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er didn't mean to drop shoulders and chest there

losing fat around the truck is, afaict, the absolute hardest thing to do. and there's 1m diff answers how to do it too.

lifting weights really only does one thing: makes you stronger. which is really useful for doing other stuff, but is not really related to fat loss at all.

one thing people do say is that having more muscle mass is "good" for fat loss because building and maintaining muscle is some kind of passive energy sink for your metabolism.

goole, Monday, 2 November 2015 16:15 (eight years ago) link

ps i'm v much enjoying my new lift 2x + run 2x/wk plan. it is great.

there is a certain 'i wanna be 70s big' sw0lebro disdain for cardio out there but i think the CW might be shifting; ppl talk about increasing 'work capacity' as a measure of strength, which includes cardio strength. you can't grind out those last reps if you're tired

goole, Monday, 2 November 2015 16:19 (eight years ago) link

ps i'm v much enjoying my new lift 2x + run 2x/wk plan. it is great.

niice, this is what i do too

lag∞n, Monday, 2 November 2015 16:35 (eight years ago) link

i went to the gym

#amazing #babies #touching (harbl), Monday, 2 November 2015 22:04 (eight years ago) link

HI FIVE ME TOO :)

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Monday, 2 November 2015 22:06 (eight years ago) link

I did deadlifts just slightly over my bodyweight today which was cool. I did 5x5. Think I could have hit more reps but I didn't want to lose form, really paranoid about injury lately.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Monday, 2 November 2015 22:07 (eight years ago) link

5 is a great number of deadlifts to do. you can do more weight and fewer sets in a week. i didn't deadlift very much today. i have a cold and my notebook made me realize i just took A LOT of time off. but it's funny how fast you can increase deadlifts. i love to deadlift!

#amazing #babies #touching (harbl), Monday, 2 November 2015 22:09 (eight years ago) link

Back days are still tough for me because my forearms/grip tends to get tired before everything else and my hands are still a little soft, so e.g. if I do deadlifts and then pulldowns and rows, the pulldowns and rows suffer because of my hands hurting and my grip being weakened.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Monday, 2 November 2015 22:10 (eight years ago) link

i do deadlifts last always because yeah it's hard to do anything after them and mentally thinking i am going to do something else after this makes me not as good at them. the only thing i would do after them is overhead presses because my overhead press is pretty small. i don't split up body parts though.

#amazing #babies #touching (harbl), Monday, 2 November 2015 22:14 (eight years ago) link

yeah I start with my compound lift each day - deadlift on back day, squats on leg day, bench or incline bench on chest (I switch only because these two are always being hogged and I take whatever is open first). Occasionally I do my weighted lunges first when the squat rack is also being hogged but it's a little scary to do barbell squats when my legs already feel worked.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Monday, 2 November 2015 22:19 (eight years ago) link

one thing that sticks in my head as somewhat true that i heard from a trainer / gym owner who seemed to know what he was talking about but was otherwise a derp is that "the bod" is 30% exercise, 70% diet. which is why it's hard to build muscle and lose fat at the same time since one generally needs a calorie surplus and the other generally needs a calorie deficit.

it is a total pain in the ass, but writing down what you eat for a few days can be illuminating. the initial work of changing your diet sucks because it means changing a few lifestyle choices as well, like making a lot of "clean" food for yourself at home or buying chicken breasts and quinoa salad from whole foods and not eating out, but it gets easier as your habits form and the looks your significant other gives you change from "you're crazy" to "oh you're doing that healthy thing you're committed to" and pretty soon you've lost 2 waist inches. night snacks and just pigging out on kind-of-ok stuff like milk or um cliff bars were a few of my problems.

mattresslessness, Monday, 2 November 2015 22:40 (eight years ago) link

yeah calories arent really "real" but its def educational to count them for a while

lag∞n, Monday, 2 November 2015 22:56 (eight years ago) link

they aren't real?

I know when that Ott line zings (Spottie), Monday, 2 November 2015 23:00 (eight years ago) link

well theyre a measure of lighting food on fire so in the that sense that they have made a fire theyre real

lag∞n, Monday, 2 November 2015 23:05 (eight years ago) link

i can't count them for more than 2 days i am too lazy/cook a lot

#amazing #babies #touching (harbl), Monday, 2 November 2015 23:07 (eight years ago) link

A friend told me about some trainer he worked with who said you should go through periods of building muscle and then periods of "shrinkwrapping" the muscle (i.e. losing fat). IDK how well that actually works -- wouldn't the "shrinkwrapping" periods also result in muscle loss? There seems to be so much folk wisdom in personal training and fitness generally that I don't know what to believe sometimes.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 04:18 (eight years ago) link

i think if the goal is to "get stronger" or "get faster" or "get better at X sporting activity" then there's more actual, vetted data out there

if it's to "get bigger" or "get shredded" or "look better naked" then yeah i think there's a lot more folk wisdom

jason waterfalls (gbx), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 12:15 (eight years ago) link

cleaned 255# yesterday!

