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the biggest predictor of a pull/strain is it happening before. this sucks! it happens when squatting, but it's not the lifting erector part, but along the side (part of keeping a lock on the bar, pulling down)

w/o getting too graphic, i have a huge scar on my right side from a surgery i had as a kid. my lat on that side is cut right in half, and, well, it's basically really gnarly looking while working. the disconnected part under the scar is sort of atrophied. it never feels unbalanced during a movement but i guess it is. the strain happens somewhere in there.

i took a week off, and i'm gonna reshuffle the exercises i do to include more chinups, hope i can sw0le up that whole underarm + outer back zone. and it's an excuse to get in more bicep work, so i can fit in with the other ymca patrons young and old

goole, Monday, 12 October 2015 19:35 (eight years ago) link

BFP scales work for some, not for others -- I have an organic cystic thing that throws the result significantly off. It's also important that you be at more or less the same level of hydration when you take measurements, which is harder for some than others.

Three Word Username, Monday, 12 October 2015 20:16 (eight years ago) link

Today I was able to do 3x10x135 deadlifts -- I've read that your deadlift should be more than your squat, but this was the most I've deadlifted so far, and it was not fucking easy. Actually part of what made it hard was just what it did to the skin on my hands and how much I felt it in my wrists. Thinking I might need gloves for my soft hands.

It's super vain, but lately I am kind of psyched to see myself in the mirror straining to do these lifts and just being like "holy shit, I am actually lifting"

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 20:06 (eight years ago) link

mix grip on the deadlifts will help with that a bit

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 20:09 (eight years ago) link

Deadlift is generally more than your squat, but grip/hand strength can limit your deadlift. You will build up callouses.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 20:10 (eight years ago) link

yeah that sounds like what happened to me (not that they were easy otherwise, but my grip was what gave out first). was not aware of mixed grip until carne mentioned, but googled and found this, which is very useful:
http://www.crossfitinvictus.com/blog/when-to-use-mixed-grip-or-double-overhand/

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 20:13 (eight years ago) link

In the interest of full disclosure I don't think my above-mentioned squats were full ass-to-grass. Still working on that. Maybe will take the weight down a little next time and work on form.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 21:15 (eight years ago) link

Some controversy about whether or not a-t-g is ideal for all peeps. Form is more important than depth.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 21:27 (eight years ago) link

Try squatting to a box just below parallel until that is comfortable with good for . then you can work on depth

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 21:50 (eight years ago) link

Form not for

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 21:51 (eight years ago) link

Stay tight keeping engaged don't like sit down just use it as a target

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 21:53 (eight years ago) link

what do you guys do about your exercise routines when you get sick?

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 15 October 2015 01:34 (eight years ago) link

do i LIFT THROUGH THE PAIN

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 15 October 2015 01:35 (eight years ago) link

i am in the same sitch -- tomorrow morning is WEIGHTS and i feel gross and congested

nb the answer is don't do it

jason waterfalls (gbx), Thursday, 15 October 2015 01:48 (eight years ago) link

If I've had fever, vomiting or diarrhea I'll skip. Otherwise I go, but I might do a lighter workout. I've also made a new rule for myself that "I didn't get enough sleep" is not a reason to go unless I pulled an all-nighter or something.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Thursday, 15 October 2015 01:55 (eight years ago) link

feel like physical exertion can def prolong/exacerbate minor illness i usually shut it down unless its just like a cough or w/e

lag∞n, Thursday, 15 October 2015 02:08 (eight years ago) link

I've also made a new rule for myself that "I didn't get enough sleep" is not a reason to go unless I pulled an all-nighter or something.

― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, October 14, 2015 8:55 PM (45 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this rule isn't that great

jason waterfalls (gbx), Thursday, 15 October 2015 02:42 (eight years ago) link

I disagree, but it has more to do with psychology and routine/habit for me than it does with lifting efficacy.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Thursday, 15 October 2015 02:51 (eight years ago) link

Also I might skip certain things or reduce weight on tired days, but the point is I get in there and do something to maintain the habit and avoid the excuse of "I'm tired" becoming routine. This also actually helps motivate me to get more sleep.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Thursday, 15 October 2015 02:55 (eight years ago) link

I do my full routine at the set weights, but am forgiving of myself if I don't get all the reps in or do one fewer set.

Three Word Username, Thursday, 15 October 2015 08:27 (eight years ago) link

That's when I'm sick. When I'm tired, I just push through it and working out usually wakes me up!

Three Word Username, Thursday, 15 October 2015 08:28 (eight years ago) link

i guess i was thinking about it in terms of "on the way to getting sick," not just not sleeping great --- would agree that a routine is vital (i need one!)

jason waterfalls (gbx), Thursday, 15 October 2015 11:24 (eight years ago) link

Some controversy about whether or not a-t-g is ideal for all peeps. Form is more important than depth.

― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Wednesday, October 14, 2015 4:27 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Try squatting to a box just below parallel until that is comfortable with good for . then you can work on depth

― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, October 14, 2015 4:50 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I have always been told I have "short calf muscles," and it used to be hard for me to even keep my heel down. Could this also affect my depth? I've definitely gotten my form much better.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Thursday, 15 October 2015 14:28 (eight years ago) link

If you're on a 3x per week strength workout plan, is there any harm in working in an occasional other type of workout? Some weeks lately I've been able to get an extra workout in and have been doing a total body thing with lighter weights but higher intensity. Wondering there's benefit or if I should just be resting. I try to be conscious of going lightest on whatever muscle group I worked last.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Sunday, 18 October 2015 02:54 (eight years ago) link

As far as I can tell people who are fittest actually do some sort of workout everyday so no I doubt there is any harm.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Sunday, 18 October 2015 04:06 (eight years ago) link

The lift everyday people who improve tend be very careful about working muscle group by muscle group. There is still a full day's rest for the biceps, etc. or they are 'roiding.

Three Word Username, Sunday, 18 October 2015 04:34 (eight years ago) link

ive just been doing cardio on off days

nb i just started my workout regime in the past two months

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Sunday, 18 October 2015 18:10 (eight years ago) link

sick people should rest until they aren't sick imo

lifting or running or whatever are discretionary activities; breathing and eating and sleeping are not - if those three things aren't going so great for you then you should avoid extracurricular exertion of any sort

BRAAAAAAMETHEUS (El Tomboto), Sunday, 18 October 2015 18:42 (eight years ago) link

ya running, yoga, swimming w/e are all great xp

lag∞n, Sunday, 18 October 2015 23:06 (eight years ago) link

i did a yoga class before lifting the other day, was p sweet also the instructor played flute during the end of class chill out sesh

lag∞n, Sunday, 18 October 2015 23:13 (eight years ago) link

need to do more yoga its good

lag∞n, Sunday, 18 October 2015 23:16 (eight years ago) link

confidential to man alive: my favourite way to practice squat form is goblet squats. they are super easy and can be done with any dumbell or kettle bell. they're almost impossible to do wrong as long as you remember to keep your core tight. i'll do them on days where i just don't feel up to 3 sets of heavy weights, it's my way of getting back in touch with the right way to squat.

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 08:44 (eight years ago) link

thx

I did barbell squats last Tuesday, then Friday I decided to include some bodyweight squats in my total-body workout where I really focused on depth and form. Then yesterday when I did my barbell squats I found that I did them much better.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 14:35 (eight years ago) link

I was able to do 3x10x135 again but with more depth, and it was still easier than last time, probably will add a little weight next week.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 14:36 (eight years ago) link

why do u do so many reps bro

lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 15:31 (eight years ago) link

trainer advice? (or u making a joke about the 135?)

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 15:32 (eight years ago) link

I'm basically trying to get rid of a fairly big gut while also building strength, and trainer said 3x10 would be better for burning fat and building "lean muscle." Presumably doing 5x5 or something like that would allow for more weight but lead to more bulk.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 15:34 (eight years ago) link

fat burning is not really a real thing i dont think, most ppl seem to think heavier/fewer reps has greater utility, wldnt worry too much abt bulking up getting bigger is difficult and slow and if you find it happening in a way u dont like u cn always switch up yr routine

lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 15:48 (eight years ago) link

+ feels cool to lift heavy things

lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 15:49 (eight years ago) link

+ getting somewhat bigger is actually p sweet and handsome

lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 15:50 (eight years ago) link

the internet debates on 3x10 vs 4x8 vs 5x5 are fucking dizzying

fwiw though I tend to naturally bulk easily

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 15:54 (eight years ago) link

even if u build muscle easily, i do too, yr not gonna get that big w/o some concerted effort, and if u stop itll go away

lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 15:57 (eight years ago) link

I've been doing the 3x10 strength thing for like 5-6 weeks now though, maybe I will change it up just to see what kind of results I get

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 15:57 (eight years ago) link

wldnt worry too much abt bulking up getting bigger is difficult and slow and if you find it happening in a way u dont like u cn always switch up yr routine

it's always surprising to me how often people won't lift because they dont want to "get too big"--when it's really really really hard to get that big!

ryan, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 18:01 (eight years ago) link

lol ya ppl try extremely hard to get huge

lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 18:07 (eight years ago) link

its like saying i dont want to run cause im afraid i might run a marathon

lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 18:08 (eight years ago) link

"i don't want to run, i'm afriad i'll roast usain bolt, then what do i do?"

xp lol

goole, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 18:08 (eight years ago) link

i lift weights bc i want to get "too big"

clouds, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 18:14 (eight years ago) link

haa xp

lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 18:19 (eight years ago) link

i suspect there's also a little bit of an idea that more reps is more "aerobic" i.e. you're keeping your heartrate up for longer, but if you want that angle, just do actual aerobic exercise for however long imo

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 19:00 (eight years ago) link


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