She's nowhere on the same level as Miles but I remain very, very fond of Hisako Ichiki (Armor)
― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Thursday, 10 September 2015 19:34 (eight years ago) link
I like Miles Morales fine as a character, but I feel like his best days are ahead. Bendis has yet to really knock my socks off with a Miles story. It doesn't help that he first appeared when the Ultimate universe was starting to get awfully rickety.
― Fancy Fantasies (Old Lunch), Thursday, 10 September 2015 19:40 (eight years ago) link
xp -- what are the best Armor stories/titles? I only know her from the Joss Whedon book.(sorry for derailing the MCU thread even further)
― Gett Off, Eileen (WilliamC), Thursday, 10 September 2015 20:22 (eight years ago) link
afaict bendis is just spread too thin. can't even keep track of how many books he's writing, plus corp responsibilities.
I mean jeez Powers (the book not the terrible terrible show) is still going...
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Friday, 11 September 2015 02:22 (eight years ago) link
Plus he teaches writing at Portland State or OSU
― Gett Off, Eileen (WilliamC), Friday, 11 September 2015 02:29 (eight years ago) link
Bendis was best before he became a big deal and had to juggle the entire Marvel Universe. Daredevil and Alias had a more relaxed tempo and intimate tone. They're really worth your time DJP, mainly for the dialogue and characterisation, and he worked with some great artists too.
― impossible raver (Re-Make/Re-Model), Friday, 11 September 2015 11:46 (eight years ago) link
what are the best Armor stories/titles? I only know her from the Joss Whedon book.
Really that's the only place she's been highlighted but there was a mini story about her family that I thought was very poignant.
I hear what you're all saying re: earlier Bendis; I'll put those into the queue.
― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Friday, 11 September 2015 13:57 (eight years ago) link
seconding rm/rm's recommendations of bendis' daredevil particularly. the 'relaxed tempo' was kind of infuriating when i was reading them monthly as they came out, but i went back a couple of years ago and read the whole thing back-to-back and it's great. also an impressively sustained exercise in pushing readers' patience with matt murdock, as he gets painted further and further into a corner by his own actions
― bizarro gazzara, Friday, 11 September 2015 17:57 (eight years ago) link
i like Bendis' takes on ultimate Spider Man, Miles and Avengers best but yeah, he seems overextended these days
― Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Friday, 11 September 2015 18:02 (eight years ago) link
Bringing it back to the thread, if you liked Netflix's Daredevil, you'll probably love Bendis's Daredevil. Brubaker's subsequent run is pretty great, too.
― Fancy Fantasies (Old Lunch), Friday, 11 September 2015 18:10 (eight years ago) link
i like both, yes. but i'm a daredevil stan who had a copious back issue run starting with the 70's so i'm just glad they're getting the best outta the character.i prefer brubaker to bendis on dd.
― Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Friday, 11 September 2015 18:13 (eight years ago) link
brubaker's run is really good, yeah
― bizarro gazzara, Friday, 11 September 2015 18:37 (eight years ago) link
Rebecca Ferguson now "top of the list" for Captain Marvel apparently
― Number None, Friday, 11 September 2015 18:43 (eight years ago) link
I'm down.
― Fancy Fantasies (Old Lunch), Friday, 11 September 2015 18:44 (eight years ago) link
Brubaker Daredevil I bet is AMAZING
― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Friday, 11 September 2015 19:00 (eight years ago) link
I think I prefer his Daredevil to his more feted run on Captain America. It's mostly just a natural progression of the wheels that Bendis set in motion but very well done. The first storyline is Matt Murdock trying to survive in prison after having his identity as Daredevil exposed while also maintaining plausible deniability about his identity as Daredevil. It's a fantastic set-up, well executed.
― Fancy Fantasies (Old Lunch), Friday, 11 September 2015 19:06 (eight years ago) link
IIRC the first half of Brubaker's run, which picks up directly from Bendis's plots, is amaaaaazing. After that it felt like his only real idea was to pour misery onto the character and after a certain point it was just exhausting.
― Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Friday, 11 September 2015 19:25 (eight years ago) link
yeah, i like brubaker better on dd than cap too... cap was much more espionage than character development imo
― Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Friday, 11 September 2015 19:28 (eight years ago) link
Huge Bendis fan - even of his new old X-Men comic, to some extent - but I've tried two volumes of Guardians of the Galaxy now, and it's terrible - I think he's just not that good at space opera.
― sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Friday, 11 September 2015 19:33 (eight years ago) link
Actually I remember really liking Brubaker's Cap, probably the only one of his big runs I've read (that, DD, and his totally off-base Uncanny X-Men) that seemed to play to his strengths. The unreservedly long-term plotting, the schemes-within-schemes, the espionage and all that stuff, I dug it.
― Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Friday, 11 September 2015 19:34 (eight years ago) link
I hadn't read any comics in a long while until last summer after I saw Winter Soldier. I got as much of Brubaker's Cap run as I could find from the library. I was pretty impressed, and felt like the movie did a pretty nice job of capturing that vibe.
― a silly gif of awkward larping (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 11 September 2015 19:48 (eight years ago) link
I flipped through the first 4 pages of the Alias TPB in the store and when I got to the point where Luke Cage referred to himself as "nigga", I nodded to myself and put it back.
― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Friday, 18 September 2015 19:33 (eight years ago) link
Oh, Marvel MAX. So much to answer for.
― Too Many Butts (Old Lunch), Friday, 18 September 2015 19:45 (eight years ago) link
The chapter on Marvel MAX in the Sean Howe book was truly embarrassing. That all happened well after I had stopped reading comics so I hadn't really had any idea.
― a silly gif of awkward larping (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 18 September 2015 19:48 (eight years ago) link
Embarrassing for Marvel I assume?
