https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0azcWTluaQ&feature=youtu.be
― Οὖτις, Monday, 5 October 2015 17:21 (eight years ago) link
Oh great...I narrowly avoided buying the 18 disc one because I entered something wrong and it didn't go through. Now with this clip thing, I know I'll be back--helpless addict that I am
― Iago Galdston, Monday, 5 October 2015 18:02 (eight years ago) link
Is that Penn Jillette doing the voiceover?
― Alone Again XOR (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 5 October 2015 18:15 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, I can't seem to figure out if I like him or not. I heard he has helped bands like Half Japanese out, but then there's also not good stuff about him?
― Iago Galdston, Monday, 5 October 2015 18:18 (eight years ago) link
He's a huge fan of Iggy Pop and Lou Reed. In fact I once saw him standing with Lou outside a yogurt shop on Montague Street. I walked halfway down the block past a bunch of stock still backwards looking people before I learned what the commotion was about.
― Alone Again XOR (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 5 October 2015 18:23 (eight years ago) link
Penn Jillette is an asshole, c;mon now
― Οὖτις, Monday, 5 October 2015 18:28 (eight years ago) link
he never lets the other dude talk!anyway, some cool stuff in that vid... funny that "she belongs to me" was initially called "my girl".
― tylerw, Monday, 5 October 2015 18:38 (eight years ago) link
Yes. Only other original working titles I know are "It Takes A Lot To Laugh, It Takes A Train To Cry" was "Phantom Engineer(s)" and "Visions of Johanna" was "Freeze Out."
― That Thin, Wild Mercury Poisoning (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 5 October 2015 18:40 (eight years ago) link
Amazon's preselling 6-discs-worth of mp3s for $59 (vinyl's only $69) A couple of downloads are already available.here tis:http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015LDCYDG?keywords=bob%20dylan&qid=1444070669&ref_=sr_1_3_twi_mus_2&sr=8-3
― dow, Monday, 5 October 2015 18:49 (eight years ago) link
think the vinyl is just the two-disc version... the one for losers, man!
― tylerw, Monday, 5 October 2015 19:01 (eight years ago) link
sometimes i like to imagine that teller is a thoughtful, committed democratic socialist
― playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Monday, 5 October 2015 19:03 (eight years ago) link
such a shame that dylan never recorded this song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1fpDWXwfso
― flappy bird, Monday, 5 October 2015 19:11 (eight years ago) link
Thanks---oh btw, Penn did have an indie label, 50 Skadillion Watts, with 1/2 Japanese, Moe Tucker, some kind of connection with VU fan clubs etc. hnady back in the pre-Web, mail order daze. Annoyance factor for me is his "skepticism"/trolling re climate change, govt. aid, private charity etc (this last from possibly bogus but plausibly Penn-style Fecebook quotes) cos cool guys like us know the score nyuk nyuk.
― dow, Monday, 5 October 2015 19:18 (eight years ago) link
Very enjoyable magic though---yet another example of talent/skills vs. personality/opinions, as with Dylan sometimes.
― dow, Monday, 5 October 2015 19:20 (eight years ago) link
Penn also toured with the Residents early on (he was the announcer/narrator on the Mole Show tour).
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 5 October 2015 19:22 (eight years ago) link
I have this record, it's pretty entertaining:http://cdn.discogs.com/NaRhoUhNtXjWz6_6zD5t3Bq-3yk=/fit-in/600x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(96)/discogs-images/R-622877-1223411710.jpeg.jpg
― Οὖτις, Monday, 5 October 2015 19:23 (eight years ago) link
wow that is a pretty rare record! I had never heard of it, cool idea for a label overview:
The premise of this record is that Penn Jillette (of Penn & Teller fame) is locked in a hotel room for a week and given the entire Ralph Records discography to listen to and comment on. There is a short excerpt of a Ralph tune, and then Penn comments on it, and so on. Jillette dislikes the records, and by side 2 he has a nervous breakdown.
― sleeve, Monday, 5 October 2015 19:35 (eight years ago) link
Thanks all for the Teller opinions. By the way, I bought the 18 disc one!
― Iago Galdston, Monday, 5 October 2015 20:51 (eight years ago) link
Wow, MX-80 cameo on a Dylan thread!
― kevin smith what a bro (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 5 October 2015 22:04 (eight years ago) link
I could see D. digging "Cry Uncle" and others from the MX-80 family bush.
― dow, Monday, 5 October 2015 22:15 (eight years ago) link
Another working title: "Can You Please Crawl Out Your Window?" started out as "Look At Barry Run."
― That Thin, Wild Mercury Poisoning (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 5 October 2015 23:46 (eight years ago) link
And "Positively 4th Street" was "Black Dalli Rue."
― That Thin, Wild Mercury Poisoning (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 5 October 2015 23:50 (eight years ago) link
that video makes me wish for more visual accompaniment in the bootleg series :P
― niels, Tuesday, 6 October 2015 08:39 (eight years ago) link
http://www.npr.org/2015/10/30/451169307/first-listen-bob-dylan-the-cutting-edge-1965-1966-the-bootleg-series-vol-12might not be of interest to anyone who isn't a total dylan-head, but goddamn i am loving hearing this stuff. that "visions of johanna"! unbelievable.
