Rolling Marvel Cinematic Universe thread (+ a poll: Classic or Dud?)

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i feel like "what do they possibly have left to exploit" stopped being a valid question after they made 700m off the talking raccoon and tree

da croupier, Thursday, 3 September 2015 15:03 (eight years ago) link

Did anyone else who saw Ant Man just feel the air go right out of the theatre/movie when Falcon appeared? Like, he gets this dramatic intro, and no one gives a crap. Like we're supposed to be excited about Falcon, who may as well be called Captain Uncompelling.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 3 September 2015 15:04 (eight years ago) link

nope

da croupier, Thursday, 3 September 2015 15:05 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, no.

Simply Sensational (Old Lunch), Thursday, 3 September 2015 15:05 (eight years ago) link

I honestly think Damage Control would make a great one-off film, moreso than a miniseries - it's a cute enough quick-pitch concept, so it really just needs a team that knows how to do a charming high-concept comedy (rather than the super-action people) to work over the script and put some recognizable funny faces in it. That's one where the Marvel brand isn't even strictly necessary - you could have done that with totally generic superheroes seen from a distance or on shots of the TV news, since the gimmick is about the everyday Joes sifting through the rubble. Or it could be about the effort to get the company off the ground, as one guy with a big idea starts with just a shovel and a little red wagon or something.

And yeah, Runaways - that was also basically made to be a filmable concept from minute one, as is Vaughan's stock in trade. Really clear, trailer-ready concept, fantastic characters. Maybe it does depend on feeling like the universe is big enough that there could be these two-bit never-heard-of-em supervillains poking around, or maybe it really should not be set in the Marvel Universe at all.

I think they'd avoid Young Avengers and Power Pack though - anything clearly "... but it's kids!" feels like box office poison IMO.

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 3 September 2015 15:10 (eight years ago) link

They've apparently been kicking around an idea for a Runaways movie for a while. I think I initially read that it was supposed to happen just after phase one.

Simply Sensational (Old Lunch), Thursday, 3 September 2015 15:12 (eight years ago) link

they can always do power pack as an animated thing like big hero 6

da croupier, Thursday, 3 September 2015 15:14 (eight years ago) link

did they get the rights back to blade? If dr strange does well (And hey it might who knows) he - and ghost rider! - would be logical eventual reboots into Marvel Dark

da croupier, Thursday, 3 September 2015 15:19 (eight years ago) link

the falcon scene in ant-man was a dud but not because it featured the falcon, more that it was obviously a scene that had been shoehorned in after edgar wright left to tie the movie closer to the avengers. it was an embarassingly inept macguffin-hunt that added nothing at all to the story - basically a 'put the movie on hold for five minutes while we get an avenger in here' sequence.

bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 3 September 2015 15:21 (eight years ago) link

i'm all for another ghost rider movie as long as nic cage reprises his career-defining role as johnny blaze. and ghost rider pisses fire again, that was rad

bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 3 September 2015 15:21 (eight years ago) link

animated power pack MIGHT work. just always feels pointless to do a "they're superheroes...but they're little kids!" thing. anybody over the age of 10 won't touch it, and anybody under the age of 10 is already perfectly happy with spider-man. there are plenty of demographics these movies should be trying to reach better, but i think they have little kids prettttty well sewn up.

rebooted blade is not a terrible idea, as reboots go. at least it's been a few years. not sure this universe really needs to have vampires in it but yeah, depends how dr. strange goes with mysticism stuff. apparently there was a blade TV series?! missed that completely.

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 3 September 2015 15:22 (eight years ago) link

Yes, rights have reverted on Blade, there are talks about doing something with him in the MCU. They should just go balls-out and do a Tomb of Dracula movie.

Simply Sensational (Old Lunch), Thursday, 3 September 2015 15:34 (eight years ago) link

I'd rather they do psychedelic Ditko Strange than Marvel Knights Strange but I expect they'll do the latter.

a silly gif of awkward larping (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 3 September 2015 18:18 (eight years ago) link

The DP has already used the words "dark" and "psychedelic" so I guess it's going to be both? I haven't read the Marvel Knights Strange. Still say the sound design is going to be key here.

Gett Off, Eileen (WilliamC), Thursday, 3 September 2015 18:32 (eight years ago) link

also a lot of big flat expanses of color would be good.

a silly gif of awkward larping (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 3 September 2015 19:07 (eight years ago) link

i would've sworn on a bible i included howard in that list; blame the drugs.
cloak and dagger is a good idea, runaways is a good idea. if suicide squad does well (doubtful) i could see a sinister six/dark avengers/MODOK and AIM/Bring on the Bad Guys film greenlit.

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 3 September 2015 23:42 (eight years ago) link

suicide squad looks half cool, half dour & leaden & heavy blahhh

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 4 September 2015 01:42 (eight years ago) link

i have written a treatment for a featherlight romcom starring modok does anyone have kevin feige's email

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 4 September 2015 08:24 (eight years ago) link

(why because he look intersting)

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 4 September 2015 08:29 (eight years ago) link

What girl does modok meet cuet

Οὖτις, Friday, 4 September 2015 14:04 (eight years ago) link

modam, or mental organism designed for amorous maneuvers

superia and the femizons will be her supporting cast of friends

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 4 September 2015 15:15 (eight years ago) link

sold

Οὖτις, Friday, 4 September 2015 15:24 (eight years ago) link

I love that she is a carbon copy of MODOK but with lipstick.