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 13:55 (eight years ago) link

damn, nice

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 15:03 (eight years ago) link

gbx that distinction is interesting to me. don't quite know what to say about it. sometimes i feel a little crazy for liking the bodybuilding side of things so much but the more objective 'lift x', 'run x' goals tend to ground me.

mattresslessness, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 15:45 (eight years ago) link

i spend an hour making breakfast and packing food every weekday morning

thank you for giving me one more reason to double down on the unsw0le life

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 15:54 (eight years ago) link

i like the routine.

mattresslessness, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 16:37 (eight years ago) link

yeah i totally know what you're saying. without a routine it's easy for me to just say fuck it.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 16:48 (eight years ago) link

cleaned 255# yesterday!

― (•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, November 3, 2015 7:55 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

dog this is nuts

goole, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 16:54 (eight years ago) link

the only way I could clean 255# right now is with a damp cloth ;_;

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 16:55 (eight years ago) link

lol keep in mind this is a oly style squat clean so a lot is predicated on technique more than just strength. I would not be able to power clean that without getting under it.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 17:01 (eight years ago) link

I can't front squat half of that so I am very impressed.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 17:48 (eight years ago) link

lol so today is the last time I do weighted box jumps not feeling 100% -- slipped and gashed the side of my head on the corner of another box. I was fine but there was blood everywhere, pretty awesome. Clinic literally next door to the gym, two staples and out.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 20:06 (eight years ago) link

o man!

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 20:07 (eight years ago) link

i kinda want to start doing olympic lifts but like is there really any point ir is it just an injury vector

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 20:09 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, daughter was sick, felt like I might have a touch of it, but I had gotten through my chest workout ok so I thought I was fine. Guess not.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 20:10 (eight years ago) link

It was kind of fun to walk around in a bloodstained white tee for a little while though.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 20:11 (eight years ago) link

definitely not too into the idea of learning Olympic lifts given my slightly klutzy history.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 20:14 (eight years ago) link

i can clean ok from youtube and practice. i'd like to be able to snatch but afraid to try on my own. the point is they look cool afaic.

mattresslessness, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 20:15 (eight years ago) link

i have been tempted by the powerclean, out of boredom, basically

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 20:16 (eight years ago) link

it's fun, i feel like it's good for "linebacker neck"

mattresslessness, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 20:20 (eight years ago) link

lol that'll be the day

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 20:21 (eight years ago) link

not too good at "the drop" though. i wish there was just a small class or something i could take once, get introduced to the basics, maybe find the right trainer for a session or two.

xp try it!

mattresslessness, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 20:25 (eight years ago) link

yeah i think it'd be cool to work those in but i really feel like one should be trained in them.

goole, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 20:26 (eight years ago) link

carne asada teach us how to do oly lifts thru text ;)

mattresslessness, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 20:27 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, for all my talk of working through being sick I have taken this week off after being unable to inhale on the 45 degree leg press because of dumb cold/flu.

Three Word Username, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 20:31 (eight years ago) link

i think there might be some sort of oly lift class/crew at my gym there were a bunch of ppl doing them around this crossfit looking structure the other day

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 20:49 (eight years ago) link

wish someone would take the cool stuff about crossfit and do it cheaper and safer.

I know when that Ott line zings (Spottie), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 20:51 (eight years ago) link

yeah

mattresslessness, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 21:03 (eight years ago) link

feel like this is happening, like i said there is a crossfit inspired structure at my gym, and an oly lifting area, and one of those big tires lol

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 21:13 (eight years ago) link

i just want to do the rope arm up and down thing and my gym doesn't have it :(

I know when that Ott line zings (Spottie), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 21:15 (eight years ago) link

or the other stuff.

I know when that Ott line zings (Spottie), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 21:15 (eight years ago) link

ha they have the ropes and also attached to that structure are those straps w handles on them where u pull yr self up and down from a leaning to upright, i tried to get someone to explain to me what was good abt the ropes once lol

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 21:17 (eight years ago) link

the tire thing is funny

my gym is too small for that stuff - we have this little area called "UXF" which I think is some bobo brand of crossfit. It has a big swingset frame-like structure with some trx straps, kettlebells, boxes (like the one I hit my head on today) and a set of those battle ropes, although no one ever uses the ropes because it's too crowded. I do like using the trx straps sometimes fwiw, feels like it works the muscles differently to have that extra stability element.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 21:18 (eight years ago) link

the ropes probs don't do much but they are used in every commercial showing people getting fit now so i feel like they need to be a part of my life

I know when that Ott line zings (Spottie), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 21:21 (eight years ago) link


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