Yeah, I don't really get why they went the super-limited route with those earlier copyright extension releases.
But in all honesty, while I know it's aesthetically the least-appealing option, if the 18-disc set's contents were available as a download-only, I could see myself ponying up $100 for it (like what the Beatles did with their 1963 Bootleg set) (except that was way cheaper than $100) (and hey, why wasn't there a 1964 set?)
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― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 1 October 2015 19:52 (eight years ago) link
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but how can those ever feel like anything but a horrible compromise? :)
don't you at least want to know if they really cherry-picked the best stuff?
i guess i could put it more prosaically: i really want all this music, but cheaper, and above all i can't stand these super-deluxe box sets with the pointless coffee-table books, the vial of dylan's dead skin cells, the bottle of Absolutely Sweet Marie energy juice so you can stay up through all 18 discs....
― wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 1 October 2015 19:53 (eight years ago) link
yeah, i see what you're saying. with something like this, it almost seems like they should roll out a whole other means of presenting it ... like a subscription service or something? i don't know. i mean, i want to hear it all, but yeah, i couldn't care less about 7-inch repros etc.
― tylerw, Thursday, 1 October 2015 20:15 (eight years ago) link
Guess that means that you are not a real Dylanologist then, right, amateurist?
― Alone Again XOR (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 1 October 2015 20:18 (eight years ago) link
i guess not!
― wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, 2 October 2015 03:55 (eight years ago) link
man i didn't even realise there was an official basement tapes
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Friday, 2 October 2015 07:10 (eight years ago) link
7 inch repros are plain silly, but I like the booklets
― niels, Friday, 2 October 2015 07:34 (eight years ago) link
Booklets are only of relevance to the music as presented here are they? I mean there would be no point wnhatsoever to release what's in them outside of the box? Basically I wouldn't mind a proper peruse and might buy something like that if amended for standalone purpose though maybe that greil Marcus book of a few years ago covers the same ground? Or was that just focused on Like A Rolling Stone?
Is there anything out bookwise specifically on this high mercury sound era?
― Stevolende, Friday, 2 October 2015 08:35 (eight years ago) link
Are these mega-boxes priced at this level to effectively pay for all those that will be sharing the d/l versions with their pals?
― Mark G, Friday, 2 October 2015 09:53 (eight years ago) link
Booklets are cool! They have great photos, essays on the period, proper song credits etc. Wouldn't buy the as books, but they're good w/ cd/lp boxes.
― niels, Friday, 2 October 2015 09:57 (eight years ago) link
Except for the "Bob Dylan e.p.'s" one that came with "Tell Tale Signs", pointless and price-enhancing.
― Mark G, Friday, 2 October 2015 09:59 (eight years ago) link
Please someone stop me from getting the 18 disc one...I'm helpless to resist
― Iago Galdston, Saturday, 3 October 2015 14:45 (eight years ago) link
Don't do it!
― Alone Again XOR (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 3 October 2015 15:30 (eight years ago) link
Or rather, do it and live blog for the rest of us.
― Alone Again XOR (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 3 October 2015 15:31 (eight years ago) link
Dont Do It!
LOL, live blogging this -- "That was another false start of 'Like A Rolling Stone'..."
― Iago Galdston, Saturday, 3 October 2015 16:15 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0azcWTluaQ&feature=youtu.be
― Οὖτις, Monday, 5 October 2015 17:21 (eight years ago) link
Oh great...I narrowly avoided buying the 18 disc one because I entered something wrong and it didn't go through. Now with this clip thing, I know I'll be back--helpless addict that I am
― Iago Galdston, Monday, 5 October 2015 18:02 (eight years ago) link
Is that Penn Jillette doing the voiceover?
― Alone Again XOR (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 5 October 2015 18:15 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, I can't seem to figure out if I like him or not. I heard he has helped bands like Half Japanese out, but then there's also not good stuff about him?
― Iago Galdston, Monday, 5 October 2015 18:18 (eight years ago) link
He's a huge fan of Iggy Pop and Lou Reed. In fact I once saw him standing with Lou outside a yogurt shop on Montague Street. I walked halfway down the block past a bunch of stock still backwards looking people before I learned what the commotion was about.
― Alone Again XOR (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 5 October 2015 18:23 (eight years ago) link
Penn Jillette is an asshole, c;mon now
― Οὖτις, Monday, 5 October 2015 18:28 (eight years ago) link
he never lets the other dude talk!anyway, some cool stuff in that vid... funny that "she belongs to me" was initially called "my girl".
― tylerw, Monday, 5 October 2015 18:38 (eight years ago) link
Yes. Only other original working titles I know are "It Takes A Lot To Laugh, It Takes A Train To Cry" was "Phantom Engineer(s)" and "Visions of Johanna" was "Freeze Out."
― That Thin, Wild Mercury Poisoning (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 5 October 2015 18:40 (eight years ago) link
Amazon's preselling 6-discs-worth of mp3s for $59 (vinyl's only $69) A couple of downloads are already available.here tis:http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015LDCYDG?keywords=bob%20dylan&qid=1444070669&ref_=sr_1_3_twi_mus_2&sr=8-3
― dow, Monday, 5 October 2015 18:49 (eight years ago) link
think the vinyl is just the two-disc version... the one for losers, man!