I thought the Howard The Duck MAX series was really good.
Has there ever been a story with a George Galloway/Michael Moore type saying Latveria is a great country and Dr Doom is just "misunderstood"?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 19 September 2015 18:35 (eight years ago) link
Thats a p weird equivalency
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 19 September 2015 18:44 (eight years ago) link
Especially since we know Doom wept after 9/11
― sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Saturday, 19 September 2015 19:12 (eight years ago) link
Cant remember if this was discussed on this forum but it was really odd when Romita Jr said that crying Doom and the other villains weren't supposed to literally be there.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 19 September 2015 19:16 (eight years ago) link
we have damage control (in development)
http://deadline.com/2015/10/marvel-damage-control-tv-series-comedy-abc-1201566243/
this could be the 30 rock to Powerless's Studio 60. Assuming either makes it to air.
― da croupier, Friday, 2 October 2015 22:03 (eight years ago) link
somebody get Fred Hembeck on the line
― a silly gif of awkward larping (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 2 October 2015 22:48 (eight years ago) link
the budget for the knees though
― Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Friday, 2 October 2015 22:53 (eight years ago) link
lo
― Οὖτις, Friday, 2 October 2015 22:54 (eight years ago) link
l
News and notes:
Following our hero’s debut adventure in this summer’s “Ant-Man,” Scott Lang will return alongside Hope Van Dyne on July 6, 2018 with Marvel’s “Ant-Man and the Wasp.” The sequel will mark the first Marvel Studios film named after its heroine.Additionally, Ant-Man’s second adventure will lead to a couple of other films shifting their dates, with Marvel’s “Black Panther” moving up to February 16, 2018 and Marvel’s “Captain Marvel” landing on March 8, 2019.Finally, three untitled Marvel Studios films will premiere on May 1, 2020, July 10, 2020, and November 6, 2020.
Additionally, Ant-Man’s second adventure will lead to a couple of other films shifting their dates, with Marvel’s “Black Panther” moving up to February 16, 2018 and Marvel’s “Captain Marvel” landing on March 8, 2019.
Finally, three untitled Marvel Studios films will premiere on May 1, 2020, July 10, 2020, and November 6, 2020.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 October 2015 16:01 (eight years ago) link
sounds like they might move up or axe captain marvel depending on how a WOMAN IN THE TITLE HEAVENS THINK OF THE FANBOYS AND THE BANKERS goes over
― a literal scarecrow on a quaint porch (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 8 October 2015 18:55 (eight years ago) link
sigh, yeah.
i keep waiting for them to soak up a couple of third- or fourth-tier characters by throwing them together in a wacky buddy comedy type format. up until avengers i really had high hopes for hawkeye and wonder-man. like a bill & ted, harold & kumar deal, but with two dudes with (limited, unexciting) superpowers. maybe more like tango and cash, but without the police brutality and stallone's leadenness.
― Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 8 October 2015 19:07 (eight years ago) link
How is are Wonder Man's powers limited or unexciting?
― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Thursday, 8 October 2015 19:10 (eight years ago) link
well he's like super strong and fast and stuff and maybe he flies? He's basically a generic off-brand superhero. From what I can remember that's actually his origin, right? I mean it definitely does not have to be Wonder Man, just it seemed like the movie would work best if it was specifically a character no one had heard of who does things that in themselves aren't much to hang a movie on. Like Hancock, you know, but... better.
― Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 8 October 2015 19:12 (eight years ago) link
He can also transform into a being made out of pure energy, he never needs to eat or drink and one point could manipulate his size and shoot lasers out of his eyes.
― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Thursday, 8 October 2015 19:19 (eight years ago) link
It's probably too late to exploit the fact now, but his brain was the template for the Vision's, as well.
― Skin Boherts (Old Lunch), Thursday, 8 October 2015 19:24 (eight years ago) link
wonder man is basically an even less interesting superman
In 2012, Wonder Man was ranked 38th in IGN's list of "The Top 50 Avengers".
― a literal scarecrow on a quaint porch (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 8 October 2015 19:26 (eight years ago) link
i mean #37 is STORM and i honestly didn't even know she was an avenger but she beat out a guy who has been part of the team since the sixties
― a literal scarecrow on a quaint porch (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 8 October 2015 19:27 (eight years ago) link
no way they don't make captain marvel, there's already excitement, it's a super entertaining comic, and it ties together earth marvel and space marvel too well
― balls, Thursday, 8 October 2015 19:42 (eight years ago) link
are they going to interchange captain marvel and adam warlock in the thanos shit?
― panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 8 October 2015 19:43 (eight years ago) link
which captain marvel?
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 8 October 2015 19:50 (eight years ago) link
Carol Danvers, I believe.
― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Thursday, 8 October 2015 19:52 (eight years ago) link
the book is good.was good i guess? they're rebooting all this shit again aren't they.
― a literal scarecrow on a quaint porch (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 8 October 2015 20:03 (eight years ago) link
wonder man's first appearance, in avengers 9, is actually a pretty touching little story, in stan lee's best sappy manner (kirby drew the cover and prob contributed to plot/layouts too, tho' the name simon williams/wonder man seems a bit prosaic for him) - or at least, the death of a 'good guy' seemed pretty touching/unexpected to me when I read it in a british marvel reprint as a kid in the 1970s - and it was four whole years before they revived him
― sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Thursday, 8 October 2015 20:19 (eight years ago) link
ant-man did better than expected, they wanna exploit it with a sequel before paul rudd is 50 so they're pushing some stuff around. don't think this means any big drama re capn marvel or anything else.
― da croupier, Thursday, 8 October 2015 20:30 (eight years ago) link
shhh you're ruining the conspiracy
― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Thursday, 8 October 2015 20:31 (eight years ago) link