The long instrumental interlude in "Memorial" spoils that track for me.
That's the best part, IMO!
― Turrican, Wednesday, 28 October 2015 21:26 (eight years ago) link
what really kills me about "Memorial" is that when she finally comes back in for that last chorus, it's muted, not celebratory - fits the lyric, but demonstrates considerable restraint.
― the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Wednesday, 28 October 2015 21:29 (eight years ago) link
Harmonically it's so different from anything Mozart would have written that it's impossible to tell if that was intentional or not but I'm leaning towards no. A lot of the record feels soundtracky to me and the general melodramatic sweep of the music emphasises that.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 28 October 2015 22:03 (eight years ago) link
koko remains the worst gig venue in london though― lex pretend, Wednesday, October 28, 2015 8:08 AM (14 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― lex pretend, Wednesday, October 28, 2015 8:08 AM (14 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
crap venue was p much the reason I didn't come down to London to see the show
glad/sad to hear it was good though
― pep ponk aliyev (seandalai), Wednesday, 28 October 2015 22:56 (eight years ago) link
I've listened to this album, like, 5 times now. And though I think it's a good, solid, enjoyable album, I am just not hearing what is so completely special about it that you all consider it AOTY?
― Dröhn Rock (Branwell with an N), Thursday, 29 October 2015 09:49 (eight years ago) link
Good sold-out show in Manchester last night, in too small a venue. Fire alarm went off after a couple of songs, which broke things up a bit and seemed to energise Susanne and the band when they came back. Accelerate into Fade Away stupendous, and yeah Insects incredible live. Feels a bit churlish to complain, but they only played 9 songs, and were all done in 50 minutes so the shortest gig I've seen in probably 10 years.
― that mustardless plate (Bill A), Thursday, 29 October 2015 10:07 (eight years ago) link
And though I think it's a good, solid, enjoyable album, I am just not hearing what is so completely special about it that you all consider it AOTY?
I don't think this is anywhere near the album of the year, but I sort of get why people are connecting with it. Even if you exclude the middle section of Memorial, the melodic and harmonic range of a lot of these songs is much broader than in a lot of current pop, or indie-pop, Scandi or otherwise. A lot more care has gone into the arrangements, and it's what gives it the classicist edge that Ithappens refers to upthread (and what a lot of consciously retro/revivalist acts tend to get wrong). A lot of these songs feel like slowed down Abba ballads or tearjerker musical numbers or something, coupled with that soundtracky windswept feel.
I like it a lot more than I did 48hrs ago, although I really dislike Accelerate and wish she'd avoid her lower register.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 29 October 2015 11:49 (eight years ago) link
Accelerate and Fade Away go so well together. That transition and Slowly (especially the key change, which feels like an album climax to me) are the moments I like most.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDkO0LuMU08
― jmm, Thursday, 29 October 2015 14:08 (eight years ago) link
Pretty late to the party, but this is good. Some tracks remind me of School of Seven Bells, e.g. Fade Away.
― Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 29 October 2015 14:17 (eight years ago) link
Y'know, I listened to this album this morning, then I put the new Julia Holter on. And after seeing Chewie write that, I queued that song, and in the context of coming up between two Julia Holter tracks, it just sounds like a toy.
― Dröhn Rock (Branwell with an N), Thursday, 29 October 2015 14:30 (eight years ago) link
'Accelerate' rules, and feels so damn perfect coming after 'Darlings' - the more I listen to this record, the more I realise how perfectly sequenced the whole thing is, not to mention I can't name one song on this record that I dislike, and that's before we even get to how this record makes me feel.
― Turrican, Thursday, 29 October 2015 18:08 (eight years ago) link
yeah the koko gig was great, i'd heard that she doesn't have a great deal of stage presence but i dunno what those people are on about. in a koko miracle i even had an okay line of sight for the most part, despite some guy six inches taller than me deciding that a good spot to stand would be immediately in front of me, sure why not.
