Spotify - anyone heard of it?

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a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Monday, 21 September 2015 15:43 (eight years ago) link

glenn mcdonald to thread!

The Starry-Eyed Messenger Service (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 21 September 2015 15:48 (eight years ago) link

Had been looking forward to it showing up. Now it is the slight pang of seeing the unopened box of Scholastic Books on the teacher's desk.

The Starry-Eyed Messenger Service (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 21 September 2015 16:29 (eight years ago) link

I updated my desktop app this weekend and now my Local Files list is completely hosed, it doesn't seem to be able to load properly.

too young for seapunk (Moodles), Monday, 21 September 2015 16:32 (eight years ago) link

no playlist for me either

tayto fan (Michael B), Monday, 21 September 2015 17:34 (eight years ago) link

DW updating hit a glitch, but feverish repairs are underway. Do not despair, the music is not lost.

glenn mcdonald, Monday, 21 September 2015 19:13 (eight years ago) link

I am having to discover stuff all by myself :o

nashwan, Monday, 21 September 2015 19:22 (eight years ago) link

On September 21, 2015, Spotify became self-aware.

da croupier, Monday, 21 September 2015 19:27 (eight years ago) link

http://i.investopedia.com/dimages/graphics/spotify_logo.jpg
glenn, I'm afraid I can't do that

The Starry-Eyed Messenger Service (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 21 September 2015 20:04 (eight years ago) link

try again
http://evolver.fm/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/spotify-logo.png
I'm sorry, glenn, I'm afraid I can't do that

The Starry-Eyed Messenger Service (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 21 September 2015 20:06 (eight years ago) link

Gizmodo: Going back to the waves for a second. What are they?
CW: *laughing* I was the first guy to do the logo back in 2006 and we came up with the waves then. It's basically illustrating streaming. Or at least that's what the thought was back then and now. It's supposed to be streaming.
AH: I've read some discussions on Twitter that it's audio waves. But we think of it as streaming. It's good that it could be both.

but the waves in a stream do not diverge, CW! maybe it illustrates estuary-ing!

Sufjan Grafton, Monday, 21 September 2015 20:25 (eight years ago) link

love his pepsi logo

Sufjan Grafton, Monday, 21 September 2015 20:54 (eight years ago) link

i got discover weekly for the first time last week and if a human being had put that playlist together and said "here are some songs i think you'd like that you haven't heard before!" i would have been profoundly offended tbh

i'm not gonna type all of them up but this is a good representation:

james brown - i feel good
blondie - heart of glass
rick springfield - jessie's girl
righteous bros - you've lost that lovin feelin
earth wind and fire - september
supremes - reflections
tom jones - delilah
omi - cheerleader (not the rmx version that i've listened to which makes this a lazy ass recommendation)
bananarama - cruel summer
chubby checker - the twist

FIRST of all i think all those were literally #1 songs? you think i need to "discover" these? don't insult me spotify, not after all the time we spend together.

second why are they almost all oldies (only two of my recs were from the last 30 years)? i realize i may be messing up my recommendations by listening to glenn miller and duke ellington for hours on end as my bg study music but i can't draw the line from that to bananarama.

i mean don't get me wrong these are all jamz of the highest order but i didn't need spotify to tell me that.

my playlist this week is an improvement in terms of newer stuff and stuff i haven't heard, but it still has macho man, love will keep us together and never gonna give you up on it so my final grade is

o_O o_O o_O three side-eyes out of four

musically, Monday, 21 September 2015 22:21 (eight years ago) link

yeah I think it wd be very nice if, say, it would use number of spotify plays total on a track as an argument against foisting ir on you. maybe even, the more youve listened to whatever is making it think you'll like an extremely popular song, the more likely it is to go, man, this guy is a serious grunge fan, so if he's not listening to 'smells like teen spirit' it's probably by choice.

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Monday, 21 September 2015 23:12 (eight years ago) link

It's been most interesting seeing how many monthly listeners some of my favorite artists have:

A Sunny Day in Glasgow: 38,000
Pinback: 133,000
Ariel Pink: 90,000
John Maus: 60,000
Nite Jewel: 31,000
Roman a Clef: 646

calstars, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 00:05 (eight years ago) link

By contrast:

Drake: 14,000,000

calstars, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 00:07 (eight years ago) link

I still wish there was a way to access the list that these numbers are stored in : )

calstars, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 00:07 (eight years ago) link

Averaging 3 listens per listener and a $.007 royalty rate, this works out to:

ASDIG $798
Pinback $2,793
Apink $1,890
Maus $1,260
Nite J $651
RAC $14
Drake $294,000

calstars, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 00:13 (eight years ago) link

More than I expected

calstars, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 00:13 (eight years ago) link

do remember that's the amount that goes to the "rights holders" - there's a whole 'nother breakdown before we get to What's In Drake's Wallet

da croupier, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 00:18 (eight years ago) link

a nine month old condom, a receipt from tim hortons and a discover card

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 00:20 (eight years ago) link

updated now; still trying to reverse-engineer what the hell keeps putting shit like HAERTS and such in here. my best guess is goldfrapp is responsible, but given that all I listen to from them is Tales of Us...

