015 15:52 (eight years ago) link

YGG is the best

Οὖτις, Monday, 24 August 2015 16:35 (eight years ago) link

he's often looking at his hands and opening/closing them

C did this a lot a couple weeks ago, we referred to it as "stoner hands", like "oh man have you ever REALLY looked at your hands before?"

Also he was pinching the backs of my arm quite a bit when feeding but it only lasted for a couple weeks and it's been a while since he's done it.

joygoat, Monday, 24 August 2015 20:06 (eight years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BKkHWhaCMAAPET9.jpg

wmlynch, Monday, 24 August 2015 20:54 (eight years ago) link

lol yeah that's exactly it! He went through a phase a few months ago where he'd practice moving one hand around and the other hand opening and closing, but hadn't realised they could both do both.

kinder, Monday, 24 August 2015 21:46 (eight years ago) link

carl/jeff i dont have anything to bring to the table except OMG THE PINCHING WOULD DRIVE ME INSAAAAANE

wtf ivy, cmon girl

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 02:46 (eight years ago) link

my niece is an armpit pincher, i've just discovered. but she also giggles all day and has cutest little face in the entire history of the universe, so it's ok.

just1n3, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 04:43 (eight years ago) link

As I told my mom after she declared Ivy's pinching wasn't too bad: talk to me around minute 45.

carl agatha, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 13:50 (eight years ago) link

stevie there are two sisters on this bus about age 2 and 4 who could seriously be older versions of Marin.

carl agatha, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 13:53 (eight years ago) link

Anybody else have routine diaper changes turn into full-on epic wrestling matches? Like he's not angry or sad, just squirmy and trying to get away. It takes like three times as long and routinely ends with half-applied diapers.

joygoat, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 18:19 (eight years ago) link

Yes, although Ivy is often angry and sad about it, too. Distraction works for the wiggles - giving him a toy or something particularly enticing (a clean diaper, a pack of wipes, matches, I don't know) - and to avoid angry/sad especially in the morning, I've taken to changing her diaper while she's watching Daniel Tiger or whatever.

carl agatha, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 18:29 (eight years ago) link

Mine always uses it as an opportunity to flip onto his front then turn round and grin at us. He looks so proud I can't be too cross (until the 5th, 6th, 7th time...)

kinder, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 20:53 (eight years ago) link

diaper changes are like a baby's version of Jazzercize AFAICT

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 20:55 (eight years ago) link

Lol yes. The diaper comes off and it's like "wait, whoa, LEGS, I have LEGS"

five six and (man alive), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 22:52 (eight years ago) link

Most nappy changes, once they'd mastered coasting round the furniture, were done standing up. Couldn't face the endless wrestling

vickyp, Thursday, 27 August 2015 09:00 (eight years ago) link

Are any of your kids facetiming relatives/friends yet? Our kids are huge fans of it but it is getting a little out of control. Just the other night I busted Hank facetiming his grandfather with the camera pointed in full close up of his balls that were, thankfully, covered in Avenger underwear. He looked so pleased with himself. Like a broken record i said once again 'Henry, please try to remember, FACEtime is for FACES.'

UYD: Oxys, Percs, Vics, Addys, Rit-Dogs and Xannys (sunny successor), Thursday, 27 August 2015 14:28 (eight years ago) link

We've been doing Facetime/Skype since Evie was little since our families live elsewhere. The biggest problem is Evie always gets super hyper and crazy and starts yelling and wants to grab the iPad and run around with it instead of talking. She often wants to Facetime with her friends from school too, we've only let her do that a few times.

Immediate Follower (NA), Thursday, 27 August 2015 14:50 (eight years ago) link

Kindergarten orientation yesterday was making me emo. I think Evie will be fine once she gets into it but she was being shy at the orientation and sitting by herself reading instead of talking with other kids. It's a big change from a small day care to a big school with 65+ kids in kindergarten alone (split into three classrooms).

Immediate Follower (NA), Thursday, 27 August 2015 14:52 (eight years ago) link

My local public school I think has 25+ kids in K classrooms and 30+ in first grade. It's been the subject of a lot of handwringing for us, private school not really being an option so it's sort of this or the suburbs. And I hate to be all special snowflake about my child, but she is pretty sensitive wrt noise/large groups and does tend to shut down a little. So I totally feel you on that NA.

five six and (man alive), Thursday, 27 August 2015 15:11 (eight years ago) link

This is supposed to be a really good school, so I'm not worried about that so much. I'm not even really worried about her because I know she's generally very social. I'm just eager for the transition period to be over.

