Rolling Marvel Cinematic Universe thread (+ a poll: Classic or Dud?)

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btw, if anybody wants a good visual luke cage history, try here:
http://majorspoilers.com/2013/03/31/hero-history-luke-cage/

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 10 September 2015 17:31 (eight years ago) link

damn luke you gotta eat the booty first

balls, Thursday, 10 September 2015 17:40 (eight years ago) link

At the time of its inception, Marvel Max was conceptually somewhat indistinguishable from a notebook full of racy drawings hidden under a thirteen-year-old's mattress. I mean, they gave Howard the Duck giant, naked tits at one point, for the love of christ. Thankfully, they matured a bit once the novelty of adult themes wore off.

Fancy Fantasies (Old Lunch), Thursday, 10 September 2015 17:44 (eight years ago) link

yes, in fact that is what I'm referring to

also holy lol

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Thursday, 10 September 2015 18:03 (eight years ago) link

"sweet christmas" is a shop o'course but a clever one

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 10 September 2015 18:10 (eight years ago) link

I would have bought the book had "SWEET CHRISTMAS!" been in the original

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Thursday, 10 September 2015 18:34 (eight years ago) link

as noted above, it's worth your time

resulting post (rogermexico.), Thursday, 10 September 2015 18:51 (eight years ago) link

ok what's the original

Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 September 2015 18:56 (eight years ago) link

xxpost Same as the image above, but with an unfortunate Bushmaster reference in place of the "Sweet Christmas!"

Fancy Fantasies (Old Lunch), Thursday, 10 September 2015 19:03 (eight years ago) link

I hate comics

Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 September 2015 19:09 (eight years ago) link

I get that Bendis is very good at certain things as a comic book writer but I'm increasingly of the opinion that they are things I couldn't possibly care less about (at least that's how I feel about him after his X-Men stint)

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Thursday, 10 September 2015 19:19 (eight years ago) link

I loved his Daredevil and Alias, I liked his Avengers, I remain unconvinced about everything he's done since the inception of Marvel Now. His X-stuff and Guardians of the Galaxy, as far as I've read, has been Autopilot City.

Fancy Fantasies (Old Lunch), Thursday, 10 September 2015 19:26 (eight years ago) link

I don't know if Bendis has lost his fastball or he's been writing characters I don't care about (X titles) but switching over to 2 Iron Man books doesn't excite me. xpost

Still, Miles Morales is the best character Marvel introduced since about the mid 60s.

Gett Off, Eileen (WilliamC), Thursday, 10 September 2015 19:27 (eight years ago) link

She's nowhere on the same level as Miles but I remain very, very fond of Hisako Ichiki (Armor)

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Thursday, 10 September 2015 19:34 (eight years ago) link

I like Miles Morales fine as a character, but I feel like his best days are ahead. Bendis has yet to really knock my socks off with a Miles story. It doesn't help that he first appeared when the Ultimate universe was starting to get awfully rickety.

Fancy Fantasies (Old Lunch), Thursday, 10 September 2015 19:40 (eight years ago) link

xp -- what are the best Armor stories/titles? I only know her from the Joss Whedon book.
(sorry for derailing the MCU thread even further)

Gett Off, Eileen (WilliamC), Thursday, 10 September 2015 20:22 (eight years ago) link

afaict bendis is just spread too thin. can't even keep track of how many books he's writing, plus corp responsibilities.

I mean jeez Powers (the book not the terrible terrible show) is still going...

resulting post (rogermexico.), Friday, 11 September 2015 02:22 (eight years ago) link

Plus he teaches writing at Portland State or OSU

Gett Off, Eileen (WilliamC), Friday, 11 September 2015 02:29 (eight years ago) link

Bendis was best before he became a big deal and had to juggle the entire Marvel Universe. Daredevil and Alias had a more relaxed tempo and intimate tone. They're really worth your time DJP, mainly for the dialogue and characterisation, and he worked with some great artists too.

impossible raver (Re-Make/Re-Model), Friday, 11 September 2015 11:46 (eight years ago) link

what are the best Armor stories/titles? I only know her from the Joss Whedon book.

Really that's the only place she's been highlighted but there was a mini story about her family that I thought was very poignant.

I hear what you're all saying re: earlier Bendis; I'll put those into the queue.

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Friday, 11 September 2015 13:57 (eight years ago) link

seconding rm/rm's recommendations of bendis' daredevil particularly. the 'relaxed tempo' was kind of infuriating when i was reading them monthly as they came out, but i went back a couple of years ago and read the whole thing back-to-back and it's great. also an impressively sustained exercise in pushing readers' patience with matt murdock, as he gets painted further and further into a corner by his own actions

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 11 September 2015 17:57 (eight years ago) link

i like Bendis' takes on ultimate Spider Man, Miles and Avengers best but yeah, he seems overextended these days

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Friday, 11 September 2015 18:02 (eight years ago) link

Bringing it back to the thread, if you liked Netflix's Daredevil, you'll probably love Bendis's Daredevil. Brubaker's subsequent run is pretty great, too.

Fancy Fantasies (Old Lunch), Friday, 11 September 2015 18:10 (eight years ago) link

i like both, yes. but i'm a daredevil stan who had a copious back issue run starting with the 70's so i'm just glad they're getting the best outta the character.
i prefer brubaker to bendis on dd.