― tylerw, Friday, 30 October 2015 20:05 (eight years ago) link
Had been keeping my distance but now I think I will be pledging my team.
― You're a Big URL Now (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 30 October 2015 20:12 (eight years ago) link
on first casual listen wasn't overwhelmed but I like the crisp remaster sound and look forward to hearing it all proper - johanna is grrrreat!
― niels, Monday, 2 November 2015 15:53 (eight years ago) link
Would kind of like to hear Nashville Skyline in this series, with more Cash, maybe looser alt-takes of nice neat masters, and songs left off the LP (more like "Country Pie," hopefully). Hard to imagine John Wesley Harding sounding different, but that's what I thought about Kafka 'til I read editions with his outtakes incl. in the back.
― dow, Monday, 2 November 2015 16:14 (eight years ago) link
Like what I heard on that NPR first listen, but don't think I'm going for the 18 cd box version on Dylan's website.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 2 November 2015 16:20 (eight years ago) link
I went all in on the big boy. Can't wait!
― Iago Galdston, Monday, 2 November 2015 17:45 (eight years ago) link
ysi?
― tylerw, Monday, 2 November 2015 17:48 (eight years ago) link
Call me when they get to releasing the Blood on the Tracks sessions. . .
― austinato (Austin), Monday, 2 November 2015 17:48 (eight years ago) link
Look for the Outlook calendar invite in your email
― Comme Si, Kamasi (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 2 November 2015 18:20 (eight years ago) link
even though it's objectively kind of a mess I'm digging this shambling Bo Diddley take on "Outlaw Blues"
Yes, ^this! Thought about posting about it over the weekend.
― Memes of the Pwn Age (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 2 November 2015 18:24 (eight years ago) link
it's pretty fun -- i just like that dylan (and his musicians) were definitely working w/o a clear roadmap in '65.
― tylerw, Monday, 2 November 2015 18:26 (eight years ago) link
In the same way he drew upon and inserted himself into the blues tradition of borrowing and repurposing, his alternate takes don't all seem like failed attempts or rough drafts, more like variations on a theme.
― Memes of the Pwn Age (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 2 November 2015 18:29 (eight years ago) link
how do these compare with the boots? are there previously unheard takes? I haven't read anything about it.
― droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 2 November 2015 18:29 (eight years ago) link
loads of previously unheard takes + pristine sound quality
― Οὖτις, Monday, 2 November 2015 18:34 (eight years ago) link
haha anyone catch - "Once upon a time you dressed so fine, threw the dumbs a bime in your prime - DIDN'T YOU?"
― Comme Si, Kamasi (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 2 November 2015 18:34 (eight years ago) link
haha yes
― niels, Monday, 2 November 2015 18:36 (eight years ago) link
you know, stadows
― Οὖτις, Monday, 2 November 2015 18:37 (eight years ago) link
lol
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 2 November 2015 18:41 (eight years ago) link
wow
so is this "circulating" yet?
― droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 2 November 2015 18:41 (eight years ago) link
well you can listen to a bunch of it on that NPR link upthread
― Οὖτις, Monday, 2 November 2015 18:44 (eight years ago) link
xpost to Euler: do your own homework, young man. Think this might be the same take of "Barbed Wire Fence" (Bloomfield playing those bob wire riffs?) as on the excellent Series of Dreams, and seem to recall SoD incl. even faster "It Takes A Lot To Laugh..."--anyway, past the okay acoustic and maybe semi-acoustic versions, some with not-quite-there-yet lyrics, the fast versions are all fun, and I def. never thought of "Johanna" as a fast girl, but can see why he chose the slower masters, as effective changes of pace: world-weary "up all night" "Train" between the spiky roadkill races and mood-swing ballads on Highway 61, slower, spookier prowl in the dank smokey mood halls of Blonde on Blonde's "Visions," where we also got cooler, dryer blues for "Leopard-Skin" and "Pledging My Time," etc. But yeah good to have these; also wish he'd found room on one of the original LPs for the Stonsey "If You Gotta Go (Go Now)." Sounds like he's in some kind of triangle on "She's Your Lover Now"; don't remember that one!
― dow, Monday, 2 November 2015 18:47 (eight years ago) link
lol @ bob wire
― Οὖτις, Monday, 2 November 2015 18:51 (eight years ago) link
"She's Your Lover Now"
this was bootlegged a lot, incredible song
― Οὖτις, Monday, 2 November 2015 18:52 (eight years ago) link
yeah, the solo piano version was booted, the (barely) incomplete version showed up on the first bootleg series, both incredible. take on the NPR stream is very different. actually sounds very close to the early waltz-time "rolling stone"s actually. will be interesting to hear how it developed ... and then undeveloped, I guess, since they gave up on it at some point.
― tylerw, Monday, 2 November 2015 18:56 (eight years ago) link
Sure I remember Greil Marcus quoting it in Mystery Train
― Memes of the Pwn Age (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 2 November 2015 18:58 (eight years ago) link
on this unreleased take i think he says "what are ya some kinda moose - Ain’t there nothin’ you can say?" lol
― tylerw, Monday, 2 November 2015 18:59 (eight years ago) link