Star Wars 7 shit talk

i am going to watch this in a movie theater

I'm gonna call it right now - the biggest problem with this movie will be the filler. A pronlem shared by certain Star Wars remakes and epic films like The Hobbit part 3.

How about issue number one being, I don't know, lack of a protagonist?

A hot mess

it cant help feel melancholy like now the other movies are just some other things that happened. all those times i dreamed about the future or past of the Star Wars universe as a kid are being overwritten by these official sequels and prequels. maybe han saying "It all happened" is a little too on the nose for me.

its not going to live up to the hype but will do a lot of things technically right and people will love it cos at least its not the godawful sequels. the main bad guy's voice in this trailer is pretty rough, i hope it sounds better in the movie.

def gon be a ton of filler and fan service

oh please

btw guys Star Wars Rebels is still pretty joyful

― μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 19 October 2015 23:11 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Rewatched Genndy Tartakovsky's Clone Wars cartoons last week, joy is a pretty big component there too.

If there was going to be a ton of fan service, wouldn't they have, y'know, stuck some in a trailer?

The tone def. seems smart - one of the best aspects of the original series was finding out all this forgotten stuff along with Luke, seeing him working up his skills so that when in the third he can actually deflect laser blasts it's all kinds of awesome. Vs "So these two Jedi (out of hundreds) walk into a trade negotiation" - a definite case of "fans are convinced that they want to see something that they don't actually want to see".

How about issue number one being, I don't know, lack of a protagonist?

― calstars, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 04:20 (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

That's Greek for white dude, right?

based on his conspicuous absence i'm guessing luke is going to get killed or turn evil

i hope not tho, we need an old force sage

Enjoyed the 0.3 seconds of Carrie Fisher. Luke is presumably the gloved figure touching R2 in that one shot. This is going to run about 165 minutes.

Love Han Solo going from "ancient weapons and hokey religions" to "the dark side, the Jedi, it's all true."

Ya didn't figure out by the end of the first movie that his "arc" was Bogey in Casablanca, huh?

Luke won't turn evil unless Harper Lee did some script doctoring

also wtf is that unintelligible whisper that ends the v/o?

yeah the hand is such a tease tho. mb they're building up to luke's entrance, but the former main character not showing up properly is an Interesting Choice at least

Not to get all Zapruder Film here but are there clues that Luke is even going to be in this? Otherwise, he's in the next movie.

Clue is Mark Hamill's name on the credits?

we heard his voice. who scavenged vader's helmet from the funeral pyre? seems like a strange thing for luke to do

OK! (you can guess how much I've been paying attention to this)

No more revealing than the first trailer - doesn't seem to delve a little deeper into what the film's actually about. Maybe this is good? IDK

who scavenged vader's helmet from the funeral pyre?

assuming Kylo Ren does this and the first trailer shows him on Endor (about to chop up some Ewoks with his fancy sabre)

This is going to run about 165 minutes.

I read 135 mins somewhere. Which is still far too long obv.

i wonder if we'll actually see adam driver's face. would be one way to get around him being pretty goofy looking for an evil villain dude.

is Luke dead and that's just his disembodied voice in the other trailer? maybe he 'appears' as per Ben in Jedi/Empire.

remove your 3D glasses, Finn... use the force

not a chance Luke died offscreen

Luke will show up in the last 10 minutes, just when it seems all is lost. He'll play a larger role in the next film.

Ya didn't figure out by the end of the first movie that his "arc" was Bogey in Casablanca, huh

"I came to Tatooine for the waters."

"I came to Tatooine for the waters moisture vaporators."

The first few times I watched this, I had mistaken Poe Dameron for Luke at about 1:02. A very "noooooo" moment.

^

loved the trailer. not so keen on the alternative poster though

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/12087994_10156165975880367_702142227212999483_n.jpg?oh=c7edc72995088576470d2f926d22c4a7&oe=5685F3C6

Maybe I need to see the trailer on a bigger screen, but I'm somehow less enthused after watching it? I'm sure (I hope) the movie isn't as po-faced as the new trailer makes it seem. It felt a lot less Star Wars-y than the first trailer.

looks like third weekend discount matinee for me, and i feel like shit about goin that far

http://uproxx.com/gammasquad/2015/10/star-wars-the-force-awakens-trailer-daisy-ridley-john-boyega-react/2/

Bigger! Louder! Faster! More emotion! More drama! More serious! Less fun!

I'm sure my kids (who I think have just seen the first Star Wars) will want to see this, but I'm concerned half this movie will be like the time traveling Spock scene in JJ's Trek reboot.

