Velvet Underground Trainspotting Question

Sweet Sister Ray is a Klimek tape, supposedly somebody erased the "Sister Ray" part that it starts going into at the end.

Word was, that the orig taper loaned it to Lou with Lou promising that he would give him it back, promise. When he got it, he was vexed to find that the Sister Ray part had gone.

When he got it back, that is.

I think that's the same as "Sweet Sister Ray"
might be based around the same thing but i think "sweet rock and roll" had developed into a bit more of a song in the summer of 68 when (morrison claimed) it was recorded, but the tape vanished.
never heard the story about Klimek loaning Lou the Sweet Sister Ray tape. Though apparently there was a big long "Hey Mr. Rain" that got taped over by his sister sometime.

from a forum post:

According to various stories, the rest of that show was either accidentally erased by Klimek's sister when she was fooling around with friends, or deliberately erased by Lou when he borrowed the tape. Personally I'm not wholly convinced by this. Klimek supposedly has hours of uncirculated live VU (supposedly just about every show they played in the Cleveland area, starting with the EPI in 1966), and the rest of this badboy could be one of them.

http://akson.sgh.waw.pl/~kg23187/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1085&start=10

here's one of the alleged uncirculated klimek tapes
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPrtjX_UcAAAJgX.png
he apparently would like them released officially but it hasn't happened yet...

^1969

saddened by the taped over "hey mr. rain". that "hey mr. rain" from june 13, 1993 is possibly the saving grace of the reunion fiasco. prague got and deserved real velvets.

yeah apparently the cleveland mr rain was a half hour long. mind boggling.

that "hey mr. rain" from june 13, 1993 is possibly the saving grace of the reunion fiasco.

OTM. It's the best thing on Live MCMXCIII by an embarrassingly wide margin.

Agree, but also will throw a bone to "Coyote", the new song.

i don't think the 93 live album is quite as bad as everyone seems to think... lou is the weak link, but the others sound good. mainly wish that sterling would've stepped out on lead more -- he only gets like two solos.

Yeah, his "Rock and roll" was a highlight.

When I went to see Moe and Sterl play at the uni, he actually sang! One line, but whoa! Audience shock!

ha, well that's him warbling that one line on the 93 "im sticking with you" right?
just realized that the Peel Slowly & See box set is 20 years old this fall... crazy. i can remember saving my pennies and nickels!

Yes, it was that one.

did everyone read this recent/great article about morrison's post-VU life?
https://medium.com/@TheAlcalde/what-goes-on-524982f49915

I remember that box as it arrived at ours the same day I got us flights to New York, first time!

perfect timing

Yeah! I thought so.

Good article there too, thanks.

.. Although they suggest they didn't do much from WLWH, but they did most if not all of it, including "The Gift"

yeah three out of six songs...
funny that they didn't so sister ray in 93, guess they were too scared. i think i read that they tried it at a rehearsal...

Probably the length of it, they could do five other songs in the time.

ha, great article, never thought abt Morrison being the inspiration for "Tugboat"

yeah, pretty funny.
also wild that the UT band he joined kicked him out! great job, dudes.

just realized that the Peel Slowly & See box set is 20 years old this fall... crazy. i can remember saving my pennies and nickels!

got this second-hand a couple years later, with trade-in of my first batch of unwanted promos as a writer, at local CD Warehouse. Thought I didn't like the Velvets, based on friend who became obsessed w/them in 1993 around the time of the reunion (I'm still mostly cool on the first album) but hearing WL/WH and VU and Loaded was a proper revelation. And the liner notes... David Fricke is the king of the form.

great article, thanks!

i don't think the 93 live album is quite as bad as everyone seems to think... lou is the weak link, but the others sound good. mainly wish that sterling would've stepped out on lead more -- he only gets like two solos.

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I should probably revisit it, but whenever I see the cover, all I can think of is Lou singing "SHINYSHINY. SHINYBOOTSOFLEATHER."

lol yeah. lou really has trouble singing a lot of those songs.

My only memory of that 1993 live album is "Linger an-ah-ah-ah-on. Your pale blue eyes."

Never heard it but his guitar playing was pretty good when I saw them.

my byline on a true piece of VU trainspotting ephemera! omg.
http://41.media.tumblr.com/97a74ca2197ef4c7eed45cd12759db34/tumblr_nxckvmRhyL1qzy30io1_1280.png
it's a "newspaper" promo piece for the Loaded box set (including a flexidisc w/ a demo of "rock & roll")

congrats!

Wow, that is so cool!

I would subscribe to a Velvet Underground newspaper, as long as there wasn't a lot of ads.

Congrats btw!

David Fricke, watch out, there's a new kid in town.

haha, thank you. it is quite a thrill.

too cool!

rad!

"You know how people get when they're cornered? Like triangles."

VU trainspotting observation of the day: billy yule's drumming on the live at max's tape is hilarious

Haven't listened in many years but yeah, more or less.

It's really good on the version of Some Kinda Love though.

(Better than Clem Cattini)

That's my brother Doug's brother ... ah forget it.

(lol at your never ending hatred for Clem Cattini. Do you even like "Hurdy Gurdy Man"?)

by "hilarious" i don't even mean "bad" really (though it's sometimes bad). he's pretty entertaining (and seems to be having a fun time).

Seeing James Corden play Clem Cattini in that film about Joe Meek didn't help tbh.

some very cheesy fills in "I'm Waiting for the Man." Not terrible though

I still think that's Bonham on "Hurdy Gurdy Man." It's a better story that way.

I can't stand the drumming on Max's myself, it's so distracting

I like the story just as JPJ told it.
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