Rolling Marvel Cinematic Universe thread (+ a poll: Classic or Dud?)

Plus he teaches writing at Portland State or OSU

Bendis was best before he became a big deal and had to juggle the entire Marvel Universe. Daredevil and Alias had a more relaxed tempo and intimate tone. They're really worth your time DJP, mainly for the dialogue and characterisation, and he worked with some great artists too.

what are the best Armor stories/titles? I only know her from the Joss Whedon book.

Really that's the only place she's been highlighted but there was a mini story about her family that I thought was very poignant.

I hear what you're all saying re: earlier Bendis; I'll put those into the queue.

seconding rm/rm's recommendations of bendis' daredevil particularly. the 'relaxed tempo' was kind of infuriating when i was reading them monthly as they came out, but i went back a couple of years ago and read the whole thing back-to-back and it's great. also an impressively sustained exercise in pushing readers' patience with matt murdock, as he gets painted further and further into a corner by his own actions

i like Bendis' takes on ultimate Spider Man, Miles and Avengers best but yeah, he seems overextended these days

Bringing it back to the thread, if you liked Netflix's Daredevil, you'll probably love Bendis's Daredevil. Brubaker's subsequent run is pretty great, too.

i like both, yes. but i'm a daredevil stan who had a copious back issue run starting with the 70's so i'm just glad they're getting the best outta the character.
i prefer brubaker to bendis on dd.

brubaker's run is really good, yeah

Rebecca Ferguson now "top of the list" for Captain Marvel apparently

I'm down.

Brubaker Daredevil I bet is AMAZING

I think I prefer his Daredevil to his more feted run on Captain America. It's mostly just a natural progression of the wheels that Bendis set in motion but very well done. The first storyline is Matt Murdock trying to survive in prison after having his identity as Daredevil exposed while also maintaining plausible deniability about his identity as Daredevil. It's a fantastic set-up, well executed.

IIRC the first half of Brubaker's run, which picks up directly from Bendis's plots, is amaaaaazing. After that it felt like his only real idea was to pour misery onto the character and after a certain point it was just exhausting.

yeah, i like brubaker better on dd than cap too... cap was much more espionage than character development imo

Huge Bendis fan - even of his new old X-Men comic, to some extent - but I've tried two volumes of Guardians of the Galaxy now, and it's terrible - I think he's just not that good at space opera.

Actually I remember really liking Brubaker's Cap, probably the only one of his big runs I've read (that, DD, and his totally off-base Uncanny X-Men) that seemed to play to his strengths. The unreservedly long-term plotting, the schemes-within-schemes, the espionage and all that stuff, I dug it.

I hadn't read any comics in a long while until last summer after I saw Winter Soldier. I got as much of Brubaker's Cap run as I could find from the library. I was pretty impressed, and felt like the movie did a pretty nice job of capturing that vibe.

I flipped through the first 4 pages of the Alias TPB in the store and when I got to the point where Luke Cage referred to himself as "nigga", I nodded to myself and put it back.

Oh, Marvel MAX. So much to answer for.

The chapter on Marvel MAX in the Sean Howe book was truly embarrassing. That all happened well after I had stopped reading comics so I hadn't really had any idea.

Embarrassing for Marvel I assume?

I thought the Howard The Duck MAX series was really good.

Has there ever been a story with a George Galloway/Michael Moore type saying Latveria is a great country and Dr Doom is just "misunderstood"?

Thats a p weird equivalency

Especially since we know Doom wept after 9/11

Cant remember if this was discussed on this forum but it was really odd when Romita Jr said that crying Doom and the other villains weren't supposed to literally be there.

we have damage control (in development)

http://deadline.com/2015/10/marvel-damage-control-tv-series-comedy-abc-1201566243/

this could be the 30 rock to Powerless's Studio 60. Assuming either makes it to air.

somebody get Fred Hembeck on the line

the budget for the knees though

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News and notes:

Following our hero’s debut adventure in this summer’s “Ant-Man,” Scott Lang will return alongside Hope Van Dyne on July 6, 2018 with Marvel’s “Ant-Man and the Wasp.” The sequel will mark the first Marvel Studios film named after its heroine.

Additionally, Ant-Man’s second adventure will lead to a couple of other films shifting their dates, with Marvel’s “Black Panther” moving up to February 16, 2018 and Marvel’s “Captain Marvel” landing on March 8, 2019.

Finally, three untitled Marvel Studios films will premiere on May 1, 2020, July 10, 2020, and November 6, 2020.

sounds like they might move up or axe captain marvel depending on how a WOMAN IN THE TITLE HEAVENS THINK OF THE FANBOYS AND THE BANKERS goes over

sigh, yeah.

i keep waiting for them to soak up a couple of third- or fourth-tier characters by throwing them together in a wacky buddy comedy type format. up until avengers i really had high hopes for hawkeye and wonder-man. like a bill & ted, harold & kumar deal, but with two dudes with (limited, unexciting) superpowers. maybe more like tango and cash, but without the police brutality and stallone's leadenness.

How is are Wonder Man's powers limited or unexciting?

well he's like super strong and fast and stuff and maybe he flies? He's basically a generic off-brand superhero. From what I can remember that's actually his origin, right? I mean it definitely does not have to be Wonder Man, just it seemed like the movie would work best if it was specifically a character no one had heard of who does things that in themselves aren't much to hang a movie on. Like Hancock, you know, but... better.

He can also transform into a being made out of pure energy, he never needs to eat or drink and one point could manipulate his size and shoot lasers out of his eyes.

It's probably too late to exploit the fact now, but his brain was the template for the Vision's, as well.

wonder man is basically an even less interesting superman

In 2012, Wonder Man was ranked 38th in IGN's list of "The Top 50 Avengers".

i mean #37 is STORM and i honestly didn't even know she was an avenger but she beat out a guy who has been part of the team since the sixties

no way they don't make captain marvel, there's already excitement, it's a super entertaining comic, and it ties together earth marvel and space marvel too well

are they going to interchange captain marvel and adam warlock in the thanos shit?

which captain marvel?

Carol Danvers, I believe.

the book is good.
was good i guess? they're rebooting all this shit again aren't they.

wonder man's first appearance, in avengers 9, is actually a pretty touching little story, in stan lee's best sappy manner (kirby drew the cover and prob contributed to plot/layouts too, tho' the name simon williams/wonder man seems a bit prosaic for him) - or at least, the death of a 'good guy' seemed pretty touching/unexpected to me when I read it in a british marvel reprint as a kid in the 1970s - and it was four whole years before they revived him

ant-man did better than expected, they wanna exploit it with a sequel before paul rudd is 50 so they're pushing some stuff around. don't think this means any big drama re capn marvel or anything else.

shhh you're ruining the conspiracy

"An even less interesting superman" is still "what exactly is the problem that he can't fix while Jeremy Renner is still scratching himself and pouring his first cup of coffee"

Pouring one out for even the idea of a "Hawkeye and Black Widow" spy-em-up that fandom was convinced was on the cards after Avengers I.

"An even less interesting superman" is still "what exactly is the problem that he can't fix while Jeremy Renner is still scratching himself and pouring his first cup of coffee"

yeah I mean, this was more my point than anything else

i think a black widow movie could still be in the cards for post-infinity war mcu esp if capn marvel and the wasp prove female superhero movies do not inherently come out looking like Catwoman

while widow has been around as a character since iron man 2 scarjo is still the youngest actor playing an avenger - if they're lucky enough to make it to the 2020 cosmic cataclysm with its audience alive and eager for more, a small scale movie centered around her would be on point