Doctor Who: Classic or Dud?

obv I would do this

And me.

+1

As long as you call it Marco Pol(l)o

LogoPOLLis or gtfo

or maybe The Krower of Poll

I would do this.

The Greatest Poll in the Galaxy? obv you would need to record yourself doing the opening rap.

I would vote BUT so many stories would lead to a very split vote

I've made an executive decision, if I actually do this roll out thread will be titled 'reverse the POLLarity of the neutron flow', pls bear in mind if you are committing yourself xp

I heard it was Davros + the Master.

― Matt DC, Tuesday, November 27, 2007 4:37 PM

IN BED

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guys, no

― HI DERE, Tuesday, November 27, 2007 4:49 PM

I would vote BUT so many stories would lead to a very split vote

yeah I agree, which is why I was thinking it would only be worth doing if a fair number of ppl would send ballots, otherwise most of the top 40 (or whatever) would be stories that got one vote each. there does seem to be more interest than I'd thought though, and there are a few more posters who might vote as well (cosmic slop? aldo? snoball? chap?)

don't want it to seem like I'm pestering people to commit to taking part btw, just wanted to get a sense if it was worth asking for ballots

Let's start arguing now.

Shada: Y/N?

Trial Of A Timelord: one story or four? (Or five?)

An Unearthly Child is a ONE EPISODE STORY. But are the next three "The Tribe Of Gum" or "100,000 BC"?

come on, no one's voting for the next three.

I like the idea of a ballot made up entirely of, say, Shada, A Fix with Sontarans, Dimensions in Time, Search Out Space, those adverts for Life Insurance Tom Baker did 'in character' etc

The Elite ad
Those 90s VHS-only things featuring Sontarans and actors from Who, but nobody mentions Dr Who
THE MOVIE
The unused stories commissioned by Andrew Cartmel from well known sci-fi authors
Doctor Eyes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stranger_(video_series)

this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FMy5Fc2ZII

(that's The Curse Of Fenric being reenacted by some 14 years old in 1993, for anyone who hasn't already seen it)

parts 2 + 4 are also on youtube, but part 1 has apparently been blocked on the instruction of BBC Worldwide? spoilsports

(since you asked, yes, I'll vote.)

Prime Computer ads ftw.

I'd vote!

Cartmel is talking at my local library in a couple weeks. About comics.

Yeah I'd be keen for this, would give me a good excuse to catch up with some of the classics I've never seen.

come on, no one's voting for the next three.

this is exactly why you separate them! but which title do you give them?

ok, I think I'm going to give this a go, but maybe put the deadline for ballots quite a way in the future to try and get as many as possible? (but please, no one feel obligated to vote just because they've expressed an interest on this thread, I don't want it to seem like I'm pressuring people)

I was thinking asking people to vote for between 1 and 20 stories each, with their first place story getting 20 points, second placed story getting 19 etc, and no unweighted ballots.

does this all seem to make sense? I've never run a poll before so please tell me if I have made any rookie errors

If you count 'An Unearthly Child' and the following three episodes about cavemen as two different stories, count 'Trial of a Timelord' as four separate stories and include 'Shada' that leaves you with 160 stories in total, I think? are there any others where there is a dispute about how to count them?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Doctor_Who_serials

Are you doing Nu Who as well? The story boundaries can be a bit hazier there - eg is Utopia distinct from sound of drums/last of the time lords?

I was thinking of just doing the 1963-89 series, idk how people feel about that?

I'm cool with that, was just wondering really. Might be fairer as they're such different beasts.

I've seen hardly any Nu-Who, so I'd prefer just the 1963-89 series, thanks.

yeah, prefer classic-only, and a la music polls with best album votes, might be fun to do best doctor.

I was thinking of favourite doctor, favourite companion and worst story as optional side polls?

Best villain?

^^^

hahaha, worst story would be very fun

probably worth doing in 2016 while we've got a year or so of no new Who to discuss

Doctor Who original series (1963-89) ballot poll voting thread

but maybe put the deadline for ballots quite a way in the future to try and get as many as possible?

oh well

I put a provisional closing date for ballots of 24th November 2015 on the other thread, but if people would rather extend this to next year that's fine by me! idk when would be best- the ilm end of year polling stuff takes place throughout jan and feb I think (?), so maybe put the closing date for ballots some time after that? but I'm ok to do it whenever is best for people in general, really

(nb people are are fine to send their ballots to me now if they want to, and I'll hold on to them until the closing date)

I've watched all of the nu series, mostly over the last two years. Now I'm looking for what to watch in the classic series.

I started watching the classic series chronologically and that wasn't a good idea. I got to The Sensorites -- what a boring one. The premise is OK but then the last three episodes could have been done in the third act of a nu who episode.

Is this a generally good list? http://rkuykendall.com/articles/classic-who-recommendations/ It looks like some are recommended for continuity instead of quality. The Daleks had some great moments but also some whole episodes where not much happens. It also had the Doctor defeating Daleks with rugs.

bumping for abanana, and pointing to me & aldo's posts here: Dr Who: the return!

well, xpost

nah, that's a dumb list with a silly methodology. check out the recommended Hartnells and then check back for recommended Troughtons imo. Jumping around from Doctor to Doctor is a fine way to do it, but since you've started chronologically it could be really fun to keep coming forward but only touching high points!

(for people in the uk, they are showing old series on the horror channel on freeview at about 3 in the afternoon, 2 a day, weekdays, repeated in the evening. they probably have 20 different series spanning all the original doctors.)

this isn't all of them but...

http://www.horrorchannel.co.uk/shows.php?letter=D&subgenre=sci-fi

To continue the previous conversation:

Yes, The Daleks does drag a little (the Thals are exceptionally stupid and the plot is explained several times) but the bits it gets right (The Doctor's emptying of the fluid link, the sheer alienness of the city) are among the highlights of the entire venture.

The Rescue is really quite poor - the plot is incoherent, Vicki is quite ridiculous and behaves in a different way to in all her other stories and Sandy might be the worst effect in the whole Hartnell era. Yes, even the Fungoid.

The Romans is straight up great and probably has the best Ian/Barbara scenes of any story. There, I said it.

I like The Gunfighters a lot too, it has an undeserved reputation.

across threads, then, abanana's Hartnell suggestions are, in order - starting with the next three serials from where you're up to!):

The Reign Of Terror (maybe - missing episodes have been animated on DVD)
Planet Of Giants
The Dalek Invasion Of Earth

The Romans

[The Web Planet, if you want to see possibly the oddest Who TV story ever]

as much of The Space Museum as you enjoy

The Time Meddler

The Ark

The Gunfighters

and for historical / continuity interest, at least, The Tenth Planet. The final episode has been animated for DVD, there was an offical reconstruction on the VHS which you can find on internets, and there are possibly-better fan recons as well.

Yeah, I set my TiVo to record 'all Doctor Who' figuring it'd pick up the new series and occasional rebroadcasts, and then Horror got the contract and now I have 230+ episodes waiting for me to work my way through (my old-Who knowledge is very spotty).

I've found it interesting that a lot of the old stuff (The Daleks / Seeds of Death are the two I was thinking of) works as basically radio plays, things I don't have to be watching the screen for (or paying that much attention to - frequently if there's something 'subtle' happening onscreen you can tell because they've stopped the dialogue) and as noted not fast paced either, but when I hit The Daemons, it is so stuffed with texture I had to give it my full attention.