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Friday, 11 September 2015 18:13 (eight years ago) link

brubaker's run is really good, yeah

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 11 September 2015 18:37 (eight years ago) link

Rebecca Ferguson now "top of the list" for Captain Marvel apparently

Number None, Friday, 11 September 2015 18:43 (eight years ago) link

I'm down.

Fancy Fantasies (Old Lunch), Friday, 11 September 2015 18:44 (eight years ago) link

Brubaker Daredevil I bet is AMAZING

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Friday, 11 September 2015 19:00 (eight years ago) link

I think I prefer his Daredevil to his more feted run on Captain America. It's mostly just a natural progression of the wheels that Bendis set in motion but very well done. The first storyline is Matt Murdock trying to survive in prison after having his identity as Daredevil exposed while also maintaining plausible deniability about his identity as Daredevil. It's a fantastic set-up, well executed.

Fancy Fantasies (Old Lunch), Friday, 11 September 2015 19:06 (eight years ago) link

IIRC the first half of Brubaker's run, which picks up directly from Bendis's plots, is amaaaaazing. After that it felt like his only real idea was to pour misery onto the character and after a certain point it was just exhausting.

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Friday, 11 September 2015 19:25 (eight years ago) link

yeah, i like brubaker better on dd than cap too... cap was much more espionage than character development imo

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Friday, 11 September 2015 19:28 (eight years ago) link

Huge Bendis fan - even of his new old X-Men comic, to some extent - but I've tried two volumes of Guardians of the Galaxy now, and it's terrible - I think he's just not that good at space opera.

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Friday, 11 September 2015 19:33 (eight years ago) link

Actually I remember really liking Brubaker's Cap, probably the only one of his big runs I've read (that, DD, and his totally off-base Uncanny X-Men) that seemed to play to his strengths. The unreservedly long-term plotting, the schemes-within-schemes, the espionage and all that stuff, I dug it.

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Friday, 11 September 2015 19:34 (eight years ago) link

I hadn't read any comics in a long while until last summer after I saw Winter Soldier. I got as much of Brubaker's Cap run as I could find from the library. I was pretty impressed, and felt like the movie did a pretty nice job of capturing that vibe.

a silly gif of awkward larping (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 11 September 2015 19:48 (eight years ago) link

I flipped through the first 4 pages of the Alias TPB in the store and when I got to the point where Luke Cage referred to himself as "nigga", I nodded to myself and put it back.

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Friday, 18 September 2015 19:33 (eight years ago) link

Oh, Marvel MAX. So much to answer for.

Too Many Butts (Old Lunch), Friday, 18 September 2015 19:45 (eight years ago) link

The chapter on Marvel MAX in the Sean Howe book was truly embarrassing. That all happened well after I had stopped reading comics so I hadn't really had any idea.

a silly gif of awkward larping (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 18 September 2015 19:48 (eight years ago) link

Embarrassing for Marvel I assume?

I thought the Howard The Duck MAX series was really good.

Has there ever been a story with a George Galloway/Michael Moore type saying Latveria is a great country and Dr Doom is just "misunderstood"?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 19 September 2015 18:35 (eight years ago) link

Thats a p weird equivalency

Οὖτις, Saturday, 19 September 2015 18:44 (eight years ago) link

Especially since we know Doom wept after 9/11

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Saturday, 19 September 2015 19:12 (eight years ago) link

Cant remember if this was discussed on this forum but it was really odd when Romita Jr said that crying Doom and the other villains weren't supposed to literally be there.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 19 September 2015 19:16 (eight years ago) link

we have damage control (in development)

http://deadline.com/2015/10/marvel-damage-control-tv-series-comedy-abc-1201566243/

this could be the 30 rock to Powerless's Studio 60. Assuming either makes it to air.

da croupier, Friday, 2 October 2015 22:03 (eight years ago) link

somebody get Fred Hembeck on the line

a silly gif of awkward larping (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 2 October 2015 22:48 (eight years ago) link

the budget for the knees though

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Friday, 2 October 2015 22:53 (eight years ago) link

lo

Οὖτις, Friday, 2 October 2015 22:54 (eight years ago) link

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Οὖτις, Friday, 2 October 2015 22:54 (eight years ago) link

News and notes:

Following our hero’s debut adventure in this summer’s “Ant-Man,” Scott Lang will return alongside Hope Van Dyne on July 6, 2018 with Marvel’s “Ant-Man and the Wasp.” The sequel will mark the first Marvel Studios film named after its heroine.

Additionally, Ant-Man’s second adventure will lead to a couple of other films shifting their dates, with Marvel’s “Black Panther” moving up to February 16, 2018 and Marvel’s “Captain Marvel” landing on March 8, 2019.

Finally, three untitled Marvel Studios films will premiere on May 1, 2020, July 10, 2020, and November 6, 2020.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 October 2015 16:01 (eight years ago) link

sounds like they might move up or axe captain marvel depending on how a WOMAN IN THE TITLE HEAVENS THINK OF THE FANBOYS AND THE BANKERS goes over

a literal scarecrow on a quaint porch (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 8 October 2015 18:55 (eight years ago) link


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