NRO's The Corner: Obamacare ‘like a house on fire’ with more flammable parts yet to come

link?

Never mind -- found it. Ugh. Sorry I asked.

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Jay Nordlinger ‏@jaynordlinger 17h17 hours ago
@KevinNR P.S. WFB used to tease me by paraphrasing a Bob Hope line from a movie: "He'll have a lemonade -- in a DIRTY glass!"

uh

Kevin D. Williamson ‏@KevinNR 17h17 hours ago
True fact: You can go into the seediest bars in Georgetown and order a "Nordlinger" and they'll bring you a Dr Pepper float. @jaynordlinger

from Road to Utopia

xxp

the tweet that starts that exchange is great

xp lmao yeah that's it. "seediest bar in georgetown" is like "shortest globetrotter" right?

I thought a "Nordlinger" was a punch in the dik

David French:

As we’ve been discussing on the Corner today, Ben Carson is under fire for expressing that he would not support a Muslim candidate for president. My response to the question would be simple: “Which Muslim?” I’ve never in my life voted for a faith. I’ve voted for candidates. And while faith certainly helps form candidates, faith identification can’t even begin to tell their entire political story. I’m Evangelical, but I’d walk over broken glass to vote for my conservative atheist friend and NR colleague Charlie Cooke rather than, say, a progressive Presbyterian – even though he or she shares aspects of my religious tradition. And while I’d never support Abdel Fattah el-Sisi for president for a host of reasons (beginning with the fact that he’s an Egyptian strongman), I prefer his ruthless approach to fighting jihad over our own Christian president’s pattern of half-measures and appeasement. But there’s another virtue in asking “which Muslim?” Searching for the right answer to the question would quickly reveal the lack of prominent Muslim voices who are also articulate defenders of western civilization and American constitutional values. The Left and mainstream media (I’m being redundant) have consistently elevated Muslim critics of American life and values while giving little attention to those Muslim patriots who revere our traditions and have often fled to the United States specifically to reject the dysfunctional cultures that dominate the Middle East and much of the rest of the Muslim world. For the Left, the authentic Muslim is typically the Muslim who hates the West. And those people I wouldn’t want anywhere near the Oval Office – as occupants or even as guests.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/424406/i-scream-you-scream-jay-nordlinger

Ben Carson is under fire for expressing that he would not support a Muslim candidate for president.

stay with me here, but this is not true

hot the heels of his nobel peace prize expose...

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41fbu6kJhwL.jpg

oh man

Setting himself up for the 2019 revised edition with chapters on Malia and Sasha.

man people are really losing it over this cooke piece on pedophiles huh

do tell!

I am not a practicing Christian, but, as far as I can recall from my instruction as a child, the author is taking precisely the approach that Christians are supposed to take when they find themselves tempted toward sin. I suppose that it is possible that I am seriously mis-remembering the core tenets of the faith, but don’t followers of Jesus believe that everybody is born with impulses that lead them toward unacceptable behavior? And don’t they also believe that they are called to act chastely — that is, to avoid indulging those impulses and instead to seek a way to be freed from them? It was a while ago, I accept, but I cannot recollect any caveats being attached to these rules. Are we now to suppose that it does not apply when the propensity in question is sufficiently egregious? Is there a new-fangled carve-out for instincts that turn our stomach?

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/424373/salons-much-maligned-pedophilia-piece-charles-c-w-cooke

oh i didn't even read it, nor the salon piece. i just saw trails of the argument on twitter. he and other NRO/in the tent conservatives were fighting with the truly weird alt-right types about whether even discussing the issue is some kind of surrender to depravity.

conservatives are really convinced that liberals are trying to normalize pedophilia, it's the craziest thing. there's something about the right that just refuses to understand consent.

Stephen • 20 hours ago

Thank God Jonah chimed in with an article to show that NR is not on the same page as Cooke. I think many conservatives warned, and we see it in the press and now even NRO, that with the cave to judicial supremacy on gay marriage the pedophiles and polygamists would start asking for understanding and rights next.

Mr. Cooke's opinion might fit in better at Salon, Vox, or the Daily Kos.

We can focus on finding a cure for pedophilia (so far the illness doesn't respond to treatment), but must recognize that being born a monster doesn't excuse being a monster. Instead of asking for sympathy, the pedophile should ask for treatment and separation from society. Remember, the homosexual community asked for understanding, asked us to change the definition of marriage, and all of it began with the American Psychological Association dropping homosexuality from being considered an illness (with no scientific consideration). Mark my words - enough movement to the left and pedophiles will be asking for the same rights and acceptance. They won't want to be called "ill" anymore. There's a reason that NAMBLA is a lobbying organization; they believe they will change the future.

Note the timing of this article. A Special Forces leader was removed from the army and also lost an appeal for re-entry. Why? Because he "shoved" an Afghan man under his leadership that had a little boy chained to a bed as a sex slave. The army's position is that we aren't there to judge others. So much for De Oppreso Liber.

i haven't had the stomach to look into the afghan pederasty scandal.

the use of 'cuckservative' is really something

it's like a third-grader who just learned the word 'fart'

osephistan • 20 hours ago
I'm just going to listen to the new Iron Maiden album & pretend that the 80s never ended & Reagan is still President & JPII is still Pope.
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Law Student josephistan • 19 hours ago
If only...
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SonofaGip josephistan • 20 hours ago
Good idea! This country has been going downhill since the Cold War ended.
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Dragonslav josephistan • 20 hours ago
I'm not a big Maiden fan, but I heard it was pretty good.
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JP Dragonslav • 20 hours ago
How about Banana Rama?
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Dragonslav JP • 17 hours ago
LOL. My wife generally cringes at my music. I wear it proudly. The Butthole Surfers show and the Megadeth shows that I saw way back when were two of my favorites. In my old age, I fondly remember seeing Rush and Porcupine Tree (with a nice little metal band called 3 as opener). And I could probably partially sing along to at least one Banana Rama song.
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Turning Leaves JP • 20 hours ago
I heard a rumour that it's been a cruel summer.

