That's when I'm sick. When I'm tired, I just push through it and working out usually wakes me up!
― Three Word Username, Thursday, 15 October 2015 08:28 (eight years ago) link
i guess i was thinking about it in terms of "on the way to getting sick," not just not sleeping great --- would agree that a routine is vital (i need one!)
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Thursday, 15 October 2015 11:24 (eight years ago) link
Some controversy about whether or not a-t-g is ideal for all peeps. Form is more important than depth.
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Wednesday, October 14, 2015 4:27 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Try squatting to a box just below parallel until that is comfortable with good for . then you can work on depth
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, October 14, 2015 4:50 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I have always been told I have "short calf muscles," and it used to be hard for me to even keep my heel down. Could this also affect my depth? I've definitely gotten my form much better.
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Thursday, 15 October 2015 14:28 (eight years ago) link
If you're on a 3x per week strength workout plan, is there any harm in working in an occasional other type of workout? Some weeks lately I've been able to get an extra workout in and have been doing a total body thing with lighter weights but higher intensity. Wondering there's benefit or if I should just be resting. I try to be conscious of going lightest on whatever muscle group I worked last.
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Sunday, 18 October 2015 02:54 (eight years ago) link
As far as I can tell people who are fittest actually do some sort of workout everyday so no I doubt there is any harm.
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Sunday, 18 October 2015 04:06 (eight years ago) link
The lift everyday people who improve tend be very careful about working muscle group by muscle group. There is still a full day's rest for the biceps, etc. or they are 'roiding.
― Three Word Username, Sunday, 18 October 2015 04:34 (eight years ago) link
ive just been doing cardio on off days
nb i just started my workout regime in the past two months
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Sunday, 18 October 2015 18:10 (eight years ago) link
sick people should rest until they aren't sick imo
lifting or running or whatever are discretionary activities; breathing and eating and sleeping are not - if those three things aren't going so great for you then you should avoid extracurricular exertion of any sort
― BRAAAAAAMETHEUS (El Tomboto), Sunday, 18 October 2015 18:42 (eight years ago) link
ya running, yoga, swimming w/e are all great xp
― lag∞n, Sunday, 18 October 2015 23:06 (eight years ago) link
i did a yoga class before lifting the other day, was p sweet also the instructor played flute during the end of class chill out sesh
― lag∞n, Sunday, 18 October 2015 23:13 (eight years ago) link
need to do more yoga its good
― lag∞n, Sunday, 18 October 2015 23:16 (eight years ago) link
confidential to man alive: my favourite way to practice squat form is goblet squats. they are super easy and can be done with any dumbell or kettle bell. they're almost impossible to do wrong as long as you remember to keep your core tight. i'll do them on days where i just don't feel up to 3 sets of heavy weights, it's my way of getting back in touch with the right way to squat.
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 08:44 (eight years ago) link
thx
I did barbell squats last Tuesday, then Friday I decided to include some bodyweight squats in my total-body workout where I really focused on depth and form. Then yesterday when I did my barbell squats I found that I did them much better.
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 14:35 (eight years ago) link
I was able to do 3x10x135 again but with more depth, and it was still easier than last time, probably will add a little weight next week.
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 14:36 (eight years ago) link
why do u do so many reps bro
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 15:31 (eight years ago) link
trainer advice? (or u making a joke about the 135?)
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 15:32 (eight years ago) link
I'm basically trying to get rid of a fairly big gut while also building strength, and trainer said 3x10 would be better for burning fat and building "lean muscle." Presumably doing 5x5 or something like that would allow for more weight but lead to more bulk.
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 15:34 (eight years ago) link
fat burning is not really a real thing i dont think, most ppl seem to think heavier/fewer reps has greater utility, wldnt worry too much abt bulking up getting bigger is difficult and slow and if you find it happening in a way u dont like u cn always switch up yr routine
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 15:48 (eight years ago) link
+ feels cool to lift heavy things
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 15:49 (eight years ago) link
+ getting somewhat bigger is actually p sweet and handsome
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 15:50 (eight years ago) link
the internet debates on 3x10 vs 4x8 vs 5x5 are fucking dizzying
fwiw though I tend to naturally bulk easily
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 15:54 (eight years ago) link
even if u build muscle easily, i do too, yr not gonna get that big w/o some concerted effort, and if u stop itll go away
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 15:57 (eight years ago) link
I've been doing the 3x10 strength thing for like 5-6 weeks now though, maybe I will change it up just to see what kind of results I get
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 15:57 (eight years ago) link
wldnt worry too much abt bulking up getting bigger is difficult and slow and if you find it happening in a way u dont like u cn always switch up yr routine
it's always surprising to me how often people won't lift because they dont want to "get too big"--when it's really really really hard to get that big!