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 14:44 (eight years ago) link

Wondering if it compensates for track lengths or if it's just the standard audioscrobbler 2 minutes = tick! algorithm. Listening to a 60 minute track represents just as much commitment to an artist as a 15 track album.

steppenwolf in white van speaker scam (ledge), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 15:03 (eight years ago) link

Some of our things are duration-sensitive, some are not. Most of our playlist-generation things also use constrained duration ranges, because sticking a 60:00 track into a multi-song playlist is usually worse than picking something shorter. For some of my genre-based lists I have specific exceptions to this, so 18:30 symphony movements are OK in classical, for instance...

glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 15:18 (eight years ago) link

LOL at that list above that starts w "I Feel Good"

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 15:55 (eight years ago) link

well MY discover playlist updated, and while it's a TERRIFIC mix in terms of Other Songs By Acts You Like, And Big Hits By Acts Like Act You Like, the word "discover" feels downright sarcastic to describe it

da croupier, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 16:04 (eight years ago) link

Big Hits By Acts Like Acts You Like, rather

da croupier, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 16:05 (eight years ago) link

that's not totally fair, though. I count about 3 groups I haven't heard before, and maybe 5 or 6 big acts that I might not have gotten around to playing on Spotify yet. But one of those is "How Soon Is Now" by the Smiths.

da croupier, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 16:08 (eight years ago) link

I enjoy my Discover playlist. I finally listened to Magazine (like The Clash meets Joy Division!) and John Maus or whatever. Both artists I had heard of but never explored. Bonus points for throwing in Compulsion by Martin Gore, but with the two exceptions I mentioned above, none of the tracks or artists were Discoveries. It's a good start though.

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 16:09 (eight years ago) link

i say this not to say "this sucks" - because i totally listen to this solid playlist. it's more that I would also LOVE a discover spotify playlist that avoiding picking songs and bands it should be transparent I've already discovered based on my listening history.

da croupier, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 16:10 (eight years ago) link

This will come...

glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 16:10 (eight years ago) link

cool!

da croupier, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 16:11 (eight years ago) link

I would love to see what hoary chestnuts are in mine, but it's doing that thing where you start the program and have to wait for 3-5 minutes of spinning animations before any of the panels populate with anything.

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 16:11 (eight years ago) link

I know its been gone forever but getting rid of the starred feature is still almost enough to jump. I miss it every day. I try to use the plus sign in the same way but now don't have a one click way to add a whole album to listen to later without adding every track to my favorite tracks. I just don't get why that feature was removed, WHYYYYYYY.

Spottie, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 16:17 (eight years ago) link

the worst thing is that the Star list is still there but i can't make additions so it sits there and mocks me.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 16:24 (eight years ago) link

well i can add to it but not by just hitting a star so i,m not doing it.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 16:25 (eight years ago) link

glenn, feel free to cut and paste this to a higher up muckety muck if it's helpful:

I am a spotify power user and have the service running about 18 hours a day. Following repeated dissatisfaction with updated versions of Spotify, I downgraded to v.8.5 several months ago. It functions easier and the interface is far cleaner. Though I do miss some of the updated features, statistics and the ability to subscribe to artists, I have not been tempted to upgrade at any point.

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 16:27 (eight years ago) link

yeah haven't added a single track to it since the feature was removed xp.

Spottie, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 16:33 (eight years ago) link

Re: starring, you can just drag the album cover over to the Starred playlist. Or any other playlist.

The new client has been dramatically improved since several months ago, so a) you could try it again, and b) if you aren't willing to try it again, you're kind of saying you don't care whether it's actually better now, which is totally your prerogative but kind of makes your feedback moot.

glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 16:33 (eight years ago) link

Still waiting for DW update. Not really expecting Roborec to be like the proverbial cool kid in high school back in the day, just want it to be basically in the right direction with a couple of new Topics For Further Research. Still, lol at the "I Feel Good" playlist.

The Starry-Eyed Messenger Service (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 16:34 (eight years ago) link

xp I will likely retry an upgrade at some point to see what's improved; my point is that feature bloat and functionality wavering is scaring me off

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 16:38 (eight years ago) link

Re: starring, you can just drag the album cover over to the Starred playlist. Or any other playlist.

The new client has been dramatically improved since several months ago, so a) you could try it again, and b) if you aren't willing to try it again, you're kind of saying you don't care whether it's actually better now, which is totally your prerogative but kind of makes your feedback moot.

― glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, September 22, 2015 9:33 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

there's ways around all of this of course (with a couple steps) but being able to star a track on the phone at a stop light or on my desktop without having to drag anything around was my favorite feature. idk whatever i should get over it probs but then i start messing around on apple music and see that little heart that I can click by the track and start to wondering...

Spottie, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 16:41 (eight years ago) link

I haven't gotten over it. Stars forever.

Jeff, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 16:43 (eight years ago) link

http://www.searchviews.com/images/sneetches.gif

Sufjan Grafton, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 19:24 (eight years ago) link

people complaining itt will receive aaron neville's cotton jingle repeated 12 times in their discover playlist next week

Sufjan Grafton, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 19:33 (eight years ago) link

Latest playlist looks okay. Mostly reasonably familiar, some novelties, one band I hate. I'll take it.

Lol at Sneetches.

The Starry-Eyed Messenger Service (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 19:34 (eight years ago) link

i still love spotify! i probably won't leave it xp. DONT MESS WITH MY DW PLAYLIST OK

Spottie, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 19:52 (eight years ago) link

Have to say, in the 6(?) weeks of Discover Weekly, I have been led to at least six albums I love that I didn't know of before, including at least one band I had previously ignored due to their shitty name

as verbose and purple as a Peter Ustinov made of plums (James Morrison), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 02:13 (eight years ago) link

spotify sent me spotifymail in Portuguese because I listen to some Brazilian music?

Sufjan Grafton, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 17:30 (eight years ago) link


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