The mournful piano motif in the trailer - is that Williams? Because it does not sound like his thing.

looks like a hobbit movie

http://i.imgur.com/fDRlZCr.jpg

Accepting Han and Leia are old and have kids is inheritably less Star Wars-y. Just pray that 'we are family' isn't a main theme.

I was most excited by the music in the trailer because it didnt (as far as I can tell) repeat an old motif. Otherwise it's just a teaser and I dont know why anyone would expect anything more.

You are all bearing in mind that the original series started with space nazis blowing their way into a shuttle, killing most of the defenders and torturing the shit out of one of our heroes, right?

Just pray that 'we are family' isn't a main theme.

I read this wrong and imagined John Williams sprinkling his score with an occasional Sister Sledge motif.

I was most excited by the music in the trailer because it didnt (as far as I can tell) repeat an old motif.

Han and Leia's love theme is in there

Maybe I need to see the trailer on a bigger screen, but I'm somehow less enthused after watching it? I'm sure (I hope) the movie isn't as po-faced as the new trailer makes it seem. It felt a lot less Star Wars-y than the first trailer.

― Don't Call Me A Lunkhead, You Dingbat! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, October 20, 2015 7:43 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think I've come to terms with the fact that no one in 2015 is going to be able to make a literal Episode VII, a pure continuation of the original trilogy, let alone a pure continuation of the original trilogy as perceived and absorbed by my 7-year-old self in spite of my now being 35. This looks faithful enough to the aesthetic and spirit of the original that I'll probably be happy with it.

Maybe I need to see the trailer on a bigger screen, but I'm somehow less enthused after watching it? I'm sure (I hope) the movie isn't as po-faced as the new trailer makes it seem. It felt a lot less Star Wars-y than the first trailer.

When Star Wars in general tries to not be po-faced, we end up with things like Ewoks and Jar-Jar.

who scavenged vader's helmet from the funeral pyre?

some comic con fucks

xpost It's a tightrope walk, for sure.

At any rate, my expectations are super low (thanks, George) so I'm sure it'll be entertaining and fine if not necessarily in the ballpark of what I might have prefered.

all i'm asking for is avengers 1 levels of enjoyment

Bigger! Louder! Faster! More emotion! More drama! More serious! Less fun!

Eh? I think it looks plenty fun.

Crazy chase through scuttled Star Destroyer is crazy fun. btw, skip my posts if you don't want new-canon nerdery for the next couple months. Sorry all, I've regressed to the mh of 1998.

It looks like, with the exception of showing the villains off in quick shots, the framing of the trailer is "lonely girl, thinking 'bout things on a desert planet, wishing she could get offworld," leading to her meeting the pilot of a downed TIE fighter, and then they meet Han Solo, who tells them all the rumors about how the war really shook out a few decades ago being true.

The story of the Empire most people knew, especially those away from the core worlds, was that he swept away corruption from within the Republic and instituted strong military rule to bring about a better life for those in the galaxy. The flip side of that is that a number of people knew it was on the back of slaves, suppression of free speech, and a ruthless military with weapons that could wipe out planets.

The original trilogy is a very family-based, remnants of the Jedi story that most people wouldn't know. I'd imagine outside of Luke's immediate friends and family, few people knew that he was on the second death star, let alone that Darth Vader was his father. The rebellion in the galaxy at large was the story of a group of people who believed in the vision of the Republic taking down a fascist state. Sure, there were rumors about the Emperor and Vader being creatures of the force, about the rebel alliance having a jedi on their side, but framing the entire conflict as a sith/jedi thing is the story for the moviegoers, not the viewpoint of the characters.

So Han saying that yes, these crazy rumors were true, that they had the force on their side, is pretty exciting for a kid who was born long after all these events.

just watched the original's trailer again to see if it gave any hint of humor in it. it didn't nor any sense of plot which was kinda surprising. i can understand them revealing virtually nothing about the plot w/ the new one, i can appreciate it even. the original's trailer is definitely bigger! louder! though, plus heavy playing up of romance (they really play up the pitch 'the story of a boy, a girl, and a universe', which has generally been forgotten). there's virtually no dialogue in the original (i think threepio talks most and that's just during a 'this movie's got robots y'all' part), just a whole lot of lasers blasting and ships flying and explosions. they play up the swinging on the rope scene big, seeing the star wars trailer on tv is one of my first memories and that specifically is what gripped me, it was a really big part of the iconography at the time - incorporated into the death star toy, a callback in rotj - but it seems to have kinda faded. i posted this elsewhere but i think the thing i take most comfort in is how much isn't 'star warsy' here, the kinds of shots you never saw in the others, etc. if they're going to make god knows how many more of these i'd like directors to be able to have some fun in how they tell the story, the most disappointing thing about the marvel movies for me is how they all basically look the same.