― ryan, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 18:01 (eight years ago) link
lol ya ppl try extremely hard to get huge
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 18:07 (eight years ago) link
its like saying i dont want to run cause im afraid i might run a marathon
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 18:08 (eight years ago) link
"i don't want to run, i'm afriad i'll roast usain bolt, then what do i do?"
xp lol
― goole, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 18:08 (eight years ago) link
i lift weights bc i want to get "too big"
― clouds, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 18:14 (eight years ago) link
haa xp
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 18:19 (eight years ago) link
i suspect there's also a little bit of an idea that more reps is more "aerobic" i.e. you're keeping your heartrate up for longer, but if you want that angle, just do actual aerobic exercise for however long imo
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 19:00 (eight years ago) link
reading thru the totally-not-broscience it seems like the concept of "volume" is in vogue ie your total reps x weight. like 3x5 at something heavy vs 4x6 at something a little lighter or a few sets of 3 at something close to your max... might not make that much difference (over some threshhold of heaviness-for-you of course). the idea is to get to, and grind through, the hard reps. if the fifth rep isn't hard, then do a couple more! or do it heavier so rep 5 *is* hard. up to you, champ.
― goole, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 19:18 (eight years ago) link
When I say "too big" I don't mean like a pro body builder who can't lift his arms over his head, I just mean I don't want to look like one of those stocky, turtle-shell-body bros I see at the gym. And with my tendency to have a thick layer of fat to begin with (on top of building muscle easily), I feel like I could wind up there if I lifted too heavy.
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 19:20 (eight years ago) link
Whatever, progress has been good so far, maybe I'll change it up at some point.
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 19:21 (eight years ago) link
and there's reams of sketchy webarticles to read on the differences between hypertrophy vs work capacity, fast vs slow etc etc etc i get off the boat pretty quick around there
― goole, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 19:22 (eight years ago) link
agree with goon on this . I stick to moderately low reps and heavy weight. Just make sure you warm up sufficiently and you're good. Dudes that bulk up are eating have to eat like 10,000 calories a day
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 19:35 (eight years ago) link
dont know that there really is such a thing as "lean" muscle btw
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 19:37 (eight years ago) link
was it this thread that had all that shit abt the guy advising u to pour a bottle of olive oil over a whole pizza then eat it lmao brutal
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 19:38 (eight years ago) link
i like doing a week or two of 10-12 after doing 6-8 for a while just because, like, mixing things up is interesting, and i like the shift in intensity, it's a little different vibe and since i also tend to store fat it feels good to fire up my heart rate a little more than usual in a lifting sesh.
― mattresslessness, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 19:54 (eight years ago) link
i want to try sets of 20 squats some time but .. do i really? yikes.
― mattresslessness, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 20:03 (eight years ago) link
yeah on a rare occasion i will do a 30 rep set of squats at 60% of 1rm just for kicks. This will get you super sore the next day but i don't know of any specific benefits of that rep scheme though
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 20:11 (eight years ago) link
My trainer, a competitive body builder, switched me to 3 or 4 sets of 15 then 12 then 10 etc., depending on exercise and muscle group. It has made a huge difference.
― Three Word Username, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 20:12 (eight years ago) link
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, October 21, 2015 2:37 PM (45 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
there isn't
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 20:25 (eight years ago) link
One other slight benefit of 3x10 vs 5x5 is it takes less time, I would guess about 3 mins less per exercise. This matters to me because I workout in the middle of the work day so saving 15 mins makes a difference to me.
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 20:30 (eight years ago) link
3x5 even quicker :D
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 20:37 (eight years ago) link
honestly though if what you're doing works for you i don't see any reason to much changes. The most important thing imo is consistency. xp
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 20:38 (eight years ago) link
word
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 20:39 (eight years ago) link
1x3 imo jk
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 20:39 (eight years ago) link
i consistently get like 6 hrs of sleep which is seriously hampering my sw0leg0alz
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 20:40 (eight years ago) link
gotta get that rest bro
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 20:40 (eight years ago) link
I've been sleeping 7-8 hrs a night consistently for the first time in years, in part because the lifting makes me tired and in part because the lifting makes me want more sleep to get more sw0le
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 20:42 (eight years ago) link