Our progressives friends accept “Born This Way” for exactly one category of human inclinations: those related to venereal enthusiasms. When it comes to sexual taste, our progressive friends are all Sir Francis Galton, writing disquisitions on hereditary fabulousness. But they resist well-founded scientific accounts of the biological basis of human intelligence and its heritability. Conservatives, who in spite of their recent ghastly experiments with populism have not entirely lost their instinct for hierarchy, are in the main perfectly comfortable with a “Born This Way” account of intelligence. But delve too deeply into questions about which other aspects of human interior life may also be biological, hereditary, and effectively immutable, and you will start to encounter some resistance.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner

nro: putting lipstick on pigs since 1955

i only made it through half of that before my lizard brain took over and hurled my cellphone into the next room

To judge from the popular media, the best use of recent findings in neurological science is to grossly oversimplify it, then use the resulting paste to cement your prejudices.

Hey, I'm not well-versed enough in political media to know, but this seems like the right thread to ask: of conservatively-slanted news sources, are there any that one could recommend as the least-unreliable or least-worst? I know this is a tall order.

American Conservative's Daniel Larison is a generally reasonable source for critiques of GOP batshittery.

the national interest & walter russell mead are ok

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/princeton-historian-national-review-civil-rights

Historian vs NRO's Williamson on twitter re Civil Rights Act of 1964

i see interesting + reasonable things occasionally in WSJ op-ed pages, some of WaPost stuff (volokh conspiracy runs some good pieces), once in a while in Commentary. obv you have to sift the wheat from the chaff but that's true for left-leaning media too.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/princeton-historian-national-review-civil-rights

Historian vs NRO's Williamson on twitter re Civil Rights Act of 1964

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Bernstein gave hm a good fisking three years ago and Williamson still does this shit.

http://plainblogaboutpolitics.blogspot.com/2012/05/fables-continued.html

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2015/10/no-poor-people-dont-inherit-lot-money

debunking another Williamson item

uh

n October 2012, just as presidential campaigning had reached fever pitch, I was raking leaves in the front yard of my northern-Virginia home when I noticed a pack of volunteers clad in “Romney 2012” T-shirts canvassing the neighborhood door to door, engaging residents and drumming up support for their candidate. When my house was next in line, I set aside the rake and started down the driveway toward the group. They walked right past me without so much as a friendly smile or neighborly “Hello.” How curious.

Returning to my yardwork, I watched as they dutifully stopped at my neighbor’s house and deposited campaign materials at the front door. And then the band made its merry way down the road. As a black guy, I couldn’t really fault the group’s practical decision. After all, why spend time and campaign resources on me when nine in ten blacks routinely vote for the Democratic presidential nominee and when the nation’s first black president was seeking reelection?

But as an American, I was furious. The message this group conveyed was that my vote — the right to cast it was one of many rights of citizenship I spent a career in the military protecting — was not worth pursuing. The snub meant they were unable or unwilling to make a case for their candidate because I had a different appearance. So much for party outreach. Perhaps I’m being too sensitive about this. To see bigotry in a run-of-the-mill slight is to buy into the prevalent but lazy narrative that the Republican party is racially intolerant — a parlor game of zero interest to me

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/426146/republican-party-black-voters

It's actually not a hysterical article, but I can't get past the first three paragraphs.

I like that he dismisses the notion that the Republican party is racially intolerant as a parlor game and then spends the next two paragraphs fleshing out ways in which the Republican party is racially intolerant.

I'm not saying it was racist aliens, but it was racist aliens.

the cognitive dissonance that guy must process on a daily basis is incredible

This is OTM though:

Everything the Republican party needs to know about the African-American electorate is bound in this one truism: Once civil-rights protections are guaranteed, African Americans will feel free to vote in accordance with their varied economic and social interests.

meanwhile, american conservatism has a new favorite sheriff:

https://twitter.com/SheriffClarke/status/659197285172166657

Once civil-rights protections are guaranteed

bit of a ways to go on this one, let me check and see which party is obstructing progress on this point...

tbf the essay is a gentle way of saying that without actually saying it and sending them into an impregnable huff, but whole thing could prob also be reprinted under "quixotic"

Clarke frequently appears at public events on horseback wearing a cowboy hat. Among his controversial remarks were his assertions that Milwaukee County Executive Chris Abele had “penis envy” and must have been on heroin when crafting the county budget.[3] In 2015, at an NRA event, he, according to Miranda Blue of Right Wing Watch, proposed redesigning the Great Seal of the United States to include a semi-automatic rifle. [4]

It's a thin ledge to walk, and he walks it pretty well, but I imagine his eye started twitching pretty hard when he had to write "As it turns out, many of these laws have made voting more difficult for many blacks."

Roy Edroso points out this juxtaposition: https://twitter.com/edroso/status/659369112674660352

jonah: "one could argue" that Ben Carson is "even more authentically African-American than Barack Obama."

'arguments were made'

white guys arguing over how black a black guy is, what could go wrong

oh ffs

why do I even look at this thread

^^ hardly a surprise coming from the same folks who would argue that Clarence Thomas is more authentically African-American than Barack Obama and who think this means something to someone other than white conservatives trying to score debating points.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal-a/2015_11/how_can_national_review_fairly058492.php

National Review writers dislike of Trump hurting their role in creating feel-good inside a bubble "debates"