Fancy Fantasies (Old Lunch), Friday, 4 September 2015 15:28 (eight years ago) link

http://www.vulture.com/2015/09/hulk-ruffalo-civil-war.html

I believed that [Hulk] would be in the film, but at the end, it was evident that they needed to reveal that the Hulk did something very significant, and that Marvel wanted to use this in a more upfront [manner]. My character was inserted into the script, but it was later removed. Who knows, maybe Hulk will never return. However, [Marvel] want to keep the revelation of what happened a secret, because it is something truly significant.

^ this sounds like confirmation of World War Hulk to me

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Friday, 4 September 2015 15:28 (eight years ago) link

I love that she is a carbon copy of MODOK but with lipstick.

don't fuck with the formula!

Οὖτις, Friday, 4 September 2015 15:37 (eight years ago) link

tbf she has boob armour too to further distinguish her from modok

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 4 September 2015 15:42 (eight years ago) link

I would've given her little sticky-up pigtails.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Friday, 4 September 2015 15:46 (eight years ago) link

plz tell me at some point they make a MOTOT

Οὖτις, Friday, 4 September 2015 15:47 (eight years ago) link

mobile organism threatening only toddlers?

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Friday, 4 September 2015 15:51 (eight years ago) link

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/40/1658582-elvis_modok_575.jpg " class="noborder">

Elvis MODOK or gtfo.

suffeeciant attreebution (aldo), Friday, 4 September 2015 15:53 (eight years ago) link

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f95/klu824/BabyMODOK.jpg

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 4 September 2015 15:56 (eight years ago) link

awesome

Οὖτις, Friday, 4 September 2015 16:06 (eight years ago) link

I'm glad they didn't shorten that to BABY DOK.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 4 September 2015 16:14 (eight years ago) link

I didn't read all of Civil War but I feel like that IO9 column is taking an intentional thematic position from the story, namely that both opposing sides were seriously flawed from an ethical standpoint, and is treating it like it was an unintentional mistake that the writers had no idea they were inserting.

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Friday, 4 September 2015 18:04 (eight years ago) link

Always thought I'd read civil war but turns out it was actually this parody of it.
http://mightygodking.com/i-dont-need-your-civil-war/
But yeah that article is kinda silly. It takes the registration thing at face value and compares it to real life policy, as if anything about it makes sense in the context of a superhero comic.

The writers didn't know what to do with the vigilantism conceit underpinning everything that they'd ever written about before so they just kinda ignored it.

tsrobodo, Friday, 4 September 2015 18:55 (eight years ago) link

chris evans at least changing his pr game to "i love being cap"

http://collider.com/chris-evans-eager-to-extend-marvel-contract-past-avengers-4/

“Listen, if Marvel wants me they got me. I’ve never had such a relationship where you have such—I mean look at my resume, I’m used to being on set being like, ‘Ah is this movie gonna be terrible?’ Marvel just can’t stop making great movies, they do it in their sleep. It’s wonderful directors and producers and actors and scripts, and it’s like a playground as an actor.”

da croupier, Tuesday, 8 September 2015 16:24 (eight years ago) link

I wonder if he'll try "I'll be Cap if you'll let me direct."

Gett Off, Eileen (WilliamC), Tuesday, 8 September 2015 17:23 (eight years ago) link

What with the Russos, Shane Black, Peyton Reed, James Gunn, Kenneth Branagh and all sorts of folks whose resumes might not point in that direction, sure, why not?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 September 2015 17:47 (eight years ago) link

well their resumes point in that direction in that they're actually directors but other than that

Number None, Tuesday, 8 September 2015 17:55 (eight years ago) link

Finally saw Avengers 2 the other night. Way worse than the first. Really hope they get rid of Iron Man soon cos it was really a stretch watching how stupid Tony Stark was during that whole movie. And yes the way they wrote Black Widow was pretty lame. New characters are stupid too, Scarlet Witch can do pretty much whatever the scene calls for by flicking her wrists dramatically. James Spader was really the only likable character in the film.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 9 September 2015 17:06 (eight years ago) link

Scarlet Witch can do pretty much whatever the scene calls for by flicking her wrists dramatically

it's clear you've never read the comics

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Wednesday, 9 September 2015 17:10 (eight years ago) link

su ot kcab teg dna scimoc eht daer

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 9 September 2015 17:11 (eight years ago) link

zatanna humor never gets old imo

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 9 September 2015 17:12 (eight years ago) link

Also, Iron Man being a super-smart dude doing super-stupid things that bite him and others in the ass is kinda just Iron Man being Iron Man.

Fancy Fantasies (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 9 September 2015 17:17 (eight years ago) link

I never read Scarlet Witch comics that's true. If I have to read the comics in order to get the movie then the movie has failed imo.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 9 September 2015 17:22 (eight years ago) link

If I ever get a time machine I will make sure to go back and tell my younger self to cancel the multiple X-Men subscriptions and broaden my comic portfolio so I can understand what is going on in 20 years.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 9 September 2015 17:23 (eight years ago) link

well no, it's just that "Scarlet Witch can do pretty much whatever the scene calls for by flicking her wrists dramatically" is kind of the definition of how Scarlet Witch has been written since her inception, which makes it sound like the movie was pretty faithful to how everyone has ever interpreted the character

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Wednesday, 9 September 2015 17:25 (eight years ago) link

the house of m storyline in the 2000's is basically about how scarlet witch gets rid of an entire race by flicking her wrists dramatically
and, to some extent, minimizes sony's rights ownership to xmen i suppose

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 9 September 2015 17:29 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, this is a character who had children with a robot and when people said "wait a second, how did that work?" it was revealed that she magicked them into existence*; the flaw here is inherent in the character.

* nb this didn't end well for anyone, whether they be fictional or the real people who read it

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Wednesday, 9 September 2015 18:22 (eight years ago) link


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