― tylerw, Monday, 5 October 2015 19:01 (eight years ago) link
sometimes i like to imagine that teller is a thoughtful, committed democratic socialist
― playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Monday, 5 October 2015 19:03 (eight years ago) link
such a shame that dylan never recorded this song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1fpDWXwfso
― flappy bird, Monday, 5 October 2015 19:11 (eight years ago) link
Thanks---oh btw, Penn did have an indie label, 50 Skadillion Watts, with 1/2 Japanese, Moe Tucker, some kind of connection with VU fan clubs etc. hnady back in the pre-Web, mail order daze. Annoyance factor for me is his "skepticism"/trolling re climate change, govt. aid, private charity etc (this last from possibly bogus but plausibly Penn-style Fecebook quotes) cos cool guys like us know the score nyuk nyuk.
― dow, Monday, 5 October 2015 19:18 (eight years ago) link
Very enjoyable magic though---yet another example of talent/skills vs. personality/opinions, as with Dylan sometimes.
― dow, Monday, 5 October 2015 19:20 (eight years ago) link
Penn also toured with the Residents early on (he was the announcer/narrator on the Mole Show tour).
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 5 October 2015 19:22 (eight years ago) link
I have this record, it's pretty entertaining:http://cdn.discogs.com/NaRhoUhNtXjWz6_6zD5t3Bq-3yk=/fit-in/600x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(96)/discogs-images/R-622877-1223411710.jpeg.jpg
― Οὖτις, Monday, 5 October 2015 19:23 (eight years ago) link
wow that is a pretty rare record! I had never heard of it, cool idea for a label overview:
The premise of this record is that Penn Jillette (of Penn & Teller fame) is locked in a hotel room for a week and given the entire Ralph Records discography to listen to and comment on. There is a short excerpt of a Ralph tune, and then Penn comments on it, and so on. Jillette dislikes the records, and by side 2 he has a nervous breakdown.
― sleeve, Monday, 5 October 2015 19:35 (eight years ago) link
Thanks all for the Teller opinions. By the way, I bought the 18 disc one!
― Iago Galdston, Monday, 5 October 2015 20:51 (eight years ago) link
Wow, MX-80 cameo on a Dylan thread!
― kevin smith what a bro (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 5 October 2015 22:04 (eight years ago) link
I could see D. digging "Cry Uncle" and others from the MX-80 family bush.
― dow, Monday, 5 October 2015 22:15 (eight years ago) link
Another working title: "Can You Please Crawl Out Your Window?" started out as "Look At Barry Run."
― That Thin, Wild Mercury Poisoning (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 5 October 2015 23:46 (eight years ago) link
And "Positively 4th Street" was "Black Dalli Rue."
― That Thin, Wild Mercury Poisoning (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 5 October 2015 23:50 (eight years ago) link
that video makes me wish for more visual accompaniment in the bootleg series :P
― niels, Tuesday, 6 October 2015 08:39 (eight years ago) link
http://www.npr.org/2015/10/30/451169307/first-listen-bob-dylan-the-cutting-edge-1965-1966-the-bootleg-series-vol-12might not be of interest to anyone who isn't a total dylan-head, but goddamn i am loving hearing this stuff. that "visions of johanna"! unbelievable.
― tylerw, Friday, 30 October 2015 20:05 (eight years ago) link
Had been keeping my distance but now I think I will be pledging my team.
― You're a Big URL Now (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 30 October 2015 20:12 (eight years ago) link
on first casual listen wasn't overwhelmed but I like the crisp remaster sound and look forward to hearing it all proper - johanna is grrrreat!
― niels, Monday, 2 November 2015 15:53 (eight years ago) link
Would kind of like to hear Nashville Skyline in this series, with more Cash, maybe looser alt-takes of nice neat masters, and songs left off the LP (more like "Country Pie," hopefully). Hard to imagine John Wesley Harding sounding different, but that's what I thought about Kafka 'til I read editions with his outtakes incl. in the back.
― dow, Monday, 2 November 2015 16:14 (eight years ago) link
Like what I heard on that NPR first listen, but don't think I'm going for the 18 cd box version on Dylan's website.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 2 November 2015 16:20 (eight years ago) link
I went all in on the big boy. Can't wait!
― Iago Galdston, Monday, 2 November 2015 17:45 (eight years ago) link
ysi?
― tylerw, Monday, 2 November 2015 17:48 (eight years ago) link
Call me when they get to releasing the Blood on the Tracks sessions. . .
― austinato (Austin), Monday, 2 November 2015 17:48 (eight years ago) link
Look for the Outlook calendar invite in your email
― Comme Si, Kamasi (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 2 November 2015 18:20 (eight years ago) link
even though it's objectively kind of a mess I'm digging this shambling Bo Diddley take on "Outlaw Blues"
Yes, ^this! Thought about posting about it over the weekend.
― Memes of the Pwn Age (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 2 November 2015 18:24 (eight years ago) link