Immediate Follower (NA), Thursday, 27 August 2015 15:22 (eight years ago) link

I'm sure she's just absorbing things for now, which is great, because that means when her normal outgoing personality kicks in, she'll already understand how it all works. I'm excited for her! Go Evs!!! <3

Ivy and I Skype with my parents every Sunday and have more or less since she was born. If you say, "Where's Pop Pop?" she looks at the computer. Or if I'm sitting at the desk, she'll hop up in my lap and say "Pop Pop" or "Mom Mom" or "Coco" (that's their dog). She doesn't have much patience for sitting for long periods, but the desk is set up so that my parents can see into her room, too, so I'll let her play on the floor and get out of the way so they can just basically watch her do stuff for about a half hour. Sometimes they feign interest in my well being but mostly they just watch the kid.

I really wish that we could do a similar video call with her other grandparents since it really does help her stay familiar with her far away family but they can't get internet access where they live.

"Facetime is for FACES" is cracking me up. Oh Henry...

carl agatha, Thursday, 27 August 2015 15:41 (eight years ago) link

I've been facetiming with my parents pretty regularly, and my wife started to somewhat with her mom since all our families live 2,000 miles away. Cecil seems to really dig it, and I swear he was more familiar with my parents when we went to visit in July, especially compared to my wife's father who he'd never seen before, even on a phone screen.

joygoat, Thursday, 27 August 2015 16:01 (eight years ago) link

Also ball time is the greatest thing

joygoat, Thursday, 27 August 2015 16:01 (eight years ago) link

I'm pretty sure the only time Jesse and I tried FaceTime he put the phone in his pants so I'd like to say Henry will outgrow it but ...

carl agatha, Thursday, 27 August 2015 16:48 (eight years ago) link

Hahaha I don't doubt it

UYD: Oxys, Percs, Vics, Addys, Rit-Dogs and Xannys (sunny successor), Thursday, 27 August 2015 21:38 (eight years ago) link

I can just picture Hank pitching silicon valley VCs: "It's Facetime for balls"

five six and (man alive), Thursday, 27 August 2015 21:39 (eight years ago) link

I call it Ballstime

Οὖτις, Thursday, 27 August 2015 21:54 (eight years ago) link

I'm imagining that going like GOB's "Fuck City" pitch from Arrested development.

carl agatha, Thursday, 27 August 2015 22:27 (eight years ago) link

A friend's kid choked on a hot dog friday night and had to spend the weekend in the hospital with tubes in his throat and getting MRIs. His mom found him unconscious and not breathing and had to resuscitate him. They are very fortunate that she was able to revive him. God knows how close he was to death or brain damage.

If feeding hot dogs to little children, do not feed it to them in sandwich form. Instead chop it into little pieces. We use one of these to get hot dogs down into child-friendly pieces: http://www.amazon.com/Dachshund-Shaped-Hot-Dog-Cutter/dp/B0088OJB5U

My little girl is the same age and I've been known to leave her with a snack while I go take the trash out or flip the laundry or whatever. This has been a huge wake-up call.

how's life, Monday, 31 August 2015 00:26 (eight years ago) link

I have extreme choking paranoia so we avoid hot dogs completely.

Jeff, Monday, 31 August 2015 01:49 (eight years ago) link

I always quarter lengthwise and then cut into sections. She doesn't like the bun anyway.

keep clams and jive on (man alive), Monday, 31 August 2015 01:51 (eight years ago) link

Worst thing about choking is that it can be totally silent so you could even be in the same room with your back turned. Sorry about your friend, hl.

kinder, Monday, 31 August 2015 08:24 (eight years ago) link

marcos how did it go?

― carl agatha, Sunday, August 23, 2015 10:33 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ferber is going pretty well tbh!!! we made a lot of improvements. F is still only 5 months and nurses every 3 hours or so each night but the best thing we've accomplished is F can now fall asleep on his own so long as he has a full stomach. so that is cool. before, my wife would nurse him and one of us would have to dance him around for a long time, upwards of 45 minutes sometimes, before he could finally get to sleep and stay asleep. now he'll nurse and we place him in the crib awake and he might cry for a few seconds but then he's out. so huge huge huge improvement.

eventually we will try to space out the night feedings but it is so cool that he just goes to sleep on his own after them.

marcos, Monday, 31 August 2015 15:38 (eight years ago) link

and we've been pretty lucky with our older kid, he's almost 3 now and has been a great sleeper since about 15 months or so (when we had to do some pretty intense and torturous sleep training stuff, which is why we're trying to get this over with earlier with F)

marcos, Monday, 31 August 2015 15:39 (eight years ago) link

Ferber method is underrated imo

Οὖτις, Monday, 31 August 2015 15:42 (eight years ago) link


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