― Merdeyeux, Thursday, 29 October 2015 18:16 (eight years ago) link
aaah i didn't know you'd be there, i was p much by myself because i couldn't even give away my +1 (though i had to go up on the balcony in the end anyway)
"accelerate" is amazing, yeah - one thing i love about this is how she piles more and more on what are already pretty perfect pop songs - the organ solo obv, but when it comes back with the beat??? and then the double vocal on "delirious", and the crashing drums, and the key change at the end of "slowly"...
actually, being above the crowd was incredible, you could FEEL the energy rising every time a particularly anthemic bit came up
― lex pretend, Thursday, 29 October 2015 19:30 (eight years ago) link
I saw her at a festival and was pretty disappointed, but I can see she'd be great somewhere cramped and dark where people are actually listening, not picnicking.
― Leonard Pine, Thursday, 29 October 2015 20:18 (eight years ago) link
Even if you exclude the middle section of Memorial, the melodic and harmonic range of a lot of these songs is much broader than in a lot of current pop, or indie-pop, Scandi or otherwise. A lot more care has gone into the arrangements, and it's what gives it the classicist edge that Ithappens refers to upthread (and what a lot of consciously retro/revivalist acts tend to get wrong).
This is key imo. "Slowly" is better than every Sally Shapiro song.
― pep ponk aliyev (seandalai), Thursday, 29 October 2015 22:10 (eight years ago) link
I've typed about it already but this album is a miracle of synthesis, a perfect hybridization of a big pop album and chamber music, of high-gloss production and single-origin auteurism (I make no secret of my enjoyment of authenticity and it rules to hear an album as wonderfully recorded and arranged as this come nearly-entirely from one woman's mind and hands), the record is stylistically diverse without feeling like it's playing tourist, I love every song except "Insects", she's the best melody-writer I can think of, I love her lyrics, love her previous records, don't 100% love her live show (her band was really loose when I saw her). I even love the middle section of Memorial, idk, yeah it's Mozart pastiche but any pastiche whether it's Mozart or Varese is still pastiche
― got a long list of ilxors (fgti), Thursday, 29 October 2015 23:26 (eight years ago) link
xp "Slowly" is all about the extraordinary coda. Jamie xx should give her a call and demand tutelage in steel drums.
― carly bae jepsen (monotony), Thursday, 29 October 2015 23:26 (eight years ago) link
I think this album is, in general, tremendous, but I admit I occasionally skip "Silencer" and "Trust Me".
― carly bae jepsen (monotony), Thursday, 29 October 2015 23:29 (eight years ago) link
I know they have fans around here but my skippers are "Accelerate" and "Insects".
― pep ponk aliyev (seandalai), Friday, 30 October 2015 00:01 (eight years ago) link
She was amazing in Leeds tonight, short and sweet but that's how I like a gig. Only disappointment was no 'Slowly'. Her voice hits my sweet spot. I am aware I have used the word 'sweet' twice there.
― ewar woowar (or something), Friday, 30 October 2015 00:03 (eight years ago) link
Honestly I think this might be one of those cases where ILX Hype (and not just ILX, I mean I read some Guardian review that was comparing her to Bach meets Throbbing Gristle or something, like... mate. Have you ever actually *heard* Throbbing Gristle?) has just destroyed my potential enjoyment of a thing. My expectations have just been built up too high, and everyone's praising it to the heavens, so I'm expecting the Most Amazing Record Of All Time. And it's not, it's just a nice example of Stuff I Generally Like, but the disappointment that it does not attain MOST! AMAZING! THING! status is a bit of a downer, whereas if I'd encountered it on its own terms with no expectations, I would have been pleasantly surprised, rather than disappointed.
― Dröhn Rock (Branwell with an N), Friday, 30 October 2015 10:52 (eight years ago) link
I wish it got more hype so I could read more takes on it. Outside of ilxor I mean.
― abcfsk, Friday, 30 October 2015 11:47 (eight years ago) link
yeah i literally couldn't even give away a +1 for this, no one was interested
a high proportion of people who've heard it are very rapturous but it's still a small number (relative to bigger crit-faves like grimes, who's sort of inescapable on twitter this week), and radio won't touch her at all apparently
― lex pretend, Friday, 30 October 2015 11:51 (eight years ago) link
tho i admit that the Best Album Ever talk/expectations didn't do my first few listens any good
― lex pretend, Friday, 30 October 2015 11:52 (eight years ago) link
Goth ABBAWhat a great phraseMust check this out
― Comme Si, Kamasi (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 October 2015 11:54 (eight years ago) link
"insects" is the best track on the album, what
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Friday, 30 October 2015 14:12 (eight years ago) link
yeah "insects" is incredible, the production is totally wild
― lex pretend, Friday, 30 October 2015 14:18 (eight years ago) link
'insects' sort of reminds me of bjork's 'pluto'
― donna rouge, Friday, 30 October 2015 15:50 (eight years ago) link
or something off to venus and back
― lex pretend, Friday, 30 October 2015 16:52 (eight years ago) link
i've been obsessed with "trust me" lately
― j. winters (josh), Friday, 30 October 2015 17:40 (eight years ago) link
'Insects' is absolutely amazing, and I don't understand why one would wanna skip 'Accelerate' to get to 'Fade Away'... those tracks are joined together so seamlessly that I often think of them as one thing.
― Turrican, Friday, 30 October 2015 18:12 (eight years ago) link
ts: the accelerate => fade away transition vs the memorial => delirious transition
― lex pretend, Friday, 30 October 2015 18:14 (eight years ago) link
(a: memorial/delirious)
yeah me too
― got a long list of ilxors (fgti), Friday, 30 October 2015 18:15 (eight years ago) link
TG meets ABBA is a lofty and weird claim for sure
― got a long list of ilxors (fgti), Friday, 30 October 2015 18:16 (eight years ago) link
xpost:
Yeah, 'Memorial' -> 'Delirious' definitely the correct answer!
― Turrican, Friday, 30 October 2015 18:29 (eight years ago) link
Delirious is so fucking good.
― Matt DC, Friday, 30 October 2015 18:37 (eight years ago) link
I keep thinking you're talking about the Christian band Deliriou5
― kinder, Friday, 30 October 2015 19:19 (eight years ago) link
http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=18731
katherine, Alfred et al <3
― etc, Saturday, 14 November 2015 10:30 (eight years ago) link
AND JOSHYWINTY
― j. winters (josh), Sunday, 15 November 2015 05:10 (eight years ago) link
so I just discovered this
apologies lex, you didn't want to hear this, but I. am. on. BOARD!
― avant-garde, sissy bounce, zombie rave, aquacrunk, warlock, oceangrunge, (imago), Friday, 27 November 2015 01:33 (eight years ago) link
hell yeah!
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Friday, 27 November 2015 05:38 (eight years ago) link
it's all about 'accelerate' -> 'fade away' for me
― KevRus, Friday, 27 November 2015 06:17 (eight years ago) link
everyone saying that 'silencer' is a skipper is mad. mad!
― avant-garde, sissy bounce, zombie rave, aquacrunk, warlock, oceangrunge, (imago), Friday, 27 November 2015 10:30 (eight years ago) link
'Silencer' is amazing - 'Trust Me' is the one I most regularly feel the urge to skip.
― Matt DC, Friday, 27 November 2015 10:35 (eight years ago) link
yeah that is literally the only song on the album that doesn't really grab me
these songs are both bold and intricate
― avant-garde, sissy bounce, zombie rave, aquacrunk, warlock, oceangrunge, (imago), Friday, 27 November 2015 10:44 (eight years ago) link
Had this album hanging around on my HD for months but decided to give it a proper listen the other night. It's proper good innit?
― canoon fooder (dog latin), Friday, 27 November 2015 14:49 (eight years ago) link
I like it a lot, and I thank The Singles Jukebox for pushing "Accelerate" down my gullet.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 27 November 2015 14:53 (eight years ago) link
i like the fact that 'slowly' seems to improve with every listen for me
― nxd, Friday, 27 November 2015 14:56 (eight years ago) link
I had somehow missed this album entirely until finding this thread and then subsequently listening to (and then immediately purchasing) an extremely rewarding record; so once again I say thank u based ILX for turning me on to an album I like a whole lot. very heartened to see how the general consensus is that everyone who seems to have liked this album upon first contact as much as I did only liked it more over time, which is a Very Good Sign.
― grinding like a jolly elf (jamescobo), Sunday, 3 January 2016 06:50 